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Prehistoric 'Kennewick Man' Was All Beefcake
NPR.org ^ | 10-21-2012 | Anna King

Posted on 10/21/2012 2:59:58 PM PDT by Renfield

For nearly a decade, scientists and Northwest tribes in Washington state fought bitterly over whether to bury or study the 9,500-year-old bones known as Kennewick Man. Scientists won the battle, and now, after years of careful examination, they're releasing some of their findings.

For starters, Kennewick Man was buff. I mean, really beefcake. So says Doug Owsley, head of physical anthropology at the Smithsonian's National Museum of Natural History, and the man who led the study of the ancient remains.

Owsley can read the bones like we might read a book. He looks for ridge lines that indicate which muscles Kennewick Man used the most, and what he was doing with them. First off? He had muscular legs like a soccer player — likely from running, trudging and hunting....

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: anthropology; archaeology; godsgravesglyphs; kennewick; kennewickman; paleoamericans

Forensic artists think this is what Kennewick Man looked like.

Brittney Tatchell/Courtesy of Doug Owsley

1 posted on 10/21/2012 3:00:06 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


2 posted on 10/21/2012 3:00:34 PM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

Very Italian features


3 posted on 10/21/2012 3:03:13 PM PDT by tsowellfan (KEEP WORKING like we are 10 POINTS DOWN!!!!)
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To: Renfield

Rosa DeLauro

4 posted on 10/21/2012 3:06:06 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Renfield

I’d run to if I was number 13 in the food chain!


5 posted on 10/21/2012 3:07:48 PM PDT by donozark (I was a Vietnam Veteran before it was popular...)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

my eyes! my eyes!


6 posted on 10/21/2012 3:07:50 PM PDT by brivette
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

What...is...that? Make it go away!


7 posted on 10/21/2012 3:09:02 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
She & Margaret Hamilton separated at birth?


8 posted on 10/21/2012 3:10:41 PM PDT by carriage_hill (The 0bummer Penguin & Bidet Joker: We played this country like a harp from hell.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

LOL!


9 posted on 10/21/2012 3:15:46 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Get the transcript Candy! - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Renfield

This article reminds me of Bill Clinton lusting after a mummy of a teenage girl.


10 posted on 10/21/2012 3:18:35 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Renfield

Whoops! Doesn’t look very Indian to me. No wonder the Indians wanted him. They wanted to cremate him and have him gone forever. He’s an inconvenient truth for the Indians.


11 posted on 10/21/2012 3:20:20 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Renfield

12 posted on 10/21/2012 3:20:45 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: blueunicorn6

I’ve thought that all along. Any proof that the Solutrian migration from southern Spain might have occurred 30 to 50 thousand years before their ancestors would certainly ruin their “claim” on the continent.


13 posted on 10/21/2012 3:29:20 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Renfield

Leave it to NPR to label K man as “ASIAN” in features. The DNA said European. In addition, his reconstruction (face) looks more like northern seafarer types.

Why does it matter?

For years, there has been *silence* about this guys’s DNA results. WHY?

Because at 9,000 years, the “story” of native americans being, well, the natives is in jeopardy. So (if you believe in the native story) who IS the native? What does it really mean to be a native at all? Mayeb the “native” americans decimated the preceeding people, as well (I would guess that, as that’s the normal state of affairs in tribal communities).

There are ALL sorts of problems with the FACTs that K man brings to us.

Currently, the “out of africa” theory is about to be discarded (teetering on the edge).


14 posted on 10/21/2012 3:45:02 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: Renfield

I think he should have red hair, same as the Spirit Cave Man. They look very much alike.

http://www.cabrillo.edu/~crsmith/spiritman.html


15 posted on 10/21/2012 4:00:11 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Renfield

The facial hair “reconstruction” is hilarious.

The facial reconstruction accuracy is debatable, but they have exactly zero evidence whether he had facial hair or what it looked like.


16 posted on 10/21/2012 4:10:32 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Renfield
(he) got hit on the head a few times and was stabbed with a basalt rock point that got stuck in his hip.

Another nail in the coffin of the ludicrous notion of the "peaceful matriarchal hunter-gatherers."

Jean Auel will be very upset.

17 posted on 10/21/2012 4:13:23 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Renfield
No!

The Kenniwick looked like Picard.
The Spirit Cave man looked like Kirk.

Thus began the eternal argument!

Kirk better then Picard?
Picard better then Kirk?

18 posted on 10/21/2012 4:19:29 PM PDT by Reily (l)
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To: Renfield

Article says he lived on the coast because evidence shows he ate marine mammals like seals.

We have salmon eating seals in that area of the Columbia River.


19 posted on 10/21/2012 4:33:33 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Renfield

The Dude Abides.


20 posted on 10/21/2012 4:40:20 PM PDT by HBAR223
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

DONT EVER DO THAT AGAIN!! YOUVE BEEN WARNED.


21 posted on 10/21/2012 4:57:40 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: HBAR223

22 posted on 10/21/2012 5:14:03 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Renfield

Obviously Asian, and strangely, some people are really bothered by that. Get over it. American Indians do—well, at least those who aren’t steeped in the political correctness of our western states. Oh...and many oriental Asians freak on the fact, too. ...can’t accept that we part-barbarians might have come from their oh-so-civilized neighborhood.


23 posted on 10/21/2012 5:28:00 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: familyop

I may be wrong but I think asian and american indians had very little facial hair. Although my brother in law, Scilian countn’t grow a beard or mustache. But had a great amount of hair on his head, thick and black and hard to get rid of bed head...he wore a silk stocking for a cap at night to keep his hair from getting too bed headdy....great guy, passed away in his 70’s without any grey hair..


24 posted on 10/21/2012 5:48:44 PM PDT by goat granny (.)
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To: Renfield

So Kennewick Man was Jerry Garcia?


25 posted on 10/21/2012 6:03:18 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Jean Auel will be very upset.”

Johnny Cash would feel vindicated. “He pulled out a knife and cut off a piece of my ear ...”


26 posted on 10/21/2012 10:30:34 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


27 posted on 10/22/2012 3:36:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


28 posted on 10/22/2012 3:37:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Renfield

I saw this guy at Sturgis.


29 posted on 10/22/2012 3:54:10 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: familyop

I’m not entirely certain that the epicanthal folds and skin tone that has you saying “obviously Asian” isn’t just a fanciful, PC inclusion. DNA says otherwise. That’s why people are bothered.

On the one side, we have the claim of native tribes jeopardized. On the other, caucasians who have been somewhat embattled by diversity efforts over the past three or four decades find it more than a little ironic.


30 posted on 10/22/2012 3:55:14 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Renfield

31 posted on 10/22/2012 4:13:23 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: thefactor

Anthro-ping...


32 posted on 10/22/2012 5:02:36 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Cold Heart

Must be some huge salmon if they can eat a seal.


33 posted on 10/22/2012 5:18:30 AM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: csmusaret

You got me:) Wounded but not mortal:)

Since the seals seasonally follow the huge salmon up river, I’m guessing Ken followed the seals. Locals thought he was trying to set up a casino and stuck a spear in his hip.
The local indians harass white bow hunters to this day.
(The bows are not white)

Ken’s strong right arm was from pulling the one armed bandit. A second possibility is from throwing large spears at seals


34 posted on 10/22/2012 7:37:23 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart

(The bows are not white)

You got me:) Wounded but not mortal:)

Good one....P.S. I have been to Bonneville Dam and seen the seals and the salmon. I have also been below the locks in Oregon City— saw lots of seals and lots of salmon fishermen.


35 posted on 10/22/2012 8:23:19 AM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: Renfield

Reminds me of that unique Japanese aboriginal group - Okinawa? They look different from the other Japanese in facial hair and nose type. I was watching a youtube video on Okinawans and saw them moving through tidal waters to cast nets for fishing. Their stride was short and they had considerable resistance from the tide. Could that account for the leg muscles?


36 posted on 10/22/2012 10:28:16 AM PDT by marsh2
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I think you're thinking of the Ainu (remnant on Hokkaido, not Okinawa).

Kennewick man was described as being Ainu-like years ago, by the anthropologist who first examined his remains.

37 posted on 10/22/2012 12:09:07 PM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

yes..those are the people!


38 posted on 10/22/2012 2:17:07 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: marsh2

Some of the photos are even reminiscent of Australian Aboriginies in the nose, etc.


39 posted on 10/22/2012 2:20:20 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: familyop

Yeah, they just can’t take deivery of the idea that this guy was not European.

Nobody who’s studied him (including the original anthropologist who misidentified him) has called him european. There is no DNA and the physical features resemble most closely Asian populations like the Aniu, Jomon & Polynesians.


40 posted on 10/22/2012 5:19:03 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Renfield

41 posted on 10/22/2012 5:25:07 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: Varda

Exactly. Regarding “Ainu,” for anyone who’s been around Inuit folks,... It’s also funny, watching movies with settings in Medieval China. “Look Ma! The Injuns are comin’!” Frozen remains of redheads have also been discovered in many sites from the Gobi to northern Siberia, and from there, along the south of Russia to western Europe.

I don’t have any problem with any of that or other discoveries about races. Those of us who guess at the number of generations before us tend to realize something important about ourselves. We each make our individual identity.

I’m an American. “Prehistoric “Kennewick Man’” was also what he made of himself. As for making racial discoveries about ancient people, folks can chase their own tales, if they want to (spelling intentional). Most of the ancients cared more about nationalities and religions than races.


42 posted on 10/22/2012 5:50:33 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: goat granny
"I may be wrong but I think asian and american indians had very little facial hair. Although my brother in law, Scilian countn’t grow a beard or mustache. But had a great amount of hair on his head, thick and black and hard to get rid of bed head...he wore a silk stocking for a cap at night to keep his hair from getting too bed headdy....great guy, passed away in his 70’s without any grey hair.."

Sorry I didn't reply sooner, but this is the busiest time before winter here. Also quit smoking and have the temporary short attention span.

Anyway, Sicily was a busy world trading port for so long, it had something in common with our contemporary USA. As with Sicilians, many of we Americans are mutts. And we know that mutts rule, eh? ;-) To our health (although I hardly ever drink at all)!

As for Indians, I'm not sure. Maybe some didn't grow much facial hair. But you know, like Asians, many of them plucked it out or shaved it off. :-) Little story about some American Indians in northeastern early America. They were taller Indians. They found a little boy who'd gotten lost from a nearby colony.

They couldn't find his parents and adopted him. He spent most of his days out in the sun, like his tribe and nation. When he was beginning to come of age, they plucked all of the hair from his head except for the designated topknot spot near his crown. He became a young man and warrior of his adoptive people. Later, he was reintroduced to the people of the colony that he originated from.

Voila. Surprise. ;-)

Just imagine...if we each could get information on every single generation in our heritage before us...in all of history, from the Beginning. Whole lotta heritage there, no?


43 posted on 10/26/2012 3:58:47 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop
I once asked him the difference between a Sicilian and Italian. I would get permanently banned if I told you what he said....LOLgood luck on not smoking and no need to answer, concentrate on being a non-smoker. GG
44 posted on 10/26/2012 5:28:53 PM PDT by goat granny (.)
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