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Posted on 11/07/2012 12:46:11 AM PST by MacMattico

You know what? We lost the Presidency by 1% and the Senate by a little more. Allen West and Mia Love lost, but I'm not going to be part of the "blame Mitt" crowd that two days ago thought he was great. And if you couldn't vote for the "moderate Mormon" then pat yourself on the back-- you didn't vote for the loser. But you helped the communist thug to stay in charge and run wild.

With that said, we need to stop blaming each other and separating our party and unite against the true villains-- a viscous, lying Chicago thug machine that painted it's opponent as a killer of women who cares about no one, we need to tell Bill Clinton to shut the hell up and WE should have called him out when he was Obozo's outreach to the women's vote. Of course he's all for free birth control, the rapist! We need to blame the media-- how can you win with 24/7 news coverage painting your candidates as psychos? When your opponent promises most of the electorate free stuff? It's time to get up, dust ourselves off, and fight back. Reach out to legal Latinos and blacks and show them what real conservatism is-- they have no idea, they've been fed lies their whole life. Organize our youth -- there are many proud, smart, young conservatives out there. We need to rebuild a conservative movement, but not at the cost of picking each other off one by one. We'll just lose by more next time.


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To: A CA Guy

Exactly. Reagan couldn’t win today. Country has changed. Look at the what the people voted for today around this nation. Huge shift.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 12:59:06 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: MacMattico

We can start by not going to Massachusetts for the most liberal republican presidential candidates in history.

“I think Bill Weld comes as close as anyone,” Romney said when asked whom in his party he aligned with.

“I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush,”

“I’m not a partisan politician. My hope is that, after this election, it will be the moderates of both parties who will control the Senate, not the Jesse Helmses.”


22 posted on 11/07/2012 12:59:39 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney not only reelected Obama, he lost the Senate,ruined the "down ticket", West, Mia Love, Brown.)
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To: MacMattico

We did come up with bold plans.

We were trampled by our side.

I saw Mitt go after Newt harder than he EVER went after Obama.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 12:59:39 AM PST by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: MacMattico

Nice post, but good luck. When Obama nominates some ACLU red diaper doper baby to SCOTUS we will have plenty of FReepers here to tell us that Romney would have nominated someone worse.

Sorry, I know you are extending the olive branch here, but we are deeply divided against the wall of reality. To capture the Latino vote the GOP can’t be seen as anti-immigrant so if they oppose immigration reform they may lose any chance of gaining the White House. If the GOP supports immigration reform to try and peel off some Hispanics they lose part of the base who then vents about it further cementing Hispanics and democrats together.

Political correctness, the rule of law, political dogma, and irrefutable math for future elections all collide and it will be impossible for the GOP to juggle this mess to the satisfaction of the base.

Same thing with entitlement reform.... people who talk about cutting your benefits are never going to be popular with you. The democrats promise to increase entitlements so they are the party of “yes” and the GOP is the party of “no.” This is bad retail politics. Just read a thread on social security here on FR... it is a 3rd rail of politics for a reason, but without addressing all entitlements we will go bankrupt.

The Tea Party can sweep off-year elections, but we just learned today that while they are influential, they are not decisive in Presidential elections.

I wish I had the answer. I do know this... we could elect the most conservative candidate in the world and he/she could implement all the cuts and fiscal austerity measures to balance our budget and the GOP would get clobbered in the mid-terms and lose in the following election to the same type of socialist that France just elected for the same reason. That my FRiend, is why our republic is doomed.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 1:00:23 AM PST by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: cherry

Not massive fraud, it was a bought and paid for electorate through the give-aways of a government party.

And when the nation crashes, all that could be left is one government party. So rather than ever let the USA be a heavenly place, they are quite happy to let it all go to hell as long as they are ruling in hell.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 1:01:17 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

“They fielded a candidate that should have won.”

Nope, we failed for the same reason that the North didn’t knock the South out of the war early on.

The commanders. We’ve had two different commanders, both with the same terrible strategy. Time for a new plan and an actually conservative leader.

“probably Reagan could have lost tonight”

Attitude like that will get you everywhere in life, son.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 1:02:30 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Essie

The odds of a President being re-elected with a bad economy are low. When Takers > Producers that convention doesn’t apply. The game is rigged. Both parties are rotten to the core as they both enabled this.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 1:02:35 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: MacMattico

Hear, hear, I totally agree. Obama barely won. Nothing changed in congress, though a few poor senate candidates were elected...huge missed opportunity.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 1:03:10 AM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Tzimisce

TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOUR TAGLINE!!!!!


29 posted on 11/07/2012 1:04:14 AM PST by jocon307
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To: MacMattico

You’re definitely not alone. I place no blame with Mitt Romney. He had no chance from the start, not because of who he was, but because of what the country has become.

Face it guys, we are now a large minority, like the Copts in Egypt, and you should prepare to be treated in a similar way.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 1:05:15 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: MacMattico

No one in their right mind could blame Mitt. He gave us a special view of a renewed dream of America, the America we knew in the past. It is gone for now but maybe not gone forever.


31 posted on 11/07/2012 1:05:45 AM PST by Calpublican
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To: Tzimisce

It was also a huge mistake to not have Sarah Palin speak at the RNC. The only true conservatives they had were Santorum and Mia Love (I may be mistaken on this and someone correct me if I am).

They also pulled a trick about seating the delegates themselves, which angered the Paulbots. Heck, maybe they voted for zero for revenge.

Mitt was also one of the first ones to decry Todd Akin and say he should resign. In that case, I have to agree with zero - he fired before he aimed. He should have kept his mouth shut.

All the little red flags were there that he didn’t embrace the conservatives. He refused to go on any conservative talk shows, other than Sean Hannity and that was during the primaries. I think he distanced himself from the tea party, and it cost him dearly.

Who knows? Maybe this will somehow work out. I don’t feel that right now, but I want to put on a smiley face right now.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 1:07:23 AM PST by Catsrus (WANT)
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To: cherry
massive fraud....organized massive fraud on many levels...that is the explanation because I truly believe this was Mitt’s win...

Agreed. From the judges, to not allowing the military votes, to 1000s of multiples votes in high electoral states, to voting machines malfunctioning. Also, the media coverups, the lies about numbers all the way along.

I think in actuality Mitt won. We will never know. I expect there to be no one to check and no one to enforce laws much longer. I cannot sleep for thinking about this.

33 posted on 11/07/2012 1:09:24 AM PST by madison10
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To: cherry
"a World War and a draft will get these idiots to sit up and notice...."

I was amazed that fiscal cliff was not mention in this campaign at all. I mean we only have money for a few more weeks and then the world comes to an end. And no one brings that up in a political campaign? I am curious how Obama is going to avoid sequestration. Guess everyone knows that the GOP will cave in and void the deal make with Obama last debt ceiling raise time.

34 posted on 11/07/2012 1:10:08 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Essie

Can I explain it? Sure! FRAUD. feel better?


35 posted on 11/07/2012 1:10:45 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Reagan couldn’t even get elected these days to his old Gov job in California.

That isn’t an insult to Reagan, it is just how bad those voting are today and IMO you vastly under estimate the power of the government party giving away the treasury through government employment or the dole to tens of millions of people.

I am a realist. Just the facts. I am not blind to what I see has unfolded before me during my last five decades I’ve been voting through (thank you very much)

So much has changed and we also have the wave of people from the south that all also believe in a government party.

Sucks, but it is what it is.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 1:12:16 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: 5thGenTexan
I'm with you, but if conservatives push the GOP totally away we fragment our vote and instead of Obama we get Stalin next time, not that there would be much difference. I know of no Republicans that would have a problem voting for a reasoned, logical, charismatic conservative (think Reagan) but putting up below par conservative candidates like the ones making stupid rape remarks, Sharon Angle and the “I am not a witch” chick did nothing for conservative outreach or to help us take the senate. Allen West may have lost his gerrymandered district, but he is the type of candidate that conservatives need to bring forward and support, and I think Republicans would also love someone like that. We need outreach and education of the conservative cause, grassroots, because our kids and others aren't getting it from anywhere else.
37 posted on 11/07/2012 1:14:38 AM PST by MacMattico
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To: fortheDeclaration

Sadly, I have to agree with you.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 1:14:38 AM PST by texaschick
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To: 5thGenTexan
I'm with you, but if conservatives push the GOP totally away we fragment our vote and instead of Obama we get Stalin next time, not that there would be much difference. I know of no Republicans that would have a problem voting for a reasoned, logical, charismatic conservative (think Reagan) but putting up below par conservative candidates like the ones making stupid rape remarks, Sharon Angle and the “I am not a witch” chick did nothing for conservative outreach or to help us take the senate. Allen West may have lost his gerrymandered district, but he is the type of candidate that conservatives need to bring forward and support, and I think Republicans would also love someone like that. We need outreach and education of the conservative cause, grassroots, because our kids and others aren't getting it from anywhere else.
39 posted on 11/07/2012 1:14:48 AM PST by MacMattico
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To: Segovia

And add to it the fact that the republican party cannot seem to get the black or hispanic vote. The republican party is stuck in the mud and I for one am not spinning with them anymore.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 1:17:30 AM PST by texaschick
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