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Looking for some help exposing a fraud claiming to be in Beirut in 83
10/23/12 | Abathar

Posted on 10/23/2012 2:25:30 PM PDT by Abathar

Edited on 10/23/2012 2:29:49 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

I was wondering if anyone had information on the Marines who were stationed in Beirut 30 years ago today when it was attacked, perhaps a list of survivors or those who received a metal for valor on that day.

A former employee of mine who left the business about 10 years ago has it on his Facebook page that he was not only there, but received a metal from then President Reagan for heroism. I hired him and worked side by side for 2 years with him, heard all his stories and he never ONCE mentioned this to me. I know he got a dishonorable discharge for desertion when he refused to deploy to the Philippines, but the thing that really gets my goat was we graduated HS both in the class of 83. He told me he was an NBC specialist who mostly ran tear gas testing drills later, but he is so full of [crap] that I want to really blast him for claiming this if it wasn't true, but I won't unless I have some kind of proof.

If anyone knows of any info out there with names of those who served while it was attacked that would be great.

Thanks


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: beirut; marinecorp; marinecorps

1 posted on 10/23/2012 2:25:36 PM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar

If he put on his facebook page that he got a medal, it’s damn near a sure bet he’s a liar.


2 posted on 10/23/2012 2:29:33 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

Contact the 850-member Beirut Veterans of America Organization founded by one of the mothers of a slain Marine, Judy Young

http://www.beirutveterans.org/news.htm


3 posted on 10/23/2012 2:46:13 PM PDT by februus
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To: Abathar

Does he claim to have been in the 24th MEU?


4 posted on 10/23/2012 2:46:43 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Abathar

RecordsBase.com...

Find the name of any US Marine Military Records:

http://www.recordsbase.com/?act=military&fc=93&fck=marine&utm_source=adw&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=military&creativeid=g10176097184&utm_term=list%20of%20marines&group=adw-marines&network=s&site=&ran=1499377651349548828&target=&aceid=&asl=[name]&pos=1t1&mob=&match=b&gclid=CKXI3tSNmLMCFUid4AodzyIA7g


5 posted on 10/23/2012 2:47:23 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Even a Garden Gnome casts a long shadow - "0bummer's a towering figure" - at sunset.)
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To: GeronL

24th MAU:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beirut_Memorial


6 posted on 10/23/2012 2:50:17 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Even a Garden Gnome casts a long shadow - "0bummer's a towering figure" - at sunset.)
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To: RaceBannon

Ping


7 posted on 10/23/2012 2:59:54 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: RaceBannon

Ping


8 posted on 10/23/2012 3:01:01 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Abathar

Please report back if you are able to nail this guy.


9 posted on 10/23/2012 3:08:17 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: DesertRhino
If he put on his facebook page that he got a medal, it’s damn near a sure bet he’s a liar.

This is so very true. Real heroes generally do not like to discuss these things. Look at John F'ing Kerry as an anti-pattern. Try talking to most WWII vet and try to pry a story out of them. I have a great uncle who served on Iwo Jima and he never talks about his service. I have actually found our more about his service by researching genealogy on the Internet than he has told me personally.

10 posted on 10/23/2012 3:11:17 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The truth hurts)
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To: Abathar
"I know he got a dishonorable discharge for desertion when he refused to deploy to the Philippines You hired a guy with a DD? A felony? You must be a very good friend; why would he lie to a very good friend? TC
11 posted on 10/23/2012 3:15:59 PM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: Abathar

I don’t mean to sound like the spelling police but it is “medal,” not “metal.”

The first one I figured was a typo but then it appeared again as “metal.”

Now that we have that out of the way — I hope you nail him.


12 posted on 10/23/2012 3:28:53 PM PDT by FerociousRabbit
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To: Abathar
I served in the Navy Phibgru that supported 24th MAU. (I was on the U.S.S. Austin LPD-4).

We were relieved in November 1983 by the 22nd MAU, which had been delayed in arriving because they participated in the invasion of Grenada. That was the last MAU to be part of the Multinational Peacekeeping Force.

So this guy who graduated HS in '83 would have had to get through boot camp and all of his additional training (I was a squid so I don't know what all that would be, but if he was an "NBC specialist" there had to be some) in time to depart Morehead City NC in October. That's a tight window; somebody who was a Marine in those days would have to say if it's truly possible.

13 posted on 10/23/2012 3:42:16 PM PDT by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: Abathar

freep mail me the info, I have friends....


14 posted on 10/23/2012 3:42:48 PM PDT by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: Abathar

I was there and listening to the secure net radio traffic asking around to all units how many body bags they had on hand. The USS New Jersey replied they had 25 body bags in their sick bay. The reply to that was its not nearly enough. Creepy, sad day.


15 posted on 10/23/2012 3:48:14 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Abathar

Ask to see his DD214. It will list all of the medals he was awarded plus confirm his occupation (MOS).


16 posted on 10/23/2012 3:55:28 PM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: central_va

A friend of mine, now deceased, was on the Ricketts (DDG-5) off Beirut in ‘83. He said he and others were helicoptered in after the bombing for rescue/recovery. Said he saw things he didn’t want to see again.


17 posted on 10/23/2012 4:09:46 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Abathar

Folks over at stolen valor could be of help. I’ve worked with these types too. They’re very annoying and usually obvious fakes


18 posted on 10/23/2012 6:49:51 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Abathar

I was there, Abathar. 24th MAU was comprised of BLT 1/8, HMM-162 (Rein) and MSSG-24 (the Ground Combat, Air Combat, and Combat Service Support elements, respectively). Did this guy specify which element he served with?


19 posted on 10/23/2012 8:52:35 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Always A Marine

No he didn’t, but I’m still looking though, I fully intend on busting him.


20 posted on 10/24/2012 5:16:21 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

I ran a check with a local PI before I hired him and he reported back saying he was clean.

I was not amused when he confessed that he had to hide his guns because he wasn’t allowed to have them anymore because he deserted, not at all. He left not long after that and his new wife was friends with my wife, so that is kind of how I got on his Facebook friends list.


21 posted on 10/24/2012 5:23:36 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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