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Freeper Advice needed, I'd like to move out of Pennsylvania, Texas looks good
Myself | 11-07-2012 | Nowhere Man

Posted on 11/07/2012 1:17:12 PM PST by Nowhere Man

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To: Safrguns
Not to be bragging or anything, but Oklahoma for the second presidential race in a row went 100% red in all counties.

This time Oklahoma was joined by Utah and.....West Virginia! }:^0

51 posted on 11/07/2012 2:32:33 PM PST by Roccus
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To: Nowhere Man

I’m a year younger and originally from Western NY, my employer gave me an opportunity to move to TX 2 years ago for... drum roll... a job opportunity. I reside in the Dallas/Fort-Worth area. Worked out well since I always wanted to move someplace warmer before I retire and I had admired this red State from 1500 miles away for quite some time.

Here’s what I find:

1. There are lots of jobs, and lots of competition for them in a major metro. I’d say this is good - better to live somewhere with more opportunities than less.

2. No State income tax. Instant raise.

3. Property taxes are lower... however, your home owner policy could cost more due to periodic storm damage. Mine increased about $500 due to the prior year’s storms. Which compares to a policy that in total cost less than $600 back in NY.

4. You can buy a lot more house for the money. It will be brick, newer, and likely be .25 acre or less. There will not be a basement so sell that record collection.

5. Cost of living - net neutral. Example: gasoline costs a little less, but electricity seems to cost more. Water bill is much higher. Food seems to cost a bit more, but that’s likely tied to other factors.

6. Don’t move your snow blower. If you do, confused people will look at it and wonder if it some kind of walk along combine. It’s moderate in the short winter (sky will actually be blue vs. months of gray). Summer is intensely hot. Get a pool and think of TX August as PA February (i.e. you might want to stay inside). Budget for higher utility bills in the Summer vs. Winter (electricity and water for the yard).

7. Schools are good to very good. As with most places, depends on where you live. Measurements of school and school district performance is available online. As always, how involved a parent is makes a difference.

8. You will not have to habla Espanol, but will have to learn proper y’all, dudn’t, etc. or they will think you’re from a foreign country. Like Oklahoma. Assimilate.

9. 2nd Ammendment is alive and well. It makes for a safer society. I’d imagine a criminal would think a little more about their career choice knowing there’s a greater likelihood of being ventilated by a gun owning homeowner.

10. Barbeque.

11. People here are awesome - friendly, respectful, and neighborly. People here are also proud to live here (think about that), kids are taught about their State history in school, folks here understand the fact that TX is the center of the universe.

12. Churches here rock - more outgoing, involved, and welcoming.

13. Fried Chicken. Various deep fried experimentation at the State Fair.

14. Lots to see and do here in DFW, across the State, and neighboring foreign States.

15. Shiner Beer. Garrison Brothers Bourbon.

The move has been good for my family, we miss family back home and some other things but moving here is an improvement in quality of life and perhaps more ‘future-proofing’ of our ability to earn a living.

Good luck.


52 posted on 11/07/2012 2:41:08 PM PST by Made In The USA (Obama may not be running on his record, but he sure as hell can't run from it.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Dear Nowhere Man,

Be of Good Cheer !!

Move from your blue state to a Battleground state — I give this advice to every hardcore Bluestater who is Red in his heart. We here in Virginia would love to give you our Southern hospitality. You might not experience this in nasty Northern Virginia. But you can know the rest of us in the state have our hearts with you. We could turn the tide our way with help from those like you. This would work with any other battleground state. Virginia is a wonderful place that is polluted with all this nasty Northern and Liberal poison. Come help us. Or help Ohio, Florida, Colorado, Pennsylvania, etc. But I really think Virginia is the best state to start with. We do not have far to go to regain the power of our beliefs.

God bless you,
Mrs. Esopmnan


53 posted on 11/07/2012 2:41:26 PM PST by esopman (Blessings on Freepers Everywhere and Their Most Intelligent Designer)
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To: Nowhere Man

Dear Nowhere Man,

Be of Good Cheer !!

Move from your blue state to a Battleground state — I give this advice to every hardcore Bluestater who is Red in his heart. We here in Virginia would love to give you our Southern hospitality. You might not experience this in nasty Northern Virginia. But you can know the rest of us in the state have our hearts with you. We could turn the tide our way with help from those like you. This would work with any other battleground state. Virginia is a wonderful place that is polluted with all this nasty Northern and Liberal poison. Come help us. Or help Ohio, Florida, Colorado, Pennsylvania, etc. But I really think Virginia is the best state to start with. We do not have far to go to regain the power of our beliefs.

God bless you,
Mrs. Esopmnan


54 posted on 11/07/2012 2:41:36 PM PST by esopman (Blessings on Freepers Everywhere and Their Most Intelligent Designer)
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To: wolfman23601

No, its okay. We just elected Obama. It is okay to milk the Feds via the banks.


55 posted on 11/07/2012 2:44:08 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Arcy

Really? Job market is good in Texas? What is a nice city to live in there? seriously.


56 posted on 11/07/2012 2:46:32 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Nowhere Man

I’d suggest you move to main, but they just banned suicide... (joke)


57 posted on 11/07/2012 2:49:18 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Safrguns

I just also noticed that Utah and West Virginia joined Oklahoma this time around in going solid “Red”.


58 posted on 11/07/2012 2:57:26 PM PST by hout8475
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To: hout8475

I think there must be a small blue zone in Utah around Salt Lake as Mia Love lost there.


59 posted on 11/07/2012 2:59:58 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: Nowhere Man

I would suggest Oklahoma over Texas .
Or Georgia or S Carolina or N Alabama over Texas .
The demographic tidal wave there will erupt in out lifetime .
Okla city or Tulsa are very nice


60 posted on 11/07/2012 3:02:23 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Nowhere Man

Chile, Sweden, Denmark??


61 posted on 11/07/2012 3:06:57 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (Conservatives needs to listen to the people...Social issues lost votes for the GOP)
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To: APatientMan

Tenn is wonderful .
Nashville or Knoxville or Chattanooga .
Keep away from
Memphis


62 posted on 11/07/2012 3:07:01 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: ncalburt

Thanks. I have an “In” in Knoxville. Seems like good, honest hard-working people there.


63 posted on 11/07/2012 3:10:07 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Nowhere Man

We moved to NW GA from the Lehigh Valley when I was 46. Took an IT job in Chattanooga, TN. We love it and tell folks all the time that we fled the Northeast, so I know exactly where you are coming from. We traded our 13-acre farm for a 60-acre farm and had extra money to boot. We love it!!


64 posted on 11/07/2012 3:11:06 PM PST by EagleInGA
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To: Nowhere Man

If you are socially humanist - anti-Christian - please don’t come to Texas. The reason we are not your state is because we still have Christian American-American morals and values in the public square - to an extent. Even in business. :)


65 posted on 11/07/2012 3:11:28 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Nowhere Man

No offense, but I have found that there are a lot of New England and NE US freepers who are as much a RINO as their politicans. If you meet the non-RINO requirement, we welcome you to Texas with open arms.


66 posted on 11/07/2012 3:17:10 PM PST by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Safrguns
Not to be bragging or anything, but Oklahoma for the second presidential race in a row went 100% red in all counties.

Hey that is something to brag about. Congratuations to the okies. Way to go.

67 posted on 11/07/2012 3:20:26 PM PST by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Grams A
We’re thinking about northern Arizona.

Flagstaff has pleasantly warm summers and is relatively free from severe weather, but its winters are as long and as cold as those in Vermont. Prescott's winters aren't quite as cold.

I drove through Winslow last summer, and it seemed to be economically depressed. Holbrook's economy seemed to be better. Show Low, to the south, also seemed to be a nice place to live.

68 posted on 11/07/2012 3:27:03 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: catfish1957

>>> Hey that is something to brag about. Congratuations to the okies. Way to go.

Thanks... Hopefully we’ll be the first to assert 10th ammendment rights and outlaw Obamacare.

I’m thinking Texas is allready poised to do this.
If we don’t, we’ll be looking at massive layoffs soon.


69 posted on 11/07/2012 3:29:00 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Nowhere Man

Hot temps and high humidity are your friends, in Texas. Be forewarned.


70 posted on 11/07/2012 4:00:06 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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All, thanks for the thoughts and ideas, I'm still looking for more of course. So much to consider. I have to digest it all. The Dakotas look good too although helping a battleground State is good too. I really have to do my homework.

Going a little OT here:

Safrguns, IIRC, I remember you from the games ping list. Ever play World of Tanks? The French AMX-40 tank looks like a duck. B-)

Sarah, I know we've gotten into some debates in the past, I'll be the first to admit I'm more of a libertarian wing (I'm more of a Paulie except on foreign policy) although I supported Romney all the way. I'm closer (with a little South Park tossed in) to a Barry Goldwater (except on abortion and Planned Parenthood, to deny life is to deny liberty so I'm pro-life) type than evangelical. Although personally I have high ethical/moral standards, I just think government should stay out of things. I just believe strongly in free will and the right for one to determine their morals as long as no one hurts another. I guess I'm a bit of a lone wolf here, runs in my family I guess.

We might differ in thought at times, but as Ronald Reagan says, the guy who agree with you 80% of the time is your friend. Both wings need to work together, we have more common ground than you think. No matter what, I will work as hard as I can and if the crap hits the fan, I'll fight alongside yuns.

Again, I want to thank you all.
71 posted on 11/07/2012 4:04:59 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: EagleInGA

My sweetheart & I lived in Marietta before job opportunities brought us to Ohio. We drove through our old stomping grounds recently on the return trip from a beach vacation, and fell in love again! We were thinking of moving northwest of Atlanta somewhere in the foothills, but like the OP have to get rid of this house that’s dragging us down (among other things). Our plan is to try to put the house up for sale in a year or two. We think it will take that long for us to get on our feet somewhat, especially with this election result. We long to live a semi-rural life but near the city within reason. The dream is to live where the backyard backs up to a lake. We don’t need 60 acres, but a few would be REALLY nice!


72 posted on 11/07/2012 4:07:20 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: Fiji Hill

My first love is Scottsdale, where my son was born, and then Sedona. There is one huge rock with what looks like a man standing on the top that is all mine! We’ve been to the Snow Bowl a couple of times to ski and have a very special restaurant in “downtown” Flagstaff. Whole lot less expensive at the Snow Bowl than Colorado and the grandsons loved it. But we’ve also seen times when there was absolutely no snow. We also like the proximity to the Grand Canyon, Las Vegas and California where we only go to visit for a day trip. We also like the White Mountains and Apache Trail area.

But then we spent a couple of weeks in Alabama and Mississippi on the coast and it was so nice to hear everyone speaking English for a change.

Just lots of options and wonderful people here in the U.S. if you look for them.


73 posted on 11/07/2012 4:30:42 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Nowhere Man

>>> Safrguns, IIRC, I remember you from the games ping list. Ever play World of Tanks? The French AMX-40 tank looks like a duck. B-)

lol yeah!... I drive a Chaffee and Sherman mostly. WOT and Minecraft are my favs right now.


74 posted on 11/07/2012 4:39:24 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Nowhere Man

I live in Pa as well. I am considering going Galt.

Anyone thinking the same way FRmail me.


75 posted on 11/07/2012 4:40:48 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (I advocate indentured servitude for the 47% until the national debt is eliminated.)
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To: wolfman23601

Just over five years ago we moved from Northern Virginia (Fairfax County) to North Mississippi, Desoto
County. There are no traffic jams, plenty of jobs and a climate not too different than that in Virginia.


76 posted on 11/07/2012 4:47:16 PM PST by billhilly
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To: Safrguns

I have a Sherman, the basic model, a FRench B1 (that’s a real slug), one M5 Stuart and 2 M3 Stuart, both US and Lend Lease versions. I also have the first British tank. What’s your name? I’m NowhereMan1966.


77 posted on 11/07/2012 4:49:31 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Nowhere Man

>>> What’s your name? I’m NowhereMan1966.

Ummm... its Safrguns ;)

We should start platooning.


78 posted on 11/07/2012 5:18:57 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Nowhere Man

I have lived in Texas all my life except my military years. I am sorry to say with the ever expanding Hispanic base Texas will be a blue state within the next 10 years.


79 posted on 11/07/2012 5:52:00 PM PST by longhorn too
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To: silverleaf

we are looking at Georgia...come next summer we hope to be relocated there..I’m going house shopping there in December...

Daughter lives there and son recently relocated to NC...so we will leave the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, the state of our birth, we left once before in our youth to find jobs and went to Ohio and lived there 52 years...returned here in retirement and the worst mistake we ever made...

so it won’t be difficult for us to leave PA.


80 posted on 11/07/2012 6:58:07 PM PST by haircutter
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To: Norm Lenhart

Flgstff has a high concentration of Liberals with maybe one or two gunshops. Prescott is a retiree community but has J&G sales - an internet firearms and ammo company.


81 posted on 11/07/2012 7:35:26 PM PST by Redcitizen (A good pun is its own reword.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Re-think Pennsylvania. Housing is very affordable and real-estate and school taxes are ridiculously low. Income tax rates are very low. It’s one of the best states for retirees in terms of taxes, cost of living and great hospitals. If Obama cripples coal and fracking, housing will be even cheaper. You can raise crops from April 1 to Nov. 1.


82 posted on 11/07/2012 8:48:14 PM PST by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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To: Safrguns

OK, I’ll friend you and we can platoon. BTW, that first UK tank is a slug. I hear 8.2 is coming out soon, Red Chinese tanks.


83 posted on 11/08/2012 4:00:15 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: namvolunteer

Good points, if I stay in Penna, I would not mind moving north to a Red area like around Hermitage. I like the 444 flags there and Mom loves the Kraynak’s store.


84 posted on 11/08/2012 4:03:23 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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