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Freeper Advice needed, I'd like to move out of Pennsylvania, Texas looks good
Myself | 11-07-2012 | Nowhere Man

Posted on 11/07/2012 1:17:12 PM PST by Nowhere Man

I'd consider other Red areas too.


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I'm 46 and have a background in IT, some accounting, general office work but I will be willing to do anything like retail or whatever my skills will let me do. I have my mother, mid 70's and 2 cats as well. I'm considering getting out of this Democratic Hell-Hole and looking for like minded people and businesses. I'm looking for advice.
1 posted on 11/07/2012 1:17:18 PM PST by Nowhere Man
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To: Nowhere Man

I’d also like to move out of Virginia to Texas. Unfortunately, I’m about $50k underwater in my mortgage so it isn’t happening anytime soon.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 1:19:39 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: Nowhere Man

Although Austin is a high tech mecca, it is ground zero for libtards in Texas. The Tyler and Dallas areas are excellent. The Woodlands north of Houston is nice and convenient to George Bush International Airport. Forget the Rio Grand Valley.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 1:20:20 PM PST by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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To: Nowhere Man

A lot of company’s left the liberal northeast and headed south, many to the state of Texas. The job market in Texas is great.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 1:20:30 PM PST by Arcy (When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, people groan.)
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To: Nowhere Man

You should really look at Utah. Has the 4 seasons like Penns. Economy is good. Nebraska is where my Son moved to. He’s in Lincoln...loves it..the dollar goes along way there. Those 2 places I’d consider.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 1:20:41 PM PST by maineman (BC EAGLES FAN)
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To: Nowhere Man

By a stroke of luck,I was born right here in Texas. And it’s a good place to be, we have some of the same garbage you have, just not as much. Employment situation isn’t too bad in Texas right now, either, especially with a boom in oilfield activity.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 1:21:47 PM PST by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Nowhere Man
I'd like to move out of Pennsylvania, Texas looks good.

Well, you are already used to humidity so that should not be a consideration.

7 posted on 11/07/2012 1:21:57 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Consider Arizona. If the temps scare you, Flagstaff/Prescott are much cooler.

You may make less, but you will spend less.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 1:21:57 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Nowhere Man

Hell Yes! Move as fast as you can. I moved from PA. years ago and glad I did.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 1:22:07 PM PST by baddog 219
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To: Nowhere Man

Time to prepare to be in the LEAST dangerous place when it comes to repelling the inevitable government assault on we Americans. My advice is ‘go wherever Glenn Beck goes’; That’s Texas! I’m looking at that now.. Hard to break away from family, but.. I do NOT believe 0bama won this election. It was stolen from us.. They say Republican turnout was lower than in 2008 for McCain? LOL! Of COURSE they have to tell us that to explain the 0bama win. WE KNOW THIS IS NOT TRUE.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 1:22:21 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Nowhere Man

See “Escape from California,” posted earlier.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 1:22:36 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Nowhere Man

Texans still has to pay off the DNC vote buys.

Canada is far and away more what America used to be.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 1:23:54 PM PST by NoLibZone ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic")
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To: Nowhere Man

Austin and environs are great for IT. Unfortunately, it’s also the most liberal section of Texas. San Antonio has a lot of military/government contractors and if you have/can get security clearances, Air Force ISR Agency and a couple of 3-letter agencies have presences here as well.

Come on down, the place is boomin’!


13 posted on 11/07/2012 1:24:00 PM PST by jagusafr
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To: Nowhere Man

Do you want a large city or small one, say 100,000 people? Dallas, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio are all doing fairly well. As far as the smaller towns, try Waco, Tyler, Longview, or Corpus Christi. It depends on what type of climate you like. If you are a High Plains drifter, then it would be Lubbock, Amarillo, Midland / Odessa (oil), Abilene, or San Angelo. Midland is a boom town as it is in the middle of a large oil basin.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 1:24:07 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: Nowhere Man

Job boards:

http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=&l=Dallas-Fort+Worth%2C+TX

http://www.jobvertise.com/jobs/search?query=&city=76208&radius=60&state=&button=Search+Jobs

http://dallas.craigslist.org/jjj/


15 posted on 11/07/2012 1:24:22 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Nowhere Man

We have to out population the leftists and the hispanics somehow, so come on in


16 posted on 11/07/2012 1:24:42 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Arcy

South Texas is expecting a lot of job growth due to the Eagle Ford shale oil business.

http://www.rigzone.com/news/oil_gas/a/121633/Eagle_Ford_Jobs_to_Grow_Evolve_As_Play_Enters_Production_Phase


17 posted on 11/07/2012 1:26:00 PM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: wolfman23601

No worries.. Your 50k underwater disappears when the economy collapses as planned by 0bama. The ONLY reason the job market in Texas is good is because Texas is the only American state left in the union. They SHOULD secede and build a massive border fence and purchase 4 patriot missile systems for 0bama’s incoming drones. He’s had PLENTY of practice in Pakistan.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 1:26:00 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Nowhere Man

Canada has a far lower corp tax rate and doesn’t suffer from politics solely based on slavery.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 1:26:04 PM PST by NoLibZone ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic")
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To: Nowhere Man

I don’t know. A couple more years of Obama’s open borders and Texas will be a blue state as well.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 1:26:15 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Nowhere Man

Texas is going to end up being the reddest red state as the productive class moves in. I lived there once and will consider a return as this thing deteriorates.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 1:27:21 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: Nowhere Man
I know how you feel. I have a similar background but am younger by a decade. I'm in the Dem cesspool in Jersey with our "Republican" Judas running the show. I'm looking for the same type of advice. I did find this: Conservative-friendly counties.

And to anyone in a red state or county who replies to this, I want to say that I have NO interest in bringing my state's blue politics with me. Wherever I go, I will assimilate.

22 posted on 11/07/2012 1:27:48 PM PST by needmorePaine
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To: Nowhere Man

Have you considered Georgia? Nice weather, nice people.

Oklahoma also seems OK, Alabama has some beautiful coast (but hurricanes), FL panhandle is far away from Miami


23 posted on 11/07/2012 1:34:21 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Nowhere Man

Forget Texas - it’s turning into a lost cause. Your best bet is the American Redoubt States - Wyoming, Idaho, Montana and Utah. And maybe the Dakotas.

Too many liberals and illegals moving in here. With the way the election just went, Texas will be a blue state within 10-15 years.

I’ve been here for 10 years, and I can see the writing on the wall. I’m in the Hill Country, and crime is increasing on a daily basis. I’m in a small, sleepy town, and we’ve had 4 homes broken into in my neighborhood in the last two weeks.

I’ve already started looking for a job in another state. Texas isn’t what it used to be - just getting worse.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 1:36:48 PM PST by Biff55 (A furore Normanorum libera nos, O Domine!)
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To: Nowhere Man
SanAn north of 410, lower Hill Country. Look at Boerne, Fair Oaks Ranch.

Two abysmally hot months every summer, damn pleasant the rest of the year.

25 posted on 11/07/2012 1:41:02 PM PST by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: Biff55
Too many liberals and illegals moving in here. With the way the election just went, Texas will be a blue state within 10-15 years.

Good GOD Almighty. If you're right (and I have no reason to doubt you) we are totally screwed. Pat Buchanan sounded the alarm years ago about all this open borders crap.

26 posted on 11/07/2012 1:42:11 PM PST by Marathoner (Let America burn. IDGAF anymore.)
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To: maineman
Nebraska is where my Son moved to.

My grandfather couldn't take Nebraska--the drought and bad economy drove him and his family out in 1894.

27 posted on 11/07/2012 1:42:21 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Nowhere Man

Texas welcomes any freedom loving patriot...! We have lots of IT jobs in DFW! Note to any liberal who may see this comment: Texas is really hot and there are tornadoes, rattle snakes, bobcats and coyotes every where! They even come in your house! It’s really dangerous, and we have evil SUVs everywhere, and we eat lots of meat.... And shoot guns....stay away!


28 posted on 11/07/2012 1:42:40 PM PST by Newton (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Nowhere Man

We would welcome you to east Texas. Beautiful country, wonderful people. Y’all come down, y’hear?


29 posted on 11/07/2012 1:44:09 PM PST by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: wolfman23601
I’d also like to move out of Virginia to Texas. Unfortunately, I’m about $50k underwater in my mortgage so it isn’t happening anytime soon.

That's an easy one. You buy a house while your credit is still good, then walk from the house where you are upside down.

If you have some cash but not all the cash needed for the new house, follow these steps.

- Stop making all payments on the house you are in, including insurance payments, and bank that money.

- Two or three months before the bank forecloses, find a "renter" for the house you are in and execute a minimum 2 year lease. Make the rent very low but not wildly unreasonable.

- Wait for the bank to foreclose. They will eventually contact you. Let them know about the lease agreement.

- Bank will offer a "cash for keys" payout to get you (your renter) out of the house.

- Add cash for keys money to your other funds.

You are already upside down by $50k so if you have to take out a mortgage for that amount you are no worse off.

I've got more than a few neighbors that moved across the street or up the block that way and traded up to a better floor plan in the subdivision.

30 posted on 11/07/2012 1:44:17 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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I was conceived in Texas (near the Waco-Temple area) during WWII, so I'm a native Texan by virtue of life starting at conception. Because my father died during the war, my mom had to relocate with relatives in the Pittsburgh district where I had the misfortune of having Pennsylvania forever listed on my birth certificate.

Even while growing up in Western Pennsylvania, I always had an affinity for what I knew to be my true home -- Texas. In elementary school, a sweet little Texan girl moved into the neighborhood since her dad worked for Gulf Oil, and Pittsburgh still was the corporate HQ. She had nice manners and a soft Southern accent. We used to wear our Confederate caps to school long before political correctness put an end to that. We even had Texas flag stickers on our lunch boxes. She further contributed to my longing to get back to where my life began.

Ultimately, after evaluating the many pros (and a few minor cons), I forever left Western Pennsylvania some four decades ago. Although there are some pockets of Christian Conservatism, the state is in the vice grip of Big Labor, the Democrat machine and has a culture of dependency. I just got tired of fighting an uphill battle and finally bailed -- but not before busting a union, the second happiest moment of my life, next to accepting Christ as my Lord and Savior.

I think I've done a good job of losing all traces of my Western Pennsylvania accent. And, while I did like the Steelers of the Chuck Noll era, the current regime of Dan Rooney and Mike Tomlin (both Obama supporters) led me to absolutely loathe the Black and Gold. It's easy for a Christian Conservative to adapt to the culture and manners of this most blessed of all states. The one and only thing that Pennsylvania has over Texas is a dearth of Mexicans. But if more good people such as you make Texas your home, we'll be able to keep them under control.

God Blessed Texas.


31 posted on 11/07/2012 1:45:17 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Austin is LA without a beach.

Houston has a gay mayor.

San Antonia has a LA Raza Mayor.

It’s not your fathers Texas.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 1:49:19 PM PST by NoLibZone ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic")
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To: Nowhere Man
Collin County, TX. #6
33 posted on 11/07/2012 1:49:35 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: Nowhere Man

I’m thinking somewhere near Houston, myself.


34 posted on 11/07/2012 1:49:58 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Problem is, my line of work usually requires a security clearance and it would be immediately revoked if I pulled something like that. I’ll just continue to be a good debtor until the hyperinflation hits, then pay off the mortgage with a wheel barrow full of worthless $100 bills.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 1:50:15 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: Nowhere Man

Richardson, north of Dallas but in Dallas County, has high tech.

Plano, north of Richardson, has a lot of Corp HQ and tech.

McKinney is a nice place to live (voted #2 on best places to live 2012).

Frisco, west of Plano/Mckinney is also a nice place to live. As is Allen, between Plano and McKinney.

McKinney, Frisco and Plano are in Collin County, known as the most Conservative county in Texas.

Commutes between any of these towns are under an hour max.

No income tax, reasonable sales tax, high property tax compared to other states. School tax is linked to property and mostly stays in the individual district, with some being taken from rich and given to poor under a program called “Robin Hood”.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 1:51:30 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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My wife and I are thinking the same thing. Texas or Tennessee. Gun laws are a big deal to me, though. I’m not giving up my rights.

That and a job that pays what I’m making now - in manufacturing/process engineering.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 1:55:02 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Yep. Just moved from McKinney about 6 months ago, but not because it’s not a good place. It is.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 1:58:06 PM PST by JustaCowgirl (Revolutions are not born out of success, they are born out of despair)
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To: Nowhere Man

Middle and East Tennessee are a good choice (no state income tax on wages). We’re a Red State. My son lives in Knoxville (under 5% unemployment). Unfortunately, I live in West Tenn (Blue part of state). I have family here and my wife and I have good jobs here and within 7 years of retirement (I hope). We’ll be here awhile yet.


39 posted on 11/07/2012 2:01:42 PM PST by upbeat5
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To: Nowhere Man

Not to be bragging or anything, but Oklahoma for the second presidential race in a row went 100% red in all counties.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 2:02:05 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: wolfman23601

“hyperinflation hits, then pay off the mortgage with a wheel barrow full of worthless $100 bills.”

That’s assuming your employer will pay you the increased salary to make up for the hyperinflation...the government is more apt to take your money and issue currency at half value or more as opposed to issuing new currency at 10 times its value. It would all be done electronically anyway.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 2:03:37 PM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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To: Nowhere Man

Alabama is pretty nice. The cost of living is low and we just re-elected Roy Moore as Chief Justice. It is going to be interesting to see what Roy comes up with to rattle the left this time.


42 posted on 11/07/2012 2:08:43 PM PST by TonyM
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What kind of background in IT do you have? Are you a CCNA, A+, Security +, CCNP - what? If your background is strong enough, there are a few areas in Texas you might investigate further.


43 posted on 11/07/2012 2:10:55 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: Nowhere Man

Texas might be good, but my advice is to learn espanol. 0bama will throw open the borders (more than they are now!) and Texas will become Northern Mexico.


44 posted on 11/07/2012 2:12:23 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Never Underestimate the Power of Evil or Evil Doers)
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To: Newton
Maybe this will start picking up steam.... Texas Nationalist Movement
45 posted on 11/07/2012 2:18:18 PM PST by Newton (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Safrguns

I love Oklahoma :)


46 posted on 11/07/2012 2:20:23 PM PST by texas_mrs
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To: Nowhere Man

   Come on down, y'all.

47 posted on 11/07/2012 2:21:47 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Safrguns; Nowhere Man

I’ve been in Texas since 1985. Many lifelong Texas friends have or are moving to Oklahoma. Texas is turning Blue. May be time to head a little further North. We’re thinking about northern Arizona.


48 posted on 11/07/2012 2:24:35 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Actually, if we could just give Philadelphia to NJ, PA might be red.


49 posted on 11/07/2012 2:30:43 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: Fiji Hill

It has changed a bit since 1894, at least the economy. We have been pretty recession-proof this go-round. Unemployment around 4% or lower no matter what the national has been.


50 posted on 11/07/2012 2:30:57 PM PST by NEMDF
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