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Vanity Is the storm hyped up?
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search.php?storm=at3 ^

Posted on 10/28/2012 11:54:10 AM PDT by CGASMIA68

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search.php?storm=at3

This is from what i think is a bouy close to the center of the storm. Wind speed 39G48 not bad although 26 ft waves for 13 seconds is batten down the hatches stuff. So if it heads W with these numbers what will winds be be at land fall?

Is the storm hyped up?


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1 posted on 10/28/2012 11:54:16 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: t1b8zs

If it destroys Wall Street....Obammy and the left will be happy.


2 posted on 10/28/2012 11:57:16 AM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: t1b8zs

I think it is not so much the wind velocity but the sheer amount of rain it will drop and over such a huge area and for such a long time.

If I was anywhere on the East Coast I would be preparing with an expectation of no services for a week AND a good chance of flooding in areas prone to that.


3 posted on 10/28/2012 11:58:13 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: t1b8zs

No hype. It’s not particular powerful compared to some of the category x storms we’ve seen in recent years, but it’s absolutely huge and carrying lots of water. The East coast is facing a real and imminent flooding danger.


4 posted on 10/28/2012 11:59:44 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Dallas59

“If it destroys Wall Street....Obammy and the left will be happy.”

Many of us would be happy if it destroys the District of Crooks (D.C.)


5 posted on 10/28/2012 12:00:30 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: t1b8zs

If it shuts down the stock markets in New York, Obamama will blame the storm for that part of the economic downturn. If it shuts down the Bureau of Labor Statistics (and it probably will), there will be no unemployment statistics for the last week when a lot of major companies were announcing large layoffs.


6 posted on 10/28/2012 12:01:05 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: t1b8zs

That was my 1st thought as well. However, the only thing that concerns me is this hurricane colliding with the winter storm.

If so, our FRiends in PA are in for a boat load of trouble.


7 posted on 10/28/2012 12:01:05 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: t1b8zs
There's a difference between the center of the Storm (eye) and the bands around it. What is the wind velocity say about 30 miles east and west of the buoy? Where is Jim Cantorie?


8 posted on 10/28/2012 12:02:22 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: freedumb2003

I guess its the length of time that all this water will be pushed up against the east coast.Just read it will be pounding for almoust 48hrs a hopefully the coast my weaken it,some.
That hovering crap is worse than a fast mover at 75 mph....Good luck to use guys close to the coast.


9 posted on 10/28/2012 12:03:55 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: darkwing104

I checked other bouys and they all look same,over


10 posted on 10/28/2012 12:05:15 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: darkwing104

This storm has a huge tropical storm-force wind field. Over 300 miles.


11 posted on 10/28/2012 12:05:35 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: t1b8zs

I don’t want to change your thread to Politics — but just wonderin’

Has an election date ever been extended due to weather?


12 posted on 10/28/2012 12:06:03 PM PDT by bunster
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To: t1b8zs

It’s borderline category 1. But it will likely get assists from the other storm further out to sea and from the cold air coming in from the north because of the jet stream.

Also, with the full moon, tides will be at their highest when the surge goes by.


13 posted on 10/28/2012 12:06:03 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

The BushCheneyHalburton Natural Disaster machine needs tweaking.


14 posted on 10/28/2012 12:07:29 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: t1b8zs

Is it hyped up? Sure - practically every storm that might affect our “elites” is hyped up. Is it excessively, unrealistically hyped up? We’ll know when it’s over.


15 posted on 10/28/2012 12:07:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Decency requires that they be voted out of office as an act of urgent political hygiene." ~Steyn)
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To: t1b8zs

Just cue up “Send in the Clowns” while they trot out the AGW crew to “explain”...


16 posted on 10/28/2012 12:08:10 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: t1b8zs
I think it will turn into a non-event. I sense much hype.

No one is talking about Benghazi. No one is talking about Romney. Everyone is watching the media, soaking in lots of Obama ads. It's all good.

17 posted on 10/28/2012 12:09:58 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: t1b8zs

Every storm these days is hyped up. However, nor’easters are the most damaging in this area. Take a look at “Ash Wednesday storm 1962.”

The wind here has been pretty steady northeast, so the water level is a little high. I am 2 blocks from the ocean. Tomorrow is full moon high tide at 7:40 - which will coincide with the peak of the storm. Put a hurricane surge at the eyewall and you could be a good 15 feet above high tide. The eye on this storm, however, does not look so well organized. If it organizes, could be bad.

Worst case is if the eyewall surge “corks” between Sandy Hook and Gateway National, then you have a following consistent northeast gale. The winds won’t be as severe as ‘92 - 90 mph sustained - but that storm didn’t have an eye. But this bitch has the potential for a sustained northeast gale. The lower Hudson valley becomes a giant toilet bowl.

This happenstance cannot be ruled out right now, so that is why Bloomberg called for an evacuation. It is the right call.


18 posted on 10/28/2012 12:11:31 PM PDT by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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To: t1b8zs

Most of us know a little bit about hurricanes, like when they hit cold air they die. Maybe as a tropical storm it could produce much rain or snow. But it is really hyped for a one.


19 posted on 10/28/2012 12:15:05 PM PDT by Ramonne
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To: t1b8zs

On one side it is overhyped, though on another side, it’s appropriate. If the storm was on track to plow through the carolinas and wash Tennessee into the Atlantic, it wouldn’t be nearly as hyped. Population is lower and less concentrated, and the citizens there have more access to 4x4s, boats, chainsaws, and stores of nonperishables. Often, they’re also better armed and more familiar with their neighbors, which makes them less dependent upon government to secure their direct safety in a crisis situation

Huge storms hitting the d.c - nyc corridor in late october are unusual, and urban types are much less capable of solving their own problems (clearing debris in particular), or travelling in adverse weather without functioning public transportation or appropriate private vehicles for that terrain such as pickup trucks.

I guess by the end of the week we’ll know if the whole thing was a bunch of hype or not.


20 posted on 10/28/2012 12:17:55 PM PDT by jz638
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To: t1b8zs

Yes. All weather news is hyped up by those who need to be considered necessary in order to collect their paychecks.


21 posted on 10/28/2012 12:23:04 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: t1b8zs

If you live from below Virginia through New England, and west toward Ohio, includes the great lakes area, prepare for no power for two weeks.

New York City - Almost 400,000, area of the Battery, required evacuation.

To ignore this storm, is to devalue your life.

Two thousand power workers in other states are headed that direction.

This storm has very low pressure which continues to drop and means it is very strong and very large. It’s even a little lower pressure than Ike and that was a huge low pressure storm. I went through Ike and thought it would never stop - it went on for hours and hours.


22 posted on 10/28/2012 12:23:23 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: t1b8zs
I'm a meteorologist. Have been for 25 years.

It's not hyped. The winds, because of structure, are not near the center. They are removed to the NE and SW. The pressure is low and will get lower. The issue, however, is sustained strong winds over an area. This will do 2 things: Power outages and surge. The angle of approach...the strong winds...will combine to give massive surge over NJ and NY. Add heavy rain on top of that.

I've never seen anything like it...a storm this big and headed WNW (eventually) towards the coast. It's once in a lifetime to see this sort of setup.

23 posted on 10/28/2012 12:24:18 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: bunster

“Has an election date ever been extended due to weather?”

No.


24 posted on 10/28/2012 12:26:24 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: t1b8zs

I have to ask can’t anyone look a weather map and get the basics? Can’t anyone who believes that everything the ‘Lamestream’ say is hype or at least suspect just do a bit of research and learn for themselves? You don’t need a degree in meteorology the mechanics of this storm is easy enough that anyone with a middle school grasp of basic meteorology should be able to understand it’s impact.

Instead of people doing a bit of research which is so easy with today’s internet, they go off and proclaim things and make statements with no standing in fact.

But worse than that are the people who didn’t even tried to educate themselves as to the facts instantly proclaimed this hurricane as fake from the moment it formed.

We seem to have a lot of ‘ODS’ here on FR. Yes ‘Bama’ is horrible, yes he HAS GOT TO GO, but these people you act like he either conjurered up the storm or the whole thing is some Machiavellian plot out of a bad suspense novel. LIFE goes on, things happen. The storm doesn’t know or care that it’s election time or what ‘BAMA’ has done to this country.

I wouldn’t be surprised to hear of people who believed so much that the hurricane is just some leftist plot that they are caught unprepared for the storm and dying as a result of it crying out “It’s Obama’s fault” with their last breath!

Some seem to have reached a point where if they go to the doctor next week and he tells them that they have cancer it will be Obama’s fault! Or if they have a flat tire on the way to work next week it will be Obama’s fault! If you step on a crack and break your mother’s back it will be Obama’s fault!

To me this is the talk, methods and the mindset of the leftist. Its the same shill BS they spewed against George Bush. I thought we are better than that. I know we should be better than that. I know we can be better than that.


25 posted on 10/28/2012 12:26:27 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: NELSON111

GOD BLESS YOU NELSON111! For once a voice of sanity and reason on one of these threads!


26 posted on 10/28/2012 12:32:37 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: bunster

Maryland Governor O’Malley (D) has cancelled early voting for Monday, due to storm. Can’t Maryland citizens determine to stay inside on their own?


27 posted on 10/28/2012 12:34:39 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: t1b8zs

Coastal storms are always hyped up but It does look like a bad one.


28 posted on 10/28/2012 12:35:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: frithguild

so that is why Bloomberg called for an evacuation

after he said “No Need”


29 posted on 10/28/2012 12:35:51 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Melas

Flooding from surges cause huge damage. Nothing like salt water, mud and debris running through the trees, bushes, grass, buildings and infrastructure. It takes a long time to recover from the mess and it will take longer in an area of high population density. For some people, recovery is an extremely long and frustrating experience. :(

So, even if the winds are not horrible (thank goodness if that is the case), the flooding will be bad enough.

No way would I stick around to see what happens, especially with Department of Homeland InSecurity (FEMA) handling the recovery in an official emergency situation and that many residents involved in a disaster. Worse, in the cold weather of the Northeast!

I would be in a hotel or at one of my sister’s houses, far away from the mess and come back after I saw what was what. I would not go to a FEMA shelter. It will be a long stay if the flooding is bad because they don’t let people back in until it’s ready for civilization again. Some people get angry and nutty especially when everything is out of their control and they think of themselves as the dependents of sugar daddy government.


30 posted on 10/28/2012 12:37:28 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: steve86

This storm looks like Ike.


31 posted on 10/28/2012 12:38:35 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: NELSON111

Cool,Thanks for yer expertise,guess I wont be taking the Whaler out this eve.

When i was in the CG I used to BS with the NOAA guys that did the weather bouys and it was interesting.


32 posted on 10/28/2012 12:39:11 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: t1b8zs

I have no idea if its hyped..but it is opening up alot of questions for me.

For starters, NYC has issued evacuation orders. What is the protocol for evacuees and voting? I assume NY will go Blue no matter what, so it won’t really matter...

...but I hope NY doesn’t make a declaration that sets a precedent for, say, Philadelphia. And, it is possible that parts of many states in the region (to include VA and NH) will be without power in the week leading up to election day.

Remember, NYC delayed the mayoral primary, because of September 11.

And I remember some judge in MO trying to keep the polls open extra long in St Louis once.

I would love for the RNC to make an announcement, encouraging people to vote early, and to declare that its position will be any vote after poll closing on election day should not be counted, no matter what happens. Of course, they would just be accused of voter suppression.


33 posted on 10/28/2012 12:40:56 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: t1b8zs

Hey look everyone,

Enough talk of buoys. This is a serious emergency and the dog whistles need to stop right now.


34 posted on 10/28/2012 12:41:44 PM PDT by HannibalHamlinJr
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To: t1b8zs

Rhode Island has particular concerns for Narragansett Bay, the surges and moontides:

http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2012/10/ri-officials-prepare-for-sandy-effects-on-upper-narragansett-bay.html
R.I. officials prepare for Sandy effects on Upper Narragansett Bay

October 28, 2012 1:50 pm
By Kate Bramson

PROVIDENCE, R.I. — Emergency-management officials are “very concerned” about the potential storm surge in Upper Narragansett Bay from Hurricane Sandy and the effects it could have on Cranston, East Providence and Providence, according to Christine Hunsinger, Governor Chafee’s spokeswoman.

They’re particularly concerned because of the anticipated duration of Sandy here in Rhode Island, as well as because of the storm’s width.

Typically, hurricanes move through a region faster than this storm is expected to move, Hunsinger said. But Sandy is expected to stay in Rhode Island through at least two high-tide cycles and during the full moon on Monday night, which means the tides will be higher than usual anyway.

“It’s kind of a triple whammy,” Hunsinger said.

High tides on Monday are between 7:48 a.m. on Block Island and 8:42 a.m. at Weekapaug Point. Then, Monday evening, high tides return during the 8 to 9 p.m. hour, according to AccuWeather.com reports.

Those high tides push the water up Narragansett Bay, Hunsinger said. Then, the storm will continue to push water up the Bay and may not allow the waters to flow back out of the Bay before the next high tide rolls in, she said. And even by the third high tide, Tuesday morning, the storm may not have subsided and thus, there could be a third push of water up the Bay.


35 posted on 10/28/2012 12:41:51 PM PDT by ruralvoter
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To: Ramonne
Most of us know a little bit about hurricanes, like when they hit cold air they die.

But what makes this so unusual is that the storm is expected to gain energy from the high-latitude influences starting tomorrow. No, it doesn't mean the winds are going to gain much strength but it means the storm will not be "dying out" anytime soon.

36 posted on 10/28/2012 12:43:56 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: t1b8zs

“Is the storm hyped up?”

Could Sandy turn out to be the “Obama of hurricanes?”


37 posted on 10/28/2012 12:45:53 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Marcella

““Has an election date ever been extended due to weather?”

No.”

...but NYC postponed a primary due to September 11th.

I hope nobody gets any crazy ideas about delaying this election.


38 posted on 10/28/2012 12:46:26 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: t1b8zs
Last year Irene went up the east coast and it was a Cat 3 Hurricane. Much stronger then Sandy. Here is how you interpret governments handling of major disasters.

If the government says it will be bad, they know it wont be bad.

If the government says it wont be bad, they know it will be bad.

The reason they do this is because they do not have even 1/10 the resources needed to handle a major disaster. They are beyond broke. They are heavily in debt. So they underplay major destruction and overplay minor destruction. At least that is the way our crony government has been operating lately.

39 posted on 10/28/2012 12:46:35 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Kartographer

I have to ask can’t anyone look a weather map and get the basics?

Not me nope to stupid,I chose to look at the stats on a bouy somewhere around 32N71W..gesh what bug crawled up yer butt.


40 posted on 10/28/2012 12:46:48 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: t1b8zs

I think it is hitting a front too, or something, but the fact it is affecting NYC and somewhat affecting some swing states (VA, OH) is adding to the coverage. If this was hitting Idaho, the media and Obama would not care.


41 posted on 10/28/2012 12:47:48 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: t1b8zs
"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life"
42 posted on 10/28/2012 12:49:11 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: bunster

It wasn’t POTUS, but didn’t 9/11/01 fall on a primary or something in NYC?


43 posted on 10/28/2012 12:50:45 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: t1b8zs
The weather channel, accuweather and the news are not over hyping the storm. People need to take simple precautions but not go stark raving mad. Obama is over hyping and a lot of people are over reacting. But they do that around here for any storm.

The grocery store was packed yesterday with everyone buying fixings for French toast (milk, eggs, and bread.). I went to the store as a normal trip, not to stock up. Today I went to the liquor store, and it was packed. These are the optimistic people. I wish things would get bad enough that I would have a day off or two from work so that I could hang out with my neighbors and help each other get through to rough times of having to use ice before it melts and drink beer before it gets warm.

44 posted on 10/28/2012 12:53:58 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (In a previous life I was ...)
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To: NELSON111

Once in a lifetime setup? I am located in Houston where Hurricanes are taken seriously. Can you imagine people up north having no clue of the potential problems.


45 posted on 10/28/2012 12:53:58 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: steve86
But what makes this so unusual is that the storm is expected to gain energy from the high-latitude influences starting tomorrow. No, it doesn't mean the winds are going to gain much strength but it means the storm will not be "dying out" anytime soon.

Actually, the current hype claims it will strengthen tomorrow as it goes over warmer Gulf Stream waters. The influences they are talking about are a lack of shearing that will allow the storm to strengthen, if it so desires. All that potential strengthening requires a 90 degree turn into the dominant mid-latitude air flows (west to east). A few of the models now are back to predicting it will not turn west.

46 posted on 10/28/2012 12:56:51 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: NELSON111

So this is a once or twice a century occurrence?

The way otherwise independent influences are coming together for this is terrifying. I’m reminded of the “Columbus Day Storm” here in the NW. That also has its infancy in a tropical storm, with synergistic northern latitude influences combing to create a killer storm.


47 posted on 10/28/2012 12:56:59 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: PghBaldy

I don’t know — haven’t heard that. I’m just thinking ahead as to what the Dems might try and pull — what with flooding and electric outage and postal trucks getting swamped — guess too much time on my hands.


48 posted on 10/28/2012 12:57:00 PM PDT by bunster
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To: Kartographer

Bravo!


49 posted on 10/28/2012 12:58:02 PM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: steve86

combing = combining


50 posted on 10/28/2012 12:59:21 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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