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Pure Vanity: Why Things Have Changed With Blacks and Obama After Tonight
Myself | 10/27/12

Posted on 10/27/2012 10:01:48 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

I just had to come on to FR tonight and post an experience I had this evening in downtown Dallas.

There was a celebration going on with a brand new 5.5 acre park that opened today downtown and there were live bands and fireworks and families and food and drinks...a really nice cold Fall night in Dallas. I would say there was easily 35,000 if not more in attendance.

So what makes tonight so different? Well...it was the communication between black and white families that was taking place. I would hear random conversations coming and going through the night amongst the crowd and we would engage in some of them and here was the fascinating thing that I discovered...blacks have had it with Obama.

I am not talking about what the MSNBC crowd would call "Uncle Tom/Sell Out Blacks" either. I am talking the straight up $10 to $12 an hour wage earners who are not making it at all.

One by one by one by one they either said they were not going to vote because Texas is going Romney anyway and that their families in Arkansas and Louisiana felt the same way. They are not only fiscally worse since Obama took office but they felt that Obama did NOTHING to improve the image of blacks in general.

Read that again.

They felt that Obama did NOTHING to improve the image of blacks in general.

That is pretty powerful stuff.

A large number of really good and hard working folks who were extremely offended by Obama embracing gay marriage, pissing on the military (so many folks have kids in the Army, Navy, and Air Force), and that when he got to the White House he didn't come visit inner cities, that he appointed people who didn't have anything in common with where he claimed he was coming from back in 2008.

My fellow Freepers, I wish you could have seen and heard what I heard tonight with my friends and family. They are staying home. They are not voting period. They were honest that they didn't believe in Romney and said if he does prove that he can turn the economy and jobs situation around and restores our foundation in God back to this country then they will reconsider in 4 years...but as of this year? Barack ain't got their vote and he does not have the vote of their families either.

Common words heard tonight were "He don't care", "He's OK but he ain't gettin' it done", "I am working harder than I ever have and never get to go out and do anything."

The saddest thing was a family of 10..10! Mom and Dad married for 25 years they voted for Reagan, Clinton twice, Gore, Bush, and Obama. They said they have 3 kids who have moved back home now and 2 are getting divorced and they have 2 kids each and that if you asked them 5 years ago if their family and lives would be this destroyed they would never have believed it.

The grandfather/Dad said to me that he owns a lawn/landscaping business and how many people he has had to lay off because people are doing their own lawns more and more now and landscaping is becoming a luxury item even for commercial accounts.

At the end of the day he said everything comes down to the security of having a job and a pay check and his faith and his rights protected and that voting for Obama was a "gesture vote" last time and he won't do it again.

I am just dying to know how many families these stories are being played out in across the nation tonight.

I can say with confidence that Barack Obama is going to lose at least 20 to 25% of the black vote he had last time which can do nothing but put the finishing touches on his epic collapse to come.


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1 posted on 10/27/2012 10:01:58 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache

I hope you are correct.


2 posted on 10/27/2012 10:06:31 PM PDT by BAW (We are the Resistance.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I hope that you’re right. And the TX economy is not that bad, so I can olly imagine how folks in some other states may feel.


3 posted on 10/27/2012 10:10:29 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I had a similar experience on a very small scale. I was out of town on business, and sat down with some people at the reception that was discussing politics.

A black lady about 70 or 75 years old was talking about Obama. She was saying well ok so he got to be elected, and I guess that nice for him, but these people are not entitled. They are not. She repeated this several times.

Then she looked at me and said, “you know what I mean-you grew up knowing you had to work, and that you are not entitled.” She wasn’t happy about the Romney 57% either.

It sounded like she planned to stay home.


4 posted on 10/27/2012 10:12:30 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Take this to the bank: blacks will vote well over 90% for Obama.


5 posted on 10/27/2012 10:14:40 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: My Favorite Headache
Thanks for posting this.

voting for Obama was a "gesture vote" last time and he won't do it again.

I suspect he is not alone.

6 posted on 10/27/2012 10:15:59 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: My Favorite Headache

Very encouraging experience you had!

Could have a real impact in Virginia. Maryland? New Jersey?

Here in Pennsylvania it could depress turnout in Philadelphia.

Wow!


7 posted on 10/27/2012 10:17:51 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: BAW
Well, they voted for this:

African-American jobless rate surges
By Emily Jane Fox @CNNMoney July 6, 2012

The unemployment rate for blacks rose to 14.4% from 13.6% in May, the Labor Department reported Friday. That's a sharp contrast to the white unemployment rate, which stayed put at 7.4%, and the Hispanic rate, which held at 11%.

money.cnn.com

8 posted on 10/27/2012 10:19:59 PM PDT by Daaave ("Listen to them. Children of the night. What music they make.")
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To: LongWayHome
Take this to the bank: blacks will vote well over 90% for Obama.

You missed the point.

Black turnout will be lower this time around.

The percentage of blacks voting for the Marxist is NOT the point.

9 posted on 10/27/2012 10:20:07 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: My Favorite Headache
I am hearing that in Southern California, too. Not necessasarily black voters, but lifelong democrats who voted for Obama in 2008, who have never missed voting in a presidential election, people who are late 50s - early 60s, say they won’t vote for Romney, but they will NOT vote for Obama this time. They are out of work and hurting! They are hungry and getting NO help from Obama.
10 posted on 10/27/2012 10:20:45 PM PDT by buffyt (Abortion is murder. It is not a Choice - It is a Child.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
I am just dying to know how many families these stories are being played out in across the nation tonight.""""....

That is what I am hoping for. It is about time for them to wake up. Thank you for this GREAT uplifting report.

11 posted on 10/27/2012 10:21:41 PM PDT by annieokie (O)
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To: smokingfrog

Sleep with one eye open? There is an OLD phrase...
In the land of the Blind the One Eyed is King


12 posted on 10/27/2012 10:22:26 PM PDT by buffyt (Abortion is murder. It is not a Choice - It is a Child.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

With all due respect, dear FReeper, I’d like to believe you’re right but I just can’t.
Blacks will come out in mobs for Obunghole because he’s black.


13 posted on 10/27/2012 10:23:34 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I would like to see the black democrat vote drop to 60 or even 70%, because frankly, to know that they all vote exactly the same at 96%, creates a creepy feeling in non-blacks, it makes blacks seem remote, separate, unreachable, rigid in a racial way.

Just knowing that 30% of blacks vote non-democrat would change that completely, it would mean that you could not look at people in public and predict how they vote, that you couldn’t already know their politics without ever even speaking to them.


14 posted on 10/27/2012 10:25:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I would like to see the black democrat vote drop to 60 or even 70%, because frankly, to know that they all vote exactly the same at 96%, creates a creepy feeling in non-blacks, it makes blacks seem remote, separate, unreachable, rigid in a racial way.

Just knowing that 30% of blacks vote non-democrat would change that completely, it would mean that you could not look at people in public and predict how they vote, that you couldn’t already know their politics without ever even speaking to them.


15 posted on 10/27/2012 10:25:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

MANY thanks for posting this, for a number of reasons.

The first of which is, it’s uplifting.

I used to think I was bigoted against blacks.

But, I discovered I’m bigoted against “entitlement minded” blacks;

I discovered I’m bigoted against “entitlement minded” whites;

I discovered I’m bigoted against “entitlement minded” people.

(I really just don’t like leftists, socialists, communists or lazy bastards.)


16 posted on 10/27/2012 10:25:14 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: My Favorite Headache; BAW

THINK SQUAD: Chicago blacks say Democrats are “clueless about how mad they’ve made black folk....”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2951245/posts


17 posted on 10/27/2012 10:25:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: LongWayHome

But.. What percentage of blacks will vote? THAT is the question! This article is about apathy.


18 posted on 10/27/2012 10:27:02 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: onyx

I think so too...also think the turnout from college kids is going to be much lower. I base that on conversations with nieces, nephews, friends who have college kids...the kids aren’t feeling it this time. It’s not the “cool thing” to be an Obama voter.


19 posted on 10/27/2012 10:29:25 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: My Favorite Headache

Well, maybe they should quit thinking about how things help “blacks” and worry more about what the commie in chief is doing to Americans.


20 posted on 10/27/2012 10:29:32 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useful idiots.)
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To: onyx

I think so too...also think the turnout from college kids is going to be much lower. I base that on conversations with nieces, nephews, friends who have college kids...the kids aren’t feeling it this time. It’s not the “cool thing” to be an Obama voter.


21 posted on 10/27/2012 10:29:37 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: onyx

We will have to agree to disagree. I expect the black vote to be close to 08. As a matter of fact it’s being reported that blacks are voting in very large numbers in Florida this weekend. I expect Mitt to win, but not because black folks are sitting at home by the millions. Not going to happen.


22 posted on 10/27/2012 10:31:57 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: My Favorite Headache
On the other hand dictators don't lose elections.

23 posted on 10/27/2012 10:33:36 PM PDT by I see my hands (On the other hand.. dictators don't lose elections.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I’m guessing just about the same number of blacks are going to come out in 12 for Obama as they did in 08. I don’t see any great movment away from Obama by black voters.


24 posted on 10/27/2012 10:34:33 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: My Favorite Headache

Maybe more black and less Commie would have helped the one.
I blame his white half.


25 posted on 10/27/2012 10:34:59 PM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: annieokie

And uplifting it was.


26 posted on 10/27/2012 10:37:12 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: greeneyes

I find this entirely plausible. People have a sense of their own importance. Ohio, Iowa, everywhere, people want to believe that they count. And in the case of this Marxist mulatto, blacks everywhere are likely to lay their claim to having ‘made’ him by now withholding their support and taking him down.


27 posted on 10/27/2012 10:37:20 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (Nov. 6, 2012 - And the correct answer is no one is entitled to a bailout.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I feel sorry for those who are suffering but they have to man up and admit their mistakes. Obama represented what they wanted and believed in, bigger government, now they will have to admit that it does not work or they will just repeat it with another demagogue.


28 posted on 10/27/2012 10:43:01 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: LongWayHome

90% of THOSE WHO VOTE. The totals may not be that high.


29 posted on 10/27/2012 10:44:50 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: LongWayHome
Take this to the bank: blacks will vote well over 90% for Obama.

If black voter turnout is suppressed, it bodes well for Romney. 90% of less is less.

30 posted on 10/27/2012 10:51:17 PM PDT by Chunga (Ron Paul is a fruitcakey jackass.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I’m white and my bro-in-law is black. He is a great guy and someone I can trust my sister (and nephew) with totally.

He voted Obama last time. I understand why he did so. I’m not going to demean him for it, even though we all knew what Obama meant. He is not voting for him this time. I think Obama lost about a 1/4 of black votes to Romney and 1/4 of black turn out.

I have a black (she is African) woman who is observing my class as she trains to become a teacher. She asked me if I was voting Obama. I said “No way.” She said, “Why? Obama will help you as a teacher.” I said “I have 2 or 3 skill sets that would make me twice what I make now. All I want is for Obama not to tell me what to teach, like he is trying to do with Common Core and Race to the Top.” She said, “So you like Romney?” I said “No, he’s pretty mediocre, but I’ll vote for him to slow the use of money that should be going into my family’s mouth that’s being used for other purposes. It’s not all ‘free money’.” She took a pause.


31 posted on 10/27/2012 10:51:26 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I drive around Chicago all the time for work. It is very odd. There are no obama signs, I mean none. I know they think they have no reason to be concerned in IL, but usually they put them up anyway. I think the turnout may be very, very, low. It would not surprise me if they are caught sleeping in IL.


32 posted on 10/27/2012 10:51:39 PM PDT by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Thanks for posting your experience.

I prepare taxes and as part of that we have to ask if people want to allocate $3 to the pres. election fund. I thought with Obama many black people would say Yes! but that was wrong. Most people still say No. Most say no, what have they done for me, some say Hell NO! some do say OK, but nobody, black or white or spanish or anything else says YES!

I’m sure Obama will do as well as most Dems do with Black voters, but I don’t think he’ll get the super, super majority he got last time.

(He also may be well screwed with the Jews, I hope he is, he deserves to be.)

But to me the unique failure of Obama, in terms of the black americans has been how he did NOTHING, NOTHING! to at least try and use the bully pulpit to pull the black family off the edge of the abyss.

All Obama ever does with black americans is try to appeal to the lowest element, the whole: trayvon looks like my son stuff. Yet he has never encouraged black men to be like him, to marry their women and be faithful to them, to be good at home fathers to their children.

There are so, so, so many problems in the black community and Obama has made it pretty clear that he couldn’t care less about them.

This post might be a little garbled, but I hope I got my points across.


33 posted on 10/27/2012 10:54:56 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Shortstop7

I sure hope the college age kids aren’t going to vote in the numbers similar to ‘08. He’s given them no reason to vote for him, and you’re right, he’s not cool and it’s not cool to vote for a complete failure.


34 posted on 10/27/2012 10:55:01 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: buffyt
I have spoken to a couple of black men that I know and they both said that they were not voting for the top of the ticket because they did not like either Obama or Romney.

They were all in for Obama in 2008.

35 posted on 10/27/2012 10:56:15 PM PDT by oldbrowser (An empty chair attracts a stadium full of empty chairs.)
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To: buffyt

“I am hearing that in Southern California, too”

L.A. blacks IMHO will vote for Odumbo but begrudgingly. Oh, how many times I’ve been on La Brea and Highland and overhear the bruthas’ bitching about the “they ain’t give him some time, man!”. Good thing I have a meeting with development people at “one of the big studios” on November 7 just to see them cry and look miserable.


36 posted on 10/27/2012 10:57:13 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: onyx

at the food court at the mall several tables of women were eatin and this lady in the center said....I actually believed Obama was finally gonna get me my 40 acres and a mule......he did too.

then I found out he wanted me to PAY for it.....RETAIL

BS on that and what I want a mule for anyway

the whole gaggle exploded laughin out loud


37 posted on 10/27/2012 10:59:01 PM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: LongWayHome

Maybe 90% of yhe blacks that come out to vote.. But the point is he will not get the huge turnout he did in 2008.


38 posted on 10/27/2012 11:03:03 PM PDT by Hildy (hen the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: max americana

I don’t want them to cry. They’ve been manipulated by the Dems for too long. We need to get them out of government dependency but that means we’ll actually have to talk to them instead of ignoring them.


39 posted on 10/27/2012 11:06:40 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: advertising guy

Roffle = ROTFL.
Yer kiddin me, right?


40 posted on 10/27/2012 11:08:36 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: jocon307
This post might be a little garbled, but I hope I got my points across.

Your post is fine. I agree with what you said.

41 posted on 10/27/2012 11:10:39 PM PDT by Daaave ("Listen to them. Children of the night. What music they make.")
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To: onyx

I typed it as if I had a tape recorder on


42 posted on 10/27/2012 11:16:10 PM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I come from a very large family of black Democrats. What you saw and heard tonight from black people you talked to, has been going on with my family for the last two years.

Me being the sole conservative Republican in the clan, they won’t come right out and tell me how disillusioned they are with Obama, but the last time I was back home in California, all traces of their love affair with The One had vanished.

When the subject of politics inevitably came up, they all sat and quietly listened to me expound upon my conservative views, without interruption. In times past, they would have all ganged up on me, and shouted me down, but something had dramatically changed with them.

To be honest, it was actually unnerving. I’ve never seen them this way before.


43 posted on 10/27/2012 11:17:20 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I have a few extended family members who are degenerate liberals and have decided to sit this one out. I suspect that’s how most of them are. They know Zero is crap, they can’t bring themselves to vote for Romney, so they’ll either vote for Ralph Nader or stay home.


44 posted on 10/27/2012 11:19:08 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: advertising guy

LOL. Well, your tape recorder is a hoot! Leave it on “record”!


45 posted on 10/27/2012 11:22:00 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: My Favorite Headache

My niece’s husband is black. They voted Obama in ‘08. Not this year. They’re angry about his immigration policies that will wind up with illegals taking jobs from (black) Americans. There was one other strong reason, but I can’t recall it now (gay marriage, IIRC). Anyhow, they’ll be voting Romney.


46 posted on 10/27/2012 11:27:10 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: My Favorite Headache

Where I live people are defacing cars parked near Romney signs.


47 posted on 10/27/2012 11:29:44 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama didn't fix it.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
The economy and Obama's support for Gay marriage is what turned off many black people away from him.
Black people in general never bought into the lie that the same struggle that they had was or is somehow in terms related to the imagined so called struggle of homos.

However ? I would go on to say that black people have wasted their political capital by voting for this fraud.
I do hope that you can convince and encourage at least some of them to give Romney a chance now, today in this election.
48 posted on 10/27/2012 11:31:21 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: onyx

Yep..I don’t think it’s going to happen for the kids this time. They don’t seem to be feeling it. I think that’s why we saw the “sexy Obama political ad” come out...they know the college kids aren’t feeling it this time.

Also, those college kids aren’t all dummies. They are seeing mom and dad struggling. Some of them may become Republicans at 30 instead of 40 :)


49 posted on 10/27/2012 11:33:16 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: LongWayHome
Take this to the bank: blacks will vote well over 90% for Obama.

Try not to think of black voters as such a monolithic generality. Believe it or not, there are great differences in the opinions and personal considerations of blacks, just as there are among any other group of Americans.

The anecdotal stories you're reading about some blacks' disappointments with Obama, are real, and should not be discounted. The truth is, that sentiment is widespread, and not confined to blacks who are unemployed, or who don't think Obama's done enough to rip off Whitey.

My siblings are all professional people with careers, homes, 401Ks, investment portfolios, college kids, grandkids, etc. They're also black Democrats who voted for Obama in 2008, and every one of them quit singing Obama's praises two years ago. Even during this hotly contested election, they haven't uttered a single word about him.

I half expect most of them to stay home on election day. Of those blacks who do get to the polls, perhaps 9 in 10 will vote for Obama, but their numbers will be greatly decreased from the turnout of four years ago.

50 posted on 10/27/2012 11:33:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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