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Am I Being Vindictive and/or Petty? (Vanity Post)
MplsSteve

Posted on 11/07/2012 1:27:47 PM PST by MplsSteve

I have an uncle in Wisconsin. He's slightly mentally handicapped and lives in subsidized housing because of his income level.

In tribute to my Grandma (who's been gone a number of years and of whom I still miss), I send my uncle a check every month. The check is only $30.00. I believe he uses it for living expenses that aren't covered by assistance. I rarely get an acknowledgement/thank you from him - unless of course, I'm late in mailing it out.

My uncle voted for Obama. Normally, I say "Live and let live" and let it go at that. But I am thinking about telling him that effective 1/01/13, that I'm cutting his monthly check from $30.00 to $15.00 because of the impending increase in taxes that I'll be paying as a result of Barack Obama's policies.

Given that my uncle is slightly mentally handicapped, I'm wavering about this. I don't wanna appear like a cad but at the same time, I don't wanna be taken for granted and want him to know that actions have consequences.

What would you do?


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To: MplsSteve
About 6 years ago, my wife's company was bought out, and she and a number of other people were laid off. One of her friends at the company eventually used up all her savings and became destitute, so we let her move in with us. I told my wife before we let her move in that this might be a bad experience, but we should do it anyway. Sure enough in short order, we came to realize that she was taking us for granted. She claimed that she was looking for work, but somehow never took anything. Nonetheless she was always on time at the dinner table. Eventually my wife couldn't take it anymore, and set a deadline. Like clockwork she found a job and moved out. She never talked to us a again, but we learned a few years later that she died of stomach cancer. At end, I'd do it again. It's one small way that I have obeyed Jesus, because he died for me when I didn't deserve it either. Just keep sending it in spite of the ingratitude because it will please the Lord, and his opinion is the only one that matters.
51 posted on 11/07/2012 2:04:12 PM PST by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: MplsSteve

Steve,

I absolutely understand how you feel. I have gotten fed up with people in the past because they never say thank you or even acknowledge gifts, help, etc.

The only problem I would have if I were in this situation is the fact that he’s somewhat mentally handicapped. The reason I say that is below...

My husband and I were in a restaurant Monday evening and in the booth behind my husband were 2 men, one early 20’s and the other in his 30’s, maybe 40’s and the older one some sort of mental disability ~ it was fairly obvious.

As their conversation progressed and became louder I quickly realized the younger man was trying to convince this other man to vote for Obama. All kinds of ideas were being thrown at this man and you could tell that he wasn’t taking them all in by the comments he was making and questions he was asking.

The younger man just kept talking and dumping more and more stuff on the older man. As they walked out I heard the older man say that he was voting for Obama and thanks for helping him realize what a great President we had.

I just shared this story because for all we know, your uncle may have been browbeaten or “convinced” the way that we overheard at dinner. That would be my hesitation.


52 posted on 11/07/2012 2:05:23 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: MplsSteve
No, I don't think you would be vindictive or petty.
You would be an asshat. Sweet and simple.
53 posted on 11/07/2012 2:05:30 PM PST by Tupelo (Republicans, ...Are any of them worthy of my vote?)
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To: MplsSteve
Normally, I say "Live and let live" and let it go at that.

Good idea.

54 posted on 11/07/2012 2:05:50 PM PST by x
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To: All

On a related subject, I told my away at college son he owes me $68 in bus fare today because of how he voted. Am I being vindictive?

A little info, I gave him a request for an early ballot which he never filled out. So I paid for him to take the Greyhound bus home so he could vote on Sunday. (I also took him out to two nice dinners while he was home, I am not billing him for those). Yesterday he texts me this:

“I voted for Gary Johnson, because finance for third parties directly correlates to proportion of votes, and I’m a secular libertarian”.

I am not someone who supports voting for third parties, so if he wants to do that, he should do it on his own libertarian dime not mine. Ultimately, he will only be giving me back the $68 out of the money I give him to live on this semester, but it’s the point of the matter. He can vote how he likes, of course, but he can pay for the bus fare out of the money he has to live on not the money I have to live on.

Vindictive? Petty?


55 posted on 11/07/2012 2:06:24 PM PST by FarmerW ( - Milton Friedman - The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.)
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To: MplsSteve

My family is full of Demcrats. I despise the Kenyan thug and everything he is and stands for. I wouldn’t give up my cousins and other relatives for anything. I think you should make accommodation for your uncle. He needs you. Are Democrats going to replace that $30 a month if you stop?


56 posted on 11/07/2012 2:06:33 PM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine .)
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To: MplsSteve

It’s always good policy to vent your anger on family members and the mentally challenged.

What could possibly be wrong with that idea?


57 posted on 11/07/2012 2:07:39 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (With (R)epublicans like these, who needs (D)emocrats?)
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To: MplsSteve

Why are you giving him money? If he honestly needs it and you can afford to do so, then keep doing it. It comes down to family to take care of family in the end for those of us lucky enough to have a family.


58 posted on 11/07/2012 2:07:42 PM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: x1stcav
I am contemplating this with a sister who has campaigned for 0bama. I generally am in contact with her by email (also my other sister, 3 way messages) most every day. I am not sure how to cut the one off, not the other. I am so angry today. And I cannot understand due to she is pretty financially conservative, and son is about to go into the USAF on an 8 year deal. How are you or how do you plan to shun the people? Will you tell them it is over? or just be unavailable?
59 posted on 11/07/2012 2:09:47 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: MplsSteve; navymom1

“Nobility beats hostility every time . . .” Nice sentiment, but look where that got us today. Sometimes nobility needs to give way to hostility (are you listening, Mitt?). Do you have any other contact with him other than sending him a monthly check? Is he “family” or just a relative? Are you sending it out of kindness or guilt?

And, navymom1, I feel your pain. Everyone on my wife’s side of the family is a big lib. My SIL thinks BO is cute, handsome and even sexy. They are in Oregon....and one of the reasons we are in Texas.


60 posted on 11/07/2012 2:14:15 PM PST by Donkey Odious
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To: MplsSteve; navymom1

“Nobility beats hostility every time . . .” Nice sentiment, but look where that got us today. Sometimes nobility needs to give way to hostility (are you listening, Mitt?). Do you have any other contact with him other than sending him a monthly check? Is he “family” or just a relative? Are you sending it out of kindness or guilt?

And, navymom1, I feel your pain. Everyone on my wife’s side of the family is a big lib. My SIL thinks BO is cute, handsome and even sexy. They are in Oregon....and one of the reasons we are in Texas.


61 posted on 11/07/2012 2:14:22 PM PST by Donkey Odious
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To: MplsSteve

My grandmother was the sweetest person in the world. All she had for information in the nursing home was MSM. She thought Reagan was evil. You may have a similar situation.


62 posted on 11/07/2012 2:14:39 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: MplsSteve

My grandmother was the sweetest person in the world. All she had for information in the nursing home was MSM. She thought Reagan was evil. You may have a similar situation.


63 posted on 11/07/2012 2:15:30 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: MplsSteve

“Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers...”


64 posted on 11/07/2012 2:16:57 PM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: MplsSteve

Given his reduced capacity, one can possibly forgive his ignorance.

I personally have resolved to no longer tolerate any liberals or democrats. I intend to ask anyone seeking anything from me whether they voted for Obama or not. If they did, I will give them nothing and I refuse to associate with them. They are leading to the destruction of this country and I cannot provide any help or cover for them.


65 posted on 11/07/2012 2:19:15 PM PST by Laserman
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To: MplsSteve

Yes, you are being vindictive and petty.

He is a lot more dependent on the government than on your $30 a month check. And he’s mentallly ill. Given Ryan’s talk about cutting entitlements, if I was in his position, I’d probably be voting democrat.

He’s voting to protect his interests, and it’s not about you or your $30.

When the GOP gets it’s act together and starts focusing on jobs and quits threatening entitlements, then maybe you can talk some sense to him. But until then continue helping him and don’t take his vote personally.


66 posted on 11/07/2012 2:22:11 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: x1stcav

My plan exactly!


67 posted on 11/07/2012 2:22:41 PM PST by Laserman
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To: MplsSteve

It’s your money to do with as you please. It’s your choice and you will have to live with it, either way. It is not for me or anyone here to criticize you for what you choose to do with your property as long as it does not involve illegal/immoral (i.e., harm to others) activity.


68 posted on 11/07/2012 2:24:27 PM PST by chimera
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To: NEMDF

Going Galt.


69 posted on 11/07/2012 2:27:55 PM PST by x1stcav (Breathe deep the gathering gloom.)
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To: LadyBuck

Good for you.

Welcome to reality, kid.


70 posted on 11/07/2012 2:27:55 PM PST by Salamander (Wounded, old and dangerous.)
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To: Laserman

I’m doing it in stages.

Disconnected the land line today with no forwarding.

Got a reagan.com email address and so tomorrow the old earthlink address goes.

Going Galt.

This includes a child even.

Last time I did this was in the early 70’s after I got back from the Nam. Then, around ‘79, I relented.

Not this time.


71 posted on 11/07/2012 2:32:08 PM PST by x1stcav (Breathe deep the gathering gloom.)
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To: GeronL

But “Nobility beats hostility every time . . .” worked so well yesterday.

/s

I’m sorry but I’m done.

If anybody wants a new best phone friend, I’m available for fequent chats.

I can no longer deal with the fact that my current best phone friend eagerly voted for 0, *knowing* it would destroy the home business that keeps us [barely] afloat.

And yes, I’m serious.

I’d love to have a nice, new, conservative dog-loving buddy to talk to in the evenings.


72 posted on 11/07/2012 2:32:13 PM PST by Salamander (Wounded, old and dangerous.)
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To: Salamander

isn’t that what Facebook is for?

dog and kitty lovers?


73 posted on 11/07/2012 2:36:46 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: stars & stripes forever; All

The problem is the government wants to take charge of those things now so that folks won’t feel any guilt regarding their moral circumstances as they might if such charity came from the churches and religious folks! Caesar has decreed that responsiblity for the poor belongs to the government...then render that responsibility unto Caesar for Caesar will be raising your taxes anyway for it!


74 posted on 11/07/2012 2:37:00 PM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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To: MplsSteve

You said you were doing it for your Grandma. So this isn’t really about him anyway. If its for her, keep sending it for her.

I have a crazy uncle who always votes GOP, but for reasons that are incomprehensible to me. Its OK, I don’t expect sophisticated reasoning from my crazy uncle. You shouldn’t either. If he was younger and more sane I’d cut him off. As it is, though, just be a good grandson and don’t sweat it.


75 posted on 11/07/2012 2:47:00 PM PST by marron
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To: LadyBuck

LadyBuck, I finally laughed today. Would love to have been a fly on the wall for THAT conversation.


76 posted on 11/07/2012 2:48:26 PM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: MplsSteve

“...I don’t wanna be taken for granted and want him to know that actions have consequences...”

Cut it in half in January and if he complains cut it all. Tell him truthfully that you can no longer afford it and will need every cent you have to cover the increased taxes you have to pay in 2013 and afterwards because Obama was reelected.

Your total justification is in your own words, quoted above.


77 posted on 11/07/2012 3:03:34 PM PST by Postman (........................................................I'm thinking! I'm thinking!!)
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To: MplsSteve

You are being wicked. Stop.


78 posted on 11/07/2012 3:06:30 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: MplsSteve

Well...BEFORE the election I told my nieces and nephew that if the DEMS and the O were elected any Financial Gifts would likely stop, as we will have to save for ourselves. (Trying to educate them for the past several years also...still not sure how they voted....but, THEY got the message.) And, I do not feel bad at all. Next comes the 18 yr old Grandson.


79 posted on 11/07/2012 3:08:51 PM PST by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: MplsSteve

I wouldn’t be blaming someone who is not all there for the deficiencies in the president or congress


80 posted on 11/07/2012 3:08:53 PM PST by Nifster
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To: MplsSteve

If he’s smart enough to complain when you are “late” sending the check, he’s smart enough to THANK YOU each time you send him money.

I would simply stop sending the money IMMEDIATELY without notice.


81 posted on 11/07/2012 3:11:28 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (Dems to Amerika : "All ur votes belong to us.")
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To: MplsSteve

Cut it if you actually have to for the reason stated but not out of a sense of vindictiveness or anger.


82 posted on 11/07/2012 3:18:41 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: MplsSteve

You didn’t mention your uncle’s age. It sounds like he might be over the hill. What kind of “lesson” can you teach an elderly person? Especially one with mental impairment?

I’d guess you probably STARTED the monthly checks out of compassion for your uncle. Don’t let disdain for his voting choice rob you of doing something noble. If you can still afford to do it; SEND it.

The law of reciprosity; What goes around comes around. God doesn’t pay off on Friday, so your return will come unannounced, and not necessarily in the form of cash. How about being blessed with good health, or a contented spirit? Things money can’t buy?

Proverbs 19:17 He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the LORD; and that which he hath given will he pay him again.


83 posted on 11/07/2012 3:21:00 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: MplsSteve

“Do not think that I came to bring peace on Earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household.”


84 posted on 11/07/2012 3:28:25 PM PST by 762X51
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To: MplsSteve

Have mercy on the feebleminded. Do right. I also have a cousin who is a bit retarded and votes “Dimocrat” every time. . blows her welfare check pretty much every month. I’ve helped her in the past anyway.


85 posted on 11/07/2012 3:37:05 PM PST by Twinkie (REMEMBER BENGHAZI !!!!)
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To: I still care

I wonder how many college kids were cut off today, and how many will drop out in the coming months. My son is working and will be going to Basic Training in January. But he voted “right”. :)


86 posted on 11/07/2012 3:42:59 PM PST by Marie Antoinette (:)
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To: GeronL

I hate Facebook.


87 posted on 11/07/2012 3:44:17 PM PST by Salamander (Wounded, old and dangerous.)
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To: MplsSteve

He’s one of the few Obama voters who has an excuse. Those who are not mentally handicapped are evil. Those who are handicapped should be forgiven.


88 posted on 11/07/2012 3:48:31 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Salamander

It’s insipid, takes up too much time and is very trivial.

Although my local news station did get about 20 rants from me this morning. lol


89 posted on 11/07/2012 3:49:51 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: MplsSteve

Sounds lucid enough to me if he complains when you’re late.

Cut the payment to $15, and when he complains, tell him the other $15 is his “fair share” demanded by President Obama. We all gotta have some skin in the game, Gramps!


90 posted on 11/07/2012 3:51:27 PM PST by kevao (Hey, Obama: The 1930s called, they want their economic policy back.)
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To: MplsSteve

$30 can’t cause a life or death situation anymore

these days its one trip to McDonlalds.

You are going to teach him a much better lesson if you say “Thanks to Obama I know have $4000 less per year and everything costs twice as much so I can’t afford it anymore”

add “Go Ask Obama for it”

I would NOT feel one bit of guilt over it


91 posted on 11/07/2012 3:55:40 PM PST by Mr. K (What The World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: outofsalt

Let’s not forget that eternal life is not based on acts, but only by faith.


92 posted on 11/07/2012 3:56:54 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: MplsSteve

You know what the right thing to do is, or you wouldn’t be asking.


93 posted on 11/07/2012 4:14:39 PM PST by divineA
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To: GeronL

It blows my mind that every time somebody scratches their arse or picks their nose, they feel a need to ‘share’ their late-breaking status update with the world.

Bizarre.


94 posted on 11/07/2012 4:39:37 PM PST by Salamander (Wounded, old and dangerous.)
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To: MplsSteve
I'm cutting his monthly check from $30.00 to $15.00 because of the impending increase in taxes that I'll be paying as a result of Barack Obama’s policies.

Since you will have much less money available because of tax increases, go ahead and explain that to him.

You'll probably be giving the Gov. way more than the $30/mth you were sending your uncle.

It's basic math.

It's not your fault...your fellow Americans decided “others” needed the money more than your Uncle did.
You have no choice.
Obama voters didn't give you one.

95 posted on 11/07/2012 4:55:13 PM PST by fanfan ("But if Muslims were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: DannyTN; MplsSteve

>> “Yes, you are being vindictive and petty.” <<

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Danny, you’re a total nut case.

Its not in anyone’s best interest to vote democrap.

Democraps have never kept a single promise; they just keep on repeaating the same old empty promise that they’ll never keep.

And nuts like you buy it hook, line, and sinker.


96 posted on 11/07/2012 4:58:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Laserman; MplsSteve

>> “Given his reduced capacity, one can possibly forgive his ignorance.” <<

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No one with limited mental capacity should be voting!

Get their registration cancelled. End of problem.


97 posted on 11/07/2012 5:08:35 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Salamander

ironically written on a Vanity post thread.


98 posted on 11/07/2012 5:09:19 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Salamander

>> “It blows my mind that every time somebody scratches their arse or picks their nose, they feel a need to ‘share’ their late-breaking status update with the world” <<

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Yep, this place should be renamed “Farce Book.”


99 posted on 11/07/2012 5:11:54 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mr. K

>> “I would NOT feel one bit of guilt over it” <<

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Nor should anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together.

(BTW, did you ever get back from the powder room?)


100 posted on 11/07/2012 5:25:45 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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