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'Walking Dead' Drops Liberal Platitudes, Goes Conservative
Big-Hollywood ^ | 22 Oct 2012, 11:16 AM PDT | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 10/22/2012 3:00:11 PM PDT by djone

"We are only two episodes into the new season, and it appears that AMC's "The Walking Dead" may have been resurrected after last year’s mostly craptacular second season, which was preceded by a pretty craptacular first season. And the reason seems to be the conservative outlook that the show has now embraced. Let’s pause for a moment to let the fanatic liberal fanboy virgins fulminate and fret over the notion that their favorite zombie show may have been saved by their characters’ (and the writers’) change – unconscious almost certainly – from a liberal world view to a conservative one.... Let’s understand the difference between a liberal world view and a conservative one. It’s not necessarily about retail politics, though you got some sense of it with the “I don’t believe in guns” crap early on, as if the world wasn’t crawling with cannibal corpses looking to dine on the lesser cast members. And it is not just that the views of the Georgian characters seemed to be the same as the views of the provincial Hollywood screenwriters – country folk are racists and sinister, religious folk are abusive and borderline psycho, and the only good cops are the ones who soft pedal the macho...... other brother

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To: discostu
"People do weird things when they are scared."

This is where the writers go wrong. They know, from hearing stories about real people who were in severe survival situations, that tensions are high and people do desperate things, so they are trying to portray such desperate and weird things in the show. Except that they have their characters doing a whole bunch of things that frightened people would never do. That is because these writers have no idea what kind of weird and desperate things frightened people would actually do.

In a world full of flesh-eating zombies, nobody, and I mean NOBODY would wander off alone. You think fear would make them do this? On the contrary, the fear would make them cling together to almost an irrational level, like a drowning man who grabs onto whomever is near. Safety in numbers is one of the most powerfully instinctive behaviors we have. In a life-and-death situation, that instinct would be so powerful that those people would have a hard time leaving the safety of the group even for a second. Wandering off by one's self would be the farthest thing from a natural reaction to this kind of fear that one could think of, but the writes can't recognize that because they've never experienced anything more harsh than mild disagreements over which wine goes best with fish. They know that SOMETHING us supposed to happen when people fear for their lives, but they don't have a clue what, so they just make up silly stuff - and in this case they blew it.

As far as the gun issue goes, if it were me, anyone in my group would know the basics of using a firearm within the first few days. and, if we had the guns, they would all be carrying. Period. Shooting a gun is not rocket science. It does not require a month-long certification class, nor eight weeks of basic training. You can teach the functional basics in a day. These guys were still arguing over the morality of guns well into the second season, which was weeks, if not months, after the initial outbreak. A good example of this in movies was "Aliens" with Sigourney Weaver. She decides to go after the little girl, and the marine shows her how to use the rifle, grenade launcher, and flares within 30 seconds. Would she be as good as a marine? No, but she can still get the rounds to fly out of the weapon in the right direction.

I want this show to be good. It's zombies for Pete's sake, but the writers have been screwing it up because they don't have a clue about real people, or real survival.
81 posted on 10/23/2012 7:42:03 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

I don’t think it’s that cut and dry. We get stories of people doing just plain odd things in bad situations all the time. How many times when there’s a gun rampage do we get tales of people just standing there doing nothing, or folks fleeing and leaving loved ones behind. Logically the instinct is to act together, but instinct isn’t logical. And it just gets more so in a situation that stays scary a long time, the brain burns out, it doesn’t know how to handle fear that last days and weeks. Eventually people will wander off by themselves, just to not be in the group, long periods of time stuck with the same people make you crave isolation.

And with the guns I think you’re forgetting that they also have to live. They need to get food, clean, find supplies. Also they have a limited supply of ammo (along with everything else) and a strong need to be quiet, noise draws zombies, learning to shoot is noisy. And the problem with arming everybody is the when the incompetent ones screw up guess which people they’ll accidentally shoot, yeah probably the competent ones. Yeah you can learn the basics of shooting in a day, shooting in combat is harder. For me the test is simple, I’d ask myself if I’d trust that person to shoot a zombie that’s 5 feet behind me, if the answer is no they don’t get a gun.

Notice in Aliens she’d already shown herself to be competent in a bad situation. She’s the one that kept her cool in the power station and got them out. Hicks knew she had the mental part down, all she needed was the mechanics.

I think it is a good show, you’re just going in with a set of assumptions which is A- unrealistic and B- not what the writers have. And you can see over the course of the story that they thought about all those things, and decided the group would take a more conservative “let’s teach people first” approach. Which for a group that includes 2 cops, an experienced hunter and eventually a war vet makes sense. These are all people that have had the chance to see what people that shouldn’t have guns can do with them. They even had the discussion “on camera” where Rick and Shane agreed they didn’t want a bunch of untrained people randomly putting lead in the air.

82 posted on 10/24/2012 8:55:07 AM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: jjsheridan5

LOL! In a world without Fox News, it wouldn’t have been as obvious as you put it.

83 posted on 11/25/2012 6:10:27 PM PST by rodeo-mamma
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