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OPINION: Is human longevity due to grandmothers or older fathers?
UNSW ^ | 10/30/12 | Rob Brooks

Posted on 10/31/2012 2:08:41 AM PDT by LibWhacker

Why do humans tend to live such a long time? Our closest relatives, the chimpanzees, can last into their mid forties in the wild. Yet somewhere in the last six million years, human lifespans have lengthened dramatically, so that living into our seventies is no big surprise.

The last few weeks have seen some exciting new developments in this area. First, a recent paper featured in The Conversation showed that at all ages, humans are less likely to die than chimps.

Excitingly, however, modern health care, diets and the steady decline in violent deaths have slashed mortality rates of young adults. People in societies like Japan are now almost 200 times less likely to die in at a given age than people of the same age in hunter-gatherer societies.

The dramatic declines in modern mortality rates are almost entirely due to technological developments, but the lengthening of the maximum potential human lifespan since we diverged from the other great apes poses an intriguing evolutionary problem.

Our bodies only function as well as they do because we have a quiver-full of cellular repair and maintenance mechanisms. For example, we have systems that correct mistakes in DNA replication, and others that detect and kill off pre-cancerous clusters of cells.

But natural selection optimises those mechanisms to operate during our expected lifespan. Modern people who live beyond seventy are much more likely to suffer from cancers, dementia and other diseases of old age. Few of our ancestors – even the most recent ones – lived that long, and these late-onset diseases didn’t interfere with their successful reproduction. By the time they got the diseases, our ancestors had already passed their genes on – and that’s why we carry those same genes.

Six million years ago, the diseases of old age probably kicked in before our great-ape ancestors hit forty. The evolution of a longer lifespan involved a steady postponement of ageing. But only if older individuals contribute to the success of their own genes can this actually happen.

Older and fitter

Grandmothers are enjoying a renaissance in the evolutionary sciences, and it seems that delayed ageing might have evolved via grandmothering.

A few months ago, in this column, I discussed the evolution of menopause. In most animals, females reproduce throughout their adult lives. But women, and females of some whale species, stop having offspring of their own and live on for some time.

Exactly how this evolves remains controversial, but the help grandmothers provide to their adult offspring is crucial to all the competing theories. Male killer whales whose mothers are still alive tend, themselves, to live longer and sire more calves.

Human grandmothers help their daughters or sons to raise families of their own. As I discussed in my previous column, however, the reason grandmothers stop having their own babies might be due to less than healthy dynamics between them and their daughters-in-law.. The exact pathway by which menopause evolved will probably take decades to resolve entirely. But menopause and grandmothering also appear to have important evolutionary consequences.

Anthroplogist Kristen Hawkes has, for some time, argued that the evolution of menopause led to the lengthening of the human lifespan. When a mother retires from having more children of her own and starts investing in grandchildren, she continues to ensure the success of her own genes.

So, any genes that hasten the onset of ageing and disease in older women also rob grandchildren of the food and protection of their grannies. Which is why, according to Hawkes' “Grandmother Hypothesis”, the evolution of longer human lifespans was driven by the important contributions grandmothers made to their grandchildren’s fitness.

The grandmother hypothesis is far from universally accepted. Some papers argue that the benefits to grandchildren are far too weak to drive an evolutionary extension of grandmother’s lives.

And what about men? Could longer male lives simply be a by-product of lengthening female lives? The short answer is “possibly”. Many of the same diseases of ageing afflict women and men, so any suppression of these diseases would result in longer lifespans for both sexes.

But a 2007 paper entitled Why Men Matter: Mating Patterns Drive Evolution of Human Lifespan suggests that men might have been the primary drivers of human lifespan extension. Shripad D. Tuljapurkar, Cedric O. Puleston and Michael D. Gurven produced a model showing that men’s ability to sire children well into old age – an ability practiced with some relish by many older, wealthier men throughout history – could be just as important as grandmothering. Perhaps Viagra will stimulate a new evolutionary rise in human lifespan.

Of course there is no reason that virile old men and helpful grandmothers could not have both pushed back the onset of ageing and extended our lifespans. But the latest volley from Hawkes and her collaborators gives new support to the importance of grandmothers.

Using a simple simulation model, they showed that a relatively modest amount of grandmothering can lead to the evolution of extended grand-maternal longevity. From a simple chimp-like state in which few women lived beyond their child-bearing years, the contributions grandmothers made to their grandchildren’s survival and future reproduction eventually led to the evolution of extra decades worth of lifespan.

TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; grandmothers; helixmakemineadouble; human; longevity

1 posted on 10/31/2012 2:08:47 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
Our closest relatives, the chimpanzees, ........

Oh great. Wait till I tell my brother he's an ape. Whooooooooooooooooooo boy.

2 posted on 10/31/2012 2:25:59 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: LibWhacker

I didnt read this yet
but I would bet
the reason is
running water
flush toilets
up till recently, Islam kept in the desert

3 posted on 10/31/2012 2:41:48 AM PDT by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: LibWhacker

The answer should be obvious to everyone: we are (should be) raised by our grandparents while our parents go hunt and gather. This make sense in all sorts of ways.....

4 posted on 10/31/2012 2:56:51 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: LibWhacker

” Modern people who live beyond seventy are much more likely to suffer from cancers, dementia and other diseases of old age. “

Do ya think ???

So, if you get old you tend to get more old-age related diseases than someone younger ... how does that make sense.

... 8+ years of college education wrapped up in one sentence

5 posted on 10/31/2012 3:56:11 AM PDT by sawmill trash (Gun control is like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks LibWhacker.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.

6 posted on 10/31/2012 4:22:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (
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To: RaceBannon
And just general civilization providing food and protection. I'm hitting the age where if I had to catch my own food by hand (or with a rock or handmade spear) I would be getting hungry. Either that or I would be towards the back of the pack when the sabre tooth tiger decides he wants a two legged snack. You don't last long when you hit either of those points as a hunter-gatherer.
7 posted on 10/31/2012 5:17:22 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Didn’t get my deer this year. I’m practicing stalking pumpkins.

8 posted on 10/31/2012 8:03:53 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: LibWhacker

Last I checked, the National Death Rate was holding steady at 100%. ;-)

9 posted on 10/31/2012 9:37:30 AM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: LibWhacker

I suspect it’s mothers/grandmothers.

The cellular machinery (mitochondria, etc) come from the egg, not the sperm.

Two experiments I wonder about would be:

Take an egg (like a mouse egg) and inject it with a mix of other germ lines mitochondria. Fertilize and watch the lifespan.

In one of the higher primates, re-introduce the third gene needed for Vitamin C synthesis. Most animals on the planet make their own Vit C, but humans, fruit bats, a few others have suffered the mutation of losing that gene.

It would be interesting!

10 posted on 10/31/2012 11:35:14 AM PDT by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: djf

Children of teenaged mothers have the highest death rate, which falls as the mother matures. If the child’s grandmother is around to help and teach, the survival rate of the children improves. An active grandmother statistically means more surviving grandchildren.

11 posted on 10/31/2012 12:37:08 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: SunkenCiv

Thank you. I’ve been thinking a lot about longevity and lack thereof recently, ever since my doctor put me on blood pressure medicine. It runs it the family y’know.

12 posted on 10/31/2012 6:36:13 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: KarlInOhio; djf; RaceBannon; no-to-illegals; SunkenCiv; All

I watched my husband’s slow death from Alzheimers and now have a scientific hypothesis. Wandering is a problem with this disease. My husband did the most of that when he was hungry and in the year or two before he began to be physically deteriorate significantly. I had to watch like a hawk when cooking meals that he didn’t escape. He could also do simple ongoing tasks like sweeping stairs or raking leaves. Kind of like flint knapping or scraping hides.

So, my theory is that early tribal man/woman with Alzheimers wakes up hungry in the middle of the night in winter. Goes out, people just think he/she needs to pee, doesn’t come back and freezes to death. One less mouth to feed and more food for survival of his offspring. My husband was Scotts ancestry with a little Cree Indian, both fringe peoples. I have checked some cultures where the people have been settled in urban centers for 500 or more years. Much lower senile demential rates there. If people wandered off they would probably be found and returned to family. More research needed.

13 posted on 10/31/2012 10:42:56 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: LibWhacker

The evolution of menopause? Can you imagine what life for women must have been like during the eons of “partial menopause”?

14 posted on 11/01/2012 2:18:47 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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