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Yorkshire housewife 'raised by monkeys in jungle'
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | 10/21/12

Posted on 10/21/2012 3:43:27 AM PDT by markomalley

The story of a Yorkshire housewife who spent five years in her childhood living with a colony of capuchin monkeys in Colombia is to be told for the first time in a book and planned television documentary.

Marina Chapman learnt to catch birds and rabbits with her bare hands after being abandoned in the jungle by kidnappers, it was reported.

The Tarzan-like episode was brought to an end when she was discovered by hunters but by her ordeal continued when she was sold to a brothel in the city of Cucuta, and groomed for prostitution.

She escaped and spent years on the streets, sometimes being arrested and kept in a cell, but was eventually taken in by a Colombian family to work as a maid in her mid-teens, and took the name of Marina Luz, according to the account given to a newspaper.

Later during her mid-twenties she travelled with a neighbouring family who went to stay in Bradford on business for six months - and stayed after she met John Chapman, then a 29-year-old bacteriologist, at a church meeting. They married in 1977.

She and her family have now decided to tell her story to help highlight the horrors of human trafficking in South America.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: marinachapman; monkeys; napl

1 posted on 10/21/2012 3:43:32 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

That’s quite a story


2 posted on 10/21/2012 3:48:55 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: markomalley

Well, I’ll be a monkeys Uncle...


3 posted on 10/21/2012 4:30:26 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: markomalley

Gona call bs


4 posted on 10/21/2012 4:38:31 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: markomalley

I bet her grand kids call her Nana.


5 posted on 10/21/2012 4:40:17 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: markomalley

BS....She says (age 5)....all she remembers is a hand over her mouth and being chloroformed....yeh....every 5 year old knows how that works...


6 posted on 10/21/2012 4:42:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: markomalley

Questionable - I don’t see how she could not know some things.
1. at 5 years old (in the mid 60’s) I knew my name and birthdate.
2. I was taught as a very small child to go to authorities if I need help, so when she escaped or any time after why did she not reach out to some sort of police or help service.
3. I’d been hugely traumatized as she likely was. How is it she’s just the average mom now telling bedtime stories - I would need a a lot of mental gymnasitcis to get from kidnapped to jungle to almost prostitute to house maid etc to well adjusted mom......
just a few of my thoughts on why this is questionable story.


7 posted on 10/21/2012 5:12:02 AM PDT by freeB
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To: BigCinBigD
Well, I’ll be a monkeys Uncle...

Well, maybe Auntie

8 posted on 10/21/2012 5:30:22 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Sacajaweau

I agree about it being BS. I’m sure the media will dig in to find out if it’s BS or not.


9 posted on 10/21/2012 5:31:30 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: DainBramage; Jeremiah Jr
I bet her grand kids call her Nana.

You just had to slip that one in. lol

10 posted on 10/21/2012 5:36:59 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: markomalley
You would think that if they were going to sell a BS story like this, they would have at least included a photo of capuchin monkeys, instead of Gibbons.
11 posted on 10/21/2012 5:39:31 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: freeB

Hard to swallow.

If you ever study child development (like in a University) you soon learn that there are specific times and sequences that have to happen well, basically in the correct order and at the proper time.

Language development is one of them. Google Piaget.

AFAIK, all the other verified examples of feral children, none of them ever attained anything approaching even average language skills.


12 posted on 10/21/2012 5:40:56 AM PDT by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: djf
AFAIK, all the other verified examples of feral children,
none of them ever attained anything approaching even
average language skills.

she was kidnapped when she was five
before being abandoned in the jungle.

The typical 4-year-old child will have about a
1,500–1,600-word vocabulary.

It is likely she had a fully functional language capability
at the time she was abducted

13 posted on 10/21/2012 6:03:13 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: freeB
1. at 5 years old (in the mid 60’s) I knew my name and birthdate.

If, at age 5, you had been wrested from your usual environment and subjected to an ordeal comparable to hers, I'm sure that, after only a few months, you would have forgotten most of those "factual memories." At that age, the brain is still very plastic. Without occasionally "refreshing," such dry factual information will be quickly sublimated and, eventually, deleted.

Not saying that I believe her story - on the contrary: She ought to have absolutely no memory of the circumstances of her initial abduction.

Regards,

14 posted on 10/21/2012 6:13:47 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: HangnJudge

Oh, OK, I guess I misread the timeline, I thought she was raised from near birth until she was 5 in the wild. then she was discovered.

In that case, I suppose it’s possible.


15 posted on 10/21/2012 6:16:26 AM PDT by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: markomalley

I wonder if you had to pay extra for time with the monkey girl? Yes, not a politically correct question—but one many want ask. I am their Lorax.


16 posted on 10/21/2012 6:28:55 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (MIf you are a white conservative, you MUST be a racist. ;-))
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To: Ezekiel

Sometimes I cant help myself.


17 posted on 10/21/2012 6:54:43 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: jsanders2001
Naw....It sells....

Someone could probably blow this wide open if it gets advertised enough.

Many years ago, there was a Vincent Price movie...The Baron of Arizona...Price groomed a little girl to be Spanish Royalty who claimed the State. He even went so far as to join the monkhood to alter some documents.

Then the sh** hit the fan...someone called it a forgery but couldn't prove it...but that wasn't all....

there was a man who knew the girl when she was little and he knew her father was not Spanish...but black....

A great old movie...Price at his best!!

18 posted on 10/21/2012 7:04:30 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: markomalley

I’d like to see her ‘groom’ the kids! heheheh...


19 posted on 10/21/2012 7:21:50 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: Sacajaweau

They later remade that story as the life of Barack Obama...


20 posted on 10/21/2012 7:23:18 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: markomalley

Hard to believe.


21 posted on 10/21/2012 7:34:30 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: jsanders2001
Let's do a little DNA....Oops....we might find out that she's related to a scammer...

Why did she wait until AFTER her marriage to tell hubby...

Ahhhhhh.....hubby is part of this scam....

22 posted on 10/21/2012 7:37:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: DainBramage

***I bet her grand kids call her Nana.***

http://www.lyrics007.com/Roy%20Drusky%20Lyrics/Peel%20Me%20A%20Nanner%20Lyrics.html

There I was in all of my innocence
Lovin’ you with all of my might
Come to find I didn’t have any sense
You had a different darlin’ every night

Peel me a ‘nana, toss me a peanut
I’ll come swingin’ from a coconut tree
Peel me a ‘na-ana, toss me a peanut
You sure made a monkey out of me


23 posted on 10/21/2012 7:59:46 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ezekiel; DainBramage; Jeremiah Jr
I bet her grand kids call her Nana.

You just had to slip that one in. lol

I dunno, I thought it was pretty ap-peel-ing :-)

24 posted on 10/21/2012 10:46:23 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: markomalley

Mickey,Mike & Peter are had to let her go after Davey passed.


25 posted on 10/21/2012 11:11:07 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (No matter who you elect,the government eventually gets in.)
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To: markomalley; Slings and Arrows
"Touch my monkey! Touch it!!" ping.

 

Monkeys raised me in the jungle, says mum - The Sun -News

 Marina Chapman

Wild thing ... Marina Chapman

 

 

Vanessa says her mum brought them up in an unusual way. She said: “When we wanted food, we’d have to make noises.”

 

I'm hoping that mum didn't teach the kiddies restroom etiquette of the sort that's legendary among monkeys.  No, I won't get more specific.  This is a family website.

26 posted on 10/21/2012 8:15:45 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Stoat; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...
It's possible that Mrs Chapman genuinely believes the monkey story - childhood memories are quite malleable. As to whether it actually happened...

BS Flag


27 posted on 10/21/2012 8:25:21 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Can we let the poor thing be happy w/her illusions/delusions?


28 posted on 10/21/2012 8:35:03 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: Silentgypsy

I doubt she’s a freeper, so it’s extremely unlikely she’ll see my comment. There are a couple of problems with her living in a fantasy world, though.

First problem is that delusions are, well, delusional. Denying reality is a good way to end up hurt, or worse.

Second problem is that she’s making herself a spokesperson for an admittedly worthy cause based on those delusions. If they’re found to be untrue, her cause could be hurt.


29 posted on 10/21/2012 8:51:24 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: markomalley

30 posted on 10/21/2012 9:00:22 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

I have never seen such hairy legs on a woman.


31 posted on 10/21/2012 9:07:47 PM PDT by Eva (Obama and Hillary lied, Americans diedI)
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To: Slings and Arrows

OK. You’re correct.


32 posted on 10/21/2012 10:43:41 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: Eva

On the other hand, she looks damn good for a monkey.


33 posted on 10/21/2012 11:14:42 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

There have been documented cases of children being raised by wild animals, including other types of monkeys, but they’ve always been corroborated by some form of official or scientific paper trail after they’ve been brought out of the wild. For someone to just say “this happened to me 57 years ago” with the only flimsy corroboration coming from family members who cite odd behaviors is simply not enough. On top of that, for the simultaneous, breathtaking coincidence that she has a television and book deal inked is just more than what thoughtful people should be asked to believe.

I’ve looked over several articles on this and NONE of them cite police, medical, or other Governmental documentation of this matter. This is not alleged to have occurred in 1850; this supposedly happened around 57 years ago when even in third-world countries they still had a basic semblance of documenting such things.

My suspicion is that she does indeed believe this as you say and it may possibly be her psychological defense mechanism for dealing with mental trauma....such as being sold into prostitution at a very young age. It may be that there’s a part of her life that she needed to ‘erase’ in order to remain sane, and this ‘raised by monkeys’ construct has taken it’s place. Just a guess of course, and only one possibility among many.


34 posted on 10/21/2012 11:34:28 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: markomalley

35 posted on 10/21/2012 11:58:56 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: alexander_busek

I have very clear memories of several things that happened, and a few nightmares, when I was three years old.


36 posted on 10/22/2012 2:58:57 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: freeB

I was taught as a very small child to go to authorities if I need help, so when she escaped or any time after why did she not reach out to some sort of police or help service......Not in South America you don’t (or SE Asia for that matter).


37 posted on 10/22/2012 3:17:39 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: markomalley

As if one could just come on FR and claim to be raised by monkeys.


38 posted on 10/22/2012 3:28:14 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Stoat

Apt summary. You can sympathize with the hell she’s been through, but you can’t live in it.


39 posted on 10/22/2012 5:57:01 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: HangnJudge

she was kidnapped when she was five
before being abandoned in the jungle.

The typical 4-year-old child will have about a
1,500–1,600-word vocabulary.

It is likely she had a fully functional language capability
at the time she was abducted


She speaks well, but she has a tendency of throwing her poop when agitated.


40 posted on 10/22/2012 4:59:15 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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