Diax,
I’m happy that you’ve posted a statement. However, and with respect, your examples are anecdotal and I have equal examples to the contrary.
If you have a moment, please post your particular reasons for voting for Obama (i.e. his economic plan, his vision for Afghanistan, &c.).
As he laid out no specifics during his campaign I am curious if you, yourself, know - or if you are simply a Partisan voting on faith of Party.
Also, are you proud that Democrats are known as the Party of voter fraud? And if you are not, then would you be willing to help fix the problem? I have some organizations that I could turn you to.
Noamie,
Thanks for reaching out to have a discussion. I’m happy to try in good faith to have the discussion, but I can already sense before we begin that the discussion with be very difficult if we don’t acknowledge up front that we are coming from very different “world views” or “narratives”. Your conservative narrative includes not just strongly held beliefs about the correctness of various conservative ideals, values and policies. It also includes a distorted view of what the liberal narrative is. Your understanding of the liberal narrative comes not from what liberals themselves believe, but from what other conservatives believe about liberals.
And of course, the same is true to for me — my understanding of the conservative narrative is a distorted one. For example, whenever I take some time to listen to Bill O’Reilly, or Rush Limbaugh, or Sarah Palin, or Ann Coulter, I am continually thrown off-balance because they seem to be speaking with sincerity yet most of the claims they make seem at best to be only half-true.
Does what I have said here so far make sense? Do you agree that your understanding of my world view, my narrative, is at best a significant distortion of what I actually believe? I fully accept that my understanding of your conservative world view must also be likewise distorted.
If we can’t start the discussion with that basic agreement, then it seems to me that there is no point in having a discussion. Because otherwise we will both tend to reinterpret everything the other person says to fit our own distorted understanding.
To try to answer your requests, let me say that I am a secular humanist and highly value science as the best means of understanding truth about the world/universe. I believe that all people should be treated equally regardless of gender or race. I believe that our constitution is a brilliant but imperfect document. I believe that the United States is still the greatest country on earth, even though it is no longer the greatest country when measured on a variety of important metrics. I believe that the two party system and the electoral college are deeply flawed. I believe that congress now suffers from institutional corruption that seriously affects members of congress from both parties, but it affects the Republican party somewhat more than Democratic party because the GOP is more overtly pro business and pro upper class whereas the Dems are stronger advocates for the middle and lower class.
Given all of the above, Obama and the Democratic party are far better aligned with my beliefs and motivations than Romney and the Republican party. With the current state of two party politics in this country, I fully expect that every election will be one where I vote for “the lesser of two evils”. In this particular election, I didn’t hesitate to choose Obama.
Finally, let me say that if you think the Democratic party is “known as the party of voter fraud” then I strongly suspect that you get nearly all of your information from very conservative sources. Republican efforts to disenfranchise voters have been far more effective than any of the claims of Democratic vote fraud.
By the way, do you know what the “begging the question” fallacy is, and do you see how it applies to how you phrased your question about voter fraud?