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Vanitay: After Romney Wins
11/5/2012 | Walkingfeather

Posted on 11/05/2012 6:18:15 AM PST by Walkingfeather

Many of us had great hesitation about Romney as a candidate. He just was too centrist for our liking. THEN... the debates hit. I personally saw a man I could join with him in his race.Suddenly we had the benefit of actually really liking the man we all wanted to defeat Obama. However, please remember this....... We want to get Obama out of office as priority number 1. It was our impression that shifted towards him. In all likely hood he will not govern from the right. I am saying this because I do not want people to have the presupposition that because you actually like Romney it means he will act like Reagan. No whining or Bitching when he actually does what he says he is going to do and reach across the aisle. Here is why I bring up this point. So we all know the political reality we are dealing with. First outcome, Obama out, Boom we got that win.

BUT knowing Romney will not govern 100% like we want,what are your top 2-5 issues you would want to utilize pressure to have him go our way on? List them Below and your strategy ideas on how to pressure a candidate that is not our candidate to hit at least our top priorities?


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To: Walkingfeather

Obamacare
Immigration
EPA


21 posted on 11/05/2012 7:12:29 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: Walkingfeather

If Romney wins, expect him to go back to his RINO roots and work hand in hand with Harry Reid and the Senate Dem majority and point and laugh at the House. He never has been and never will be a true conservative.

On another note, unless Obama can be stopped in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Wisconsin, this conjecture is simply academic.


22 posted on 11/05/2012 7:16:09 AM PST by jackmercer
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To: Walkingfeather

That is why it is imparitive to take over the Senate and strengthen the TP hold in the house! Our congress MUST pull him towards Conservatism.

That said, it IS imparitive to repeal Obamacare, so we must also continue the fight for another 30 hours.....


23 posted on 11/05/2012 7:18:26 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Walkingfeather

We’ll just have to see what happens tomorrow. A lot of us mostly want to get that damn ******* out of the WH.. I’m not an optimist, and if Romney wins, it may be four years of capitulation and frustration, but we can do a lot to hold his feet to the fire. And if by chance we get control of the Senate, we will have some real conservatives to help us there. Unfortunately, the usual Repub circular firing squads may have lost us a couple of principled Senators in Indianna and Missouri.

If Romney loses (and I’m still astounded that it is even close with this POTUS), then we should end all of this useless compromise to get a “centrist” to run, and go with someone that the voters can feel has core convictions. Enough of these damn half-measures...


24 posted on 11/05/2012 7:36:52 AM PST by PauldArco
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To: Paine in the Neck

I know of the perfect time to share that sentiment. At the inauguration. The cry from the crowd that should be REPEAL, REPEAL, REPEAL


25 posted on 11/05/2012 7:37:01 AM PST by Josa
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To: Walkingfeather

Sadly the choice is pretty clear.

Obama: Completely destroy the US as we know it.

Romney: Status Quo - to - make things marginally worse.

Tale of two poisons, one kills you painfully, the other just makes you sick, but you survive to fight another day.


26 posted on 11/05/2012 7:53:16 AM PST by Delmarksman (Pro 2A Anglican American (Ford and Chevy kill more people than guns do, lets ban them))
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To: Walkingfeather
Implement the Paul-Mac Penney plan.

Repeal Owebama care.

Down power the EPA.

Establish energy independence. This includes coal to oil conversion.

Restore the integrity of the ballot box.

Secure our nations borders.

Go after democrat urban voters with a conservative message

27 posted on 11/05/2012 7:56:35 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Walkingfeather

1. DEFUND socialist/totalitarian collectives, foreign and domestic. (Obamacare especially)

2. DEFUND socialist/totalitarian collectives, foreign and domestic. (legal plunder is halted...the economy thrives...we are stronger than ever)

“Socialism Is Legal Plunder” - Bastiat

3. DEFUND socialist/totalitarian collectives, foreign and domestic. (the deficit and debt go away long term)

4. DEFUND/DISMANTLE UNaccountable bureaucracies (socialist constructs) domestic and foreign. (whiney collectivists will have to do something productive not progressive)

5. DEPOPULATE socialists/totalitarians from the body politic. (the anti-individual, anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-life criminals who got us into this quagmire will not be around to subjugate us again)

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

“—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

Alter it. It’s easy to...

live - free - republic


28 posted on 11/05/2012 8:10:23 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Buckeye McFrog
and rolls up in the fetal position

That's what Republicans do best when in power.

29 posted on 11/05/2012 8:15:21 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: carjic
I think your assessment is generally correct. I voted for Mitt but I am not under any illusions as to what I will be getting from him. Yes, he is a squish but he may get tougher. By all accounts he is a good and deceient man and this argues in his favor. I think he knows where the country stands and will start pushing the hard decisions that will start the correction. Is he tough enough? Not yet but MAYBE soon. Perhaps I am a foolish optimist. In the end will it be enough? Nope. I think the western financial system is going to collapse and we will not be able to stop it. So...
30 posted on 11/05/2012 8:19:12 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Walkingfeather

I want to see some kind of “Anti-Regulation Task Force” which will identify all new regulations imposed by Obama over the past four years. Once identified, it must become an important force within the new administration and the new Congress to repeal them, to restore “the pre-Obama status quo”.

Particular emphasis should be placed on the EPA. Not only must we revoke their regulations since 2008, but we should actually “go back further”, with an intent to undo as much of the EPA as is possible, short of outright dismantlement of that agency. I would prefer to abolish the EPA, but realize that that is a pipedream. Short of that, we can “take their teeth away”, if we really wish to do so. Read on...

For the long-term, I would like to see some kind of legislation on a national scale, or perhaps even a possible Constitutional Amendment, that will reign in the regulatory monster. The thrust of the amendment should be to establish within the Constitution the concept that ONLY CONGRESS (emphasis intentional) has the power to pass both laws AND regulations — with the intent that any new regulations passed by ANY agency or administration of the United States cannot become effective until there is a full vote in Congress to validate them.

I doubt that such an amendment could be passed by an existing Congress. Perhaps it’s time to actually use that part of the existing Constitution, that provides for a Constitutional Convention arising from the state level, and bypassing the Congress altogether.

I’ll put the tin foil hat back on the table now...


31 posted on 11/05/2012 9:14:50 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Nuc 1.1

“Establish energy independence. This includes coal to oil conversion.”

Quite frankly, shouldn’t this be the other way around?

Not only should we reverse the “war on coal”, we should begin pushing coal into a GREATER role in the country’s energy future.

Coal is our most abundant fossil-fuel resource. We should be building MORE coal-fired plants, and begin re-converting power plants (that were once coal-fired but have since been converted to oil or natural gas) BACK TO coal.

We have become more and more dependent on foreign petroleum, and I doubt the USA could ever become “energy independent”. We must face the reality that we will always need to import petroleum, however, we can make efforts to lower the total amount we need to buy.

One way to do so is to begin apportioning those fossil fuel resources we have more wisely. I don’t consider burning oil to produce electricity “wise” when we could burn coal for that purpose instead, and use the petroleum we do have available for different applications (such as vehicle power, lubricants, plastics, and other related industrial processes where petroleum is absolutely necessary.

Further, I don’t consider it “wise use” to heat homes with oil, when other alternatives are available. No, I don’t think we’re going to see many “oil-to-coal” home heating conversions, nor would I advocate them. But since we have expanding reserves of natural gas, I -could- foresee infrastructure improvements to make gas more available for home heating. Water-based geothermal heating is more expensive (by roughly a factor of 2x) than “old-style” heating/air conditioning designs, but offers all kinds of advantages once installed. Here’s one area where tax credits and rebates promote building decisions that are wise for long-term energy strategies, and should be encouraged.

Other posters have suggested a top priority of the Romney administration should be restoring America to a state of “energy health”. I agree….

First steps:
- End the war on coal
- Promote coal instead
- Build the Keystone pipeline and put more pipelines “into the construction pipeline”!


32 posted on 11/05/2012 9:35:28 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: struggle
He could be the new Reagan.

Mitt, liberal GOP intern in his teens, son of a liberal republican governor and presidential candidate, and a liberal mother who was a republican Senate candidate, formally left the republican party in 1979 because of his revulsion at Reagan, and did not return to it until October, 1993, after becoming a Democrat supporter, fund raiser, and voter.

Mitt is not likely to become the "new Reagan" (sarc), the GOP establishment and the Romney machine has done every thing they can to erase, destroy, marginalize, the new Reagan, the Governor from Alaska, and Reaganism reborn, in the tea party, and it may have worked.

33 posted on 11/05/2012 10:24:19 AM PST by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: Walkingfeather
1) Romney will continue the status quo with Iran, just MORE sanctions, which are totally useless and will do nothing to prevent Iran from engineering nukes

2) Romney will break his promise on China

3) Romney will break his promise and simply “reform” Obamacare

4) Romney will keep the wolves from Goldman Sachs in the White House just like Obama did

34 posted on 11/05/2012 1:46:15 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: jackmercer
I agree completely.

We sometimes as conservatives fall for the liberal logic that one man, or one government, can solve all our ills. I think we shouldn't expect anyone, even another Reagan to wave their magic wand and make jobs appear.

All Romney can do really is stand out of the way the best he can and let the private sector work out the kinks in the economy. Sadly we have spent all the Bush and Obama years building in moral hazard to our largest institutions that they have no incentive to behave in rationally economic manner.

If Romney stands out of the way and gives signals that there will be no more bail outs that will be a great start, but it takes times even for good policy to start working.

35 posted on 11/05/2012 1:51:44 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Walkingfeather
Vanitay: After Romney Wins

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36 posted on 11/05/2012 2:13:52 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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To: Paine in the Neck

I think that is a great idea. Maybe it should be held right after the inauguration.


37 posted on 11/05/2012 3:22:02 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Road Glide
I think you misunderstood. I mean converting coal into oil. Not changing oil fired heaters into coal heaters. And we can become energy independent...any time we choose to. We have plenty of all forms of energy whenever we decide to use it. I am in complete agreement with ending the war on coal. And I expect that to happen after Mitt takes office.
38 posted on 11/05/2012 4:07:21 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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