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RASMUSSEN SUNDAY: O 49% R 49%... DEVELOPING....
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Posted on 11/04/2012 6:36:44 AM PST by Blue Turtle

RASMUSSEN SUNDAY: O 49% R 49%... DEVELOPING....

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To: dforest
Maybe they are scared to ...

They are just being pragmatic.

THey have some sense of where things will go, but are not sure, and need to balance risk versus gain.

They can slant things for Romney; if they are right, that's fine. If they are wrong, there will be recriminations from the regime's second term. Somewhat less risk, but chance of BIG Problems.

OR.... they can slant things for 0', much more likely they are wrong, but if they are indeed wrong, there will be no recriminations from Romney, and if they are right, there also are no recriminations from the regime's second term.

THus, one way has a two outcomes - the likely with no downside and the unlikely with BIG downside. Compare to the other way - also with two outcomes - both likely and unlikely with no downsides to either.

41 posted on 11/04/2012 6:55:17 AM PST by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: GoCards
Question? Have early votes actually been counted or are they assumed because voter affiliation? and what about the indies? How do they know how they voted.

No they have not been counted, they are just assumed that democrat ballots are for Obama and Republican votes are for Romney. Which historically has been pretty accurate as 90% tend to vote for their parties candidate. However, there was an interesting tidbit buried in yesterday's Washington Post Poll that showed Romney getting 97% of Republicans but Obama only getting 91% of democrats. If 3% of Republicans vote for Obama and 9% of democrats vote for Romney, then the early vote estimates may be overstating Obama's vote by 6%....

42 posted on 11/04/2012 6:55:30 AM PST by apillar
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Anything is possible, and I do see when you get Rasmussen emails you get lots of ads for things maybe he is a sell out.

I doubt it, certainly hope Gallup is right. Anyway, the national tied number doesn’t mean much when you look at the state polls.

IF we really are tied or leading in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio - then the election is over, Obama won’t get to 50% in those states and many of them should have been his. I say IF.


43 posted on 11/04/2012 6:55:44 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Blue Turtle

The media wants a horse race.
Get ready for exit polling showing Zero ahead, but don’t believe a word of it. The press is setting up a claim of a stolen election should Romney win.

1. We were told on the day of the Wisconsin Recall that the exit polling showed the race was too close to call. We all know how that turned out. Here is the link
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47699042/ns/politics/t/wisconsin-recall-election-too-close-call-after-polls-close/#.UJZ_L8U0WSo

2. We were told that Kerry was up 5 points in Ohio in the 2004 election. Bush won OH. Here is the link to a story that says the election was stolen by Bush because exit polling had Kerry up 53 to 47.
http://www.michaelparenti.org/stolenelections.html


44 posted on 11/04/2012 6:56:15 AM PST by ShovelThemOut
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To: VanDeKoik

It had crossed my mind, no one wants to throw their reputation down the toilet so they all stick to the neutral tie position. Would not surprise.

Lets see what Gallup says tomorrow.


45 posted on 11/04/2012 6:56:31 AM PST by sunmars
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To: Mr. K

If R turnout is high we win
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Will this be the Chick-Fil-A election? Could be.


46 posted on 11/04/2012 6:57:43 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Blue Turtle
There may need to be an update of this paper done in 1980 on the Reagan victory and how polling did not accurately reflect the huge victory. Reading the first page it is like 2012 dejavu.

http://www.amstat.org/sections/srms/Proceedings/papers/1981_011.pdf

47 posted on 11/04/2012 6:58:01 AM PST by ScottinSacto (Liberals support abortion on demand and gay marriage....sounds like a great strategic plan!)
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To: Proudcongal
Can’t believe im saying to myself, at least it’s tied. It wasn’t supposed to be this way.

Exactly. We need to change our outlook. We would have died for this outcome (deadlocked with a day or so to go), a month ago.

It reminds me of a football game when we were blowing out the other team, only to see them catch up in the 2nd half. But we have the ball with about 2 minutes to go. We can do this!
48 posted on 11/04/2012 6:58:09 AM PST by nhwingut (Get out & Vote as if your life was on the line. Because it is.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Agreed
He has been twisting his figures to keep Nate off his back and Axelrod .
Sad to see their ability to shut down all opponents !
This figure makes Fox happy because ratings will be high on Election Day coverage .


49 posted on 11/04/2012 6:58:17 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Blue Turtle

Factoring in dem voter fraud?


50 posted on 11/04/2012 6:58:52 AM PST by Toespi
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To: Sans-Culotte

It’s very possible for teh national poll to be misleading, because candidates can have huge leads in California, NY, Texas, etc. and those big leads affect the national total.

But yeah, if Obama seems weaker in some of his blue states, and Romney is strong in red states, you’d think Romney would show a national lead.

Then again we are talking about many polls from many pollsters. I think Rasmussen has it pretty close everywhere.


51 posted on 11/04/2012 7:00:37 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Blue Turtle

Costas Panagopoulos of Fordham University, polls
Panagopoulos ranked 23 major polling organizations by the accuracy of their final 2008 presidential election polls. Here is his list:

1. Rasmussen

1. Pew Research Center

2. YouGov/Polimetrix

3. Harris Interactive

4. GWU (Lake/Tarrance)

5. Diageo/Hotline

5. ARG

6. CNN

6. Ipsos/McClatchy

7. DailyKos.com

8. AP/Yahoo/KN

9. Democracy Corps

10. Fox

11. Economist/YouGov

12. IBD/TIPP

13. NBC/Wall Street Journal

14. ABC/Washington Post

15. Marist College

16. CBS

17. Gallup

18. Reuters/C-Span/Zogby

19. CBS/New York Times

20. Newsweek


52 posted on 11/04/2012 7:01:11 AM PST by Walmartian (I'm their leader. Which way did they go?)
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To: ShovelThemOut

And the link claiming Kerry was up by 5 in OH:
http://www.thedemocraticstrategist.org/donkeyrising/2004/10/kerry_up_by_5_in_ohio.html


53 posted on 11/04/2012 7:05:53 AM PST by ShovelThemOut
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To: KansasGirl

The blue states include the most populous and most EV-rich. CA/NY/IL for starts.


54 posted on 11/04/2012 7:05:59 AM PST by EDINVA (I)
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To: nhwingut

Christie helped out Obozo just enough to close the gap
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Yes, while the storm was a major event that probably benefitted Obama to a small extent, the really damaging thing was the part that Christie played in allowing Obama to appear bi-partisan, a momentary impression that may have had an impact on voters. IMO Christie’s obsequious fawning was needlessly over-the-top.


55 posted on 11/04/2012 7:06:52 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Walmartian

Who’s got the internals for this poll?
ie, how many D+? has Ras added today?
Methinks he’s putting his thumb on the scale a bit, as he has been all of last week.


56 posted on 11/04/2012 7:06:59 AM PST by sillsfan (Reagan and Sarah are right- WE win, they lose!)
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To: goodolemr
This uptick for Obama is very annoying

I wouldn't worry too much about it. Pat Caddel, Jimmy Carters former pollster, explained this yesterday on FOX. He said that the conventional wisdom is undecideds break for the challenger 2/1. He said that is true, but the 1/3 of undecideds that are going to break for the incumbent tend to do so earlier than the undecideds that break for the challenger. So the incumbent gets a bounce a few days before the election, and the challenger gets everyone else on election day. He said that Carters internal polling had him going up in the polls and in a statistical tie the Saturday before the election, however when the late deciders broke between Sunday and Tuesday, Reagan ended up winning by 8 points. He predicts the same thing in this race, however he says there are much fewer undecideds now than in 1980 so Romney can only get 2 or 3 percent as opposed to 8% for Reagan, so the race will not be a blowout. The fact is Obama has hit his ceiling, he's not going any higher. (In fact considering Ras still uses D+3 when gallup says the turnout will be R+1). The race could still very will end up being 53%R 47%O....

57 posted on 11/04/2012 7:07:26 AM PST by apillar
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To: MuttTheHoople

The guy from Hillbuzz is not to be trusted. He’s a Dem but has found a niche with the Right in his and our distaste for Obama. Remember, Hillbuzz swore for months that the Hillary supporting PUMA’s were going to vote for McCain in droves and flip Pennsylvania. He is not to be believed.


58 posted on 11/04/2012 7:07:42 AM PST by Jake8898
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To: VanDeKoik

Your right .
These pollster have no incentive to stick there neck out .
Axelrod and Daily Kozer nutter Silver will attack .
Crummy push poll outfits like QU and Marist and PPP still get hired to
Cook up dem push polls by their Dem media pals .
If being accurate meant anything QU would have been shut down years ago !

Europe has it right .
Ban polling 2-3 months before an election .
It’s nothing but a psych ops and manipulation racket .


59 posted on 11/04/2012 7:08:17 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: catfish1957

First and last impressions are always the most important in influencing human decisons.
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Romney is closing on a good note. He’s taking the high road while Obama is stuck in the ditch.


60 posted on 11/04/2012 7:11:52 AM PST by Starboard
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