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ObamaCare's Death Panel target WWII vets
vanity | October 22, 2012 | Linda Martinez

Posted on 10/22/2012 10:19:05 AM PDT by eccentric

According to my cousin, her father does not meet the ObamaCare requirements to receive supplied oxygen. He has been using the oxygen for several years, and now they expect him to just stop. My Uncle is a WWII hero, his name listed in the book "The Forgotten 500." He recently took one of the honor flights to DC. I guess these guys aren't dying off fast enough for Obama.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; obamacare; veterans; wwii
I guess he could still get the oxygen, but ObamaCare won't pay for it. How much does it cost?
1 posted on 10/22/2012 10:19:09 AM PDT by eccentric
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To: eccentric
I guess these guys aren't dying off fast enough for Obama.

Yes Obamacare adopted Gen. MacArthur's "old soldiers" to a more general "Old people never die, they just get in the way."

2 posted on 10/22/2012 10:23:24 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: eccentric

People like Obama see old people as mostly politically troublesome white folks. Of course they’d like to get rid of them.


3 posted on 10/22/2012 10:26:06 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: eccentric

I am so sorry. Hopefully you can find a group to help or the family just shares the cost.
It is not surprising, medicare has already started denying prescriptions for medically necessary meds.


4 posted on 10/22/2012 10:29:21 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: eccentric

Is this the VA denying this???


5 posted on 10/22/2012 10:29:47 AM PDT by radioone ( Main Stream Media. The Government built that.)
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To: svcw

I have a friend who has taken a prescription medication for a couple of years. He was just told that he is now too old and either medicare or his insurance (not sure which, he has both) will not pay for it.


6 posted on 10/22/2012 10:33:14 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: svcw

I have a friend who has taken a prescription medication for a couple of years. He was just told that he is now too old and either medicare or his insurance (not sure which, he has both) will not pay for it.


7 posted on 10/22/2012 10:33:22 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: radioone

The VA is the source of the term “Death Panel”, because they had what they call the “Death Book” before Sarah Palin was even known.


8 posted on 10/22/2012 10:36:50 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: eccentric

Obama wants people to forget the principles of the Greatest Generation. Sacrifice and self responsibility are anathema to Obama’s marxist principles.


9 posted on 10/22/2012 10:38:11 AM PDT by monocle
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To: eccentric

here is a little secret the doctors will not tell you....

industrial grade oxygen has a higher standard of purity to meet than hospital grade...

head on down to your local welding supply store, buy a small cylinder, and then you can just exchange them for full ones, kinda like propane..

better quality at about half the price ( of course the cylinders will not be painted very pretty )...


10 posted on 10/22/2012 10:39:50 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: eccentric

Many people don’t believe that this kind of thing will ever happen. It IS happening.


11 posted on 10/22/2012 10:43:04 AM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: skeeter

“People like Obama see old people as mostly politically troublesome white folks. Of course they’d like to get rid of them.”

The advantages to the liberal state of eliminating old people are:

1) Reduces social security and medicare payments
2) Reduces population of conservative voters
3) Assets can be seized for the state through confiscatory estate taxes
4) Reduces human population on the planet thereby reducing global warming and resource depletion.
5) Eliminates influence of older generation on shaping values of young people.


12 posted on 10/22/2012 10:43:31 AM PDT by Soul of the South
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To: Soul of the South

I’d say that represents somewhat of a conflict of interests, wouldn’t you?


13 posted on 10/22/2012 10:47:23 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: ladyjane

Yep.
Probably medicare.
When I had private insurance they paid the synthetic drug cost and I picked up the difference. I have a weird thyroid issue and synthetics don’t work.
I found that fair based on the explanation.
When I was forced off my private plan and onto medicare, they said they would pay nothing. I called and argued with them about it, and they said they would would for six months, after that I needed to change the meds. My doctor wrote a letter of explanation - nope.
I feel for your friend, fortunately places like Sam’s Club, WalMart or Target have very low perception costs.


14 posted on 10/22/2012 10:52:41 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: eccentric

My father’s 89 y/o and a WWII and Korean war vet, Viet Nam era vet. Medicare wouldn’t pay for his oxygen and the supplier took it back. Doctors in Florida have been telling us for at least a year now we were being treated under Obamacare regulations. Based on what I’ve seen, Obamacare is genocide for the elderly and the chronically ill.


15 posted on 10/22/2012 11:09:43 AM PDT by Mari2525
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To: skeeter
As things are going this week I suspect that Sleazy Obama would take as many Old Fogy Democrat votes as he could get.
16 posted on 10/22/2012 11:41:03 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: joe fonebone

I would be very hesitant to offer that advice, because of the potential of contamination, if not from the tank then from the lubricant and who knows what all else. While the oxygen might be pure, it might not be dry, and the moisture could be serious bad karma.


17 posted on 10/22/2012 11:41:08 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: eccentric

As an aside, you can now get fairly inexpensive ($200-500) portable oxygen concentrator units that, while they don’t give pure oxygen, increase the amount of oxygen in the inhaled air.


18 posted on 10/22/2012 11:45:13 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: eccentric

If a doctor authorized the Oxygen and it was not approved by the government you should have gotten a letter. I would scan that docuement and publish it all over the internet...


19 posted on 10/22/2012 11:46:31 AM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: Mari2525
You actually mean that you didn't know that ObamaCare is not for old folks. I did a few in WWII and never have asked our government for anything, so far.
20 posted on 10/22/2012 11:51:05 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

the reason for industrial grade being more pure is the risk of explosion in an industrial setting is higher... there are no lubricants used in industrial grade, and they are filled the same way...

just buy yourself a tank, and if you are hesitant about exchange, have your tank refilled... hell you could probably get your medical tank refilled at the weld supply store..

and it is drier than medical grade...

industrial grade is better quality than medical grade...it has to be ( you can check this out for yourself )


21 posted on 10/22/2012 11:51:22 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: monocle

Cutting Off Oxygen to Patriots was on Page 2137 of the bill.

Of course, you had to pass it to know it was in there.


22 posted on 10/22/2012 11:52:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: eccentric

I called into Rush’s show last January when it was nonstop Romney bashing to say that Romneycare was not the same as 0bamacare, that the sole thing they had in common was the individual mandate, and that 0bamacare was simply a “kinder, gentler Auschwitz.” Romney’s plan was not about denying care and 0bama’s is. 0bama will give you hospice and pain meds but no treatment.


23 posted on 10/22/2012 12:23:29 PM PDT by HateBill (Too productive for Obama's America)
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To: joe fonebone

If that’s the case, then great. I just have a “thing” about compressed gases, having seen some truly impressive scenes of what can happen when things go bad.

Oxygen can be some scary stuff.

As a ha-ha, here is a hilariously out of date US Navy training film about liquid oxygen. A little graphic at times, but mostly bizarre. “Man from LOX”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9sIT6P_05I


24 posted on 10/22/2012 2:12:28 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: ANGGAPO

I have been the guardian for one or both of my parents for 11 years. Believe me, I know first hand what Obamacare is. I’ve never been fooled by it.


25 posted on 10/22/2012 3:20:44 PM PDT by Mari2525
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To: skeeter

If one has a melanometric or Muslim dispensation; well, no problem!


26 posted on 10/23/2012 1:20:08 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

most fire stations and ems units get their tanks filled at the nearest weld supply store.

check the pricing.

the fda lists medical oxygen as a drug (can you believe this) which is why the paperwork and stuff makes the cost higher.

while medical oxygen is 99% pure, industrial has to be at least 99.5% pure.

the only stuff that has different crap done to it is avaition grade oxygen. This crap has to be dry, dry, dry.


27 posted on 10/23/2012 4:19:38 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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