Skip to comments.Gov. Rick Perry, 2016 & the Future of Texas
Posted on 11/07/2012 1:54:02 PM PST by wk4bush2004
Gov. Rick Perry's Facebook page is definitely interesting right now, to say the least. There is a lot of talk, urging him to consider having Texas secede from the union.
While I believe that talk of secession is a bit dramatic right now, I understand where people are coming from.
Frankly, I would support getting a coalition behind Gov. Perry for 2016 to take back the White House!
If Texas leaves the union, my husband and I will move there in a heartbeat or quicker.
Link to his FB page?
Why soil his dignity and occupy the White Hut? He can be the first President of the newly re-constituted Republic of Texas.
Just let me in before they close the gates!
Yes, this is idiotic and it is never going to happen.
Further, within another generation Republicans/conservatives will have a hard time winning even Texas due to the explosion of Democratic voting Hispanics.
You might want to find another state if you are thinking long term.
I vote for The Republic of Texas. My ancestors were here back then and I would be thrilled to live to see it again.
And I say; Good for him.
I would move my family there as well.
Yeah, good luck with 40% Hispanic population and growing rapidly, the Republic of Texas will be the Republica de Nuevo Texas, a budding banana republic or a Mexican drug proxy. And that is a big if... Obama will be the new Lincoln after crushing Texas’ secession.
As a Texan I can say, the reason why Dewhurst did not get elected as senator was PERRY!! The two of them are big spending anti-Tea Party Rinos. Perry was a democrat till Bush was elected govenor. Our tax rate is in the middle of the country because of fees and crap that are hidden in the Tx cost of doing business. Our property taxes are off the chart. School Kids get the same liberal crap as those in Calif or Mass. /another post election rant
Looking at the map, I think it's clear that a sea of red means secession is now an increasingly likely event. I am not happy about that, because we all know what happened last time, and it was horrible.
But this time, the economics of it are reversed. To the extent that this country has an industrial base, it is now in the south, not the north. To the extent that we have an advancing and growing portion of our country, it is in the south now, not the north as it was in the Civil War.
Question is, at what point does that great sea of red on the electoral map finally get fed up with the fruits of their production going to dark blue cities filled with moochers and diversity consultants.
Can Oklahoma come? PLEASE?????
The RINO Party?
The Conservative/TEA Party?
Thanks to mass immigration, Texas will be a battleground state within a few more election cycles.
Once enough conservatives have had enough of blue-state B.S., their emigration to TX will easily offset the demographic explosion of Hispanic Donkey voters. Texas could become a gigantic Galt’s Gulch, and could incorporate OK, LA, and other states as well. Then the libs in the rump states can go pound sand.
I’d like to see my state of Michigan start awarding electoral votes by congressional district. I’d also like to see that disastrous 17th amendment overturned so we could get senators that actually represent the state again.
Go Texas go....oklahoma will follow....start the process...
I will move to Texas also. I do not want to live in socialist Amerika!
NO NO NO....
Secession talk is for quitters. It’s an easy out.
It’s like saying, I don’t want to be part of the USA anymore, but I don’t want to pick up and move away.
F*** that kind of talk. We’re Americans. Alone, Texas would fall. And without Texas, SO/SW US is a failure. Better together, that’s Texas and the US.
Besides...I haven’t perfected my brisket yet. Still need your compadres to help me out :-)
I would most of the south would join texas and states in the plains.. Since most hispanics live mostly south part of Texas could sell that part to Mexico...
I’m for standing and fighting where I’m planted. Here in Michigan we are winning a little at a time.
Last night we did hold all of our GOP congressional seats (one went tea party) and crushed two of the world’s worst pro union ballot proposals and a green energy proposal.
All the liberals fleeing for Texas is helping us out. LOL
I think the argument can be made that none of us live in the USA anymore, at least not a USA any of us will ever recognize again. Why not secede and start over, learning from the mistakes that killed the USA? There are no habitable empty continents to run to, so all that is left is to fight for self-determination. A country split this evenly on almost every issue simply cannot stand. There’s no point in pretending that we remain one nation.
Sam Houston once said that Texas can make it without America, but America can’t make it without Texas.
Rush asked a question earlier this week: If we split the nation along the Mississippi and gave the east to the liberals and the west to conservatives, how long would it be before the liberals were digging tunnels into the west?
there comes a time when a marriage cannot be saved, I am said to say. Texas, unfortunately, has an abusive, alcoholic spouse. It is past time for a divorce. The thing is, I really don’t see the northeast or west coast being interested is stopping us - I figure they will be glad to see us go - and so would we. Someone in Texas government needs to start serious talks along these lines, negotiate the divorce, and let’s end this thing.
When Texas chose to join the union, we did not sign up for a suicide pact. America has broken her contract with Texas, it’s time for us to negotiate an agreed departure.
As both a Texan and one who loves the beauty of the principles of our republic as founded, I have mixed feelings about secession. It would be a cataclysmic undertaking, and could be disastrous. That said, I think Texas is the one state with the large enough population, diversified economy, and natural resources to make it as a separate sovereign state.
Heck, we will all be able to move down to Mehico before too long as there won’t be anybody left down there except a few drug lords and crooked politicians / policemen.
I wish I had marketable skills to move myself.
I would rather support him leading the Red states to secede. This election has proven that people who believe in and follow the rule of law have no voice and no place among the Democrats' rule by thugs, gangs and criminals who have NO regard for the rule of law. As for 2016, let's see how the next year or two go before we start making any plans.
Texas, by itself, would be comparable to Australia. A little larger in population, a little small economy (about 14th). We have oil, natural gas, high tech, agriculture. It would be very viable as a stand alone country. And it would be growing very fast with business friendly policies.
Of course, we would have a few friends who would like to tag along, I’m thinking OK for one. Add up a few contiguous states and we would have a very powerful country well into the top 10 and fast growing.
I’ve been talking up secession for quite some time. I hope a plurality of states with perhaps Texas leading the discussions can begin to have a serious conversation with movers and shakers to get this thing rolling.
This country has crossed the tipping point and I can't think of a way for a solid conservative to ever win the WH again.
My advice to Perry would be to stay in TX.
BTW, I'd be thrilled to move to TX if TX would secede, in spite of your hot weather.
Why do we need Perry? We have our very own President King.
We should make King king.
Yes, and the mere occurrence of actual, public state discussions of the possibility of secession may finally get the attention of the DC ruling class and convince them how serious people are about limited government.
If that happens, there won’t be any battleground states.
“Frankly, I would support getting a coalition behind Gov. Perry for 2016 to take back the White House”
In a New York minute. I would give up everything I own. He was our guy. I donated to his campaign. When the good conservatives ridiculed him and chose not to support him in South Carolina and he dropped out,I supported Romney with all my heart.I donated to his campaign. When the good conservatives spat and turned their backs and chose not support him nationally, I went into a state of depression and there I remain reading all the sick excuses from those who deserted the cause for a cause of their own so that Obama could stroll back in. I would give the last days of my life if Rick could lead us out of this abyss for the sake of future generations. I confess to being a drama queen. I’m sure we would never leave the union but if we did, there would suddenly be a lot of believers in work and Mitt’s plan. The Little Red Hen. They probably would even want to follow. Anyway, not in my lifetime.
I live in Texas pretty close to the OK border.
I lived there while in law school.
My whole family (all Texans) supports the idea that if our liberty is more important to loyalty.
In other words we aren’t leaving the US, the US left us.
Not if Y’All get your behinds down here & help boost the White population. It surprises me when people fail to consider that the whole point of secession is to *change* the way we live & restore traditional values to the area of secession. No more federal meddling & sovereignty for the government *we* elect & that serves us. Closing the border & restoring God to our schools, courthouses, & public areas would be Job 1- especially under Gov Perry.
No one, and I mean no one, possesses the ideological purity to measure up to everything required by all the different beliefs in "conservatism" and still appeal to a nationwide audience.
Until those who call themselves Republicans are willing to make small concessions and use a "salami slice" approach to politics, Repubs will stay a minority party - and that's IF they can get elected.
Until Repubs get behind their candidate and actually get out and vote for him instead of sitting home in a huff because of some perceived ideological "impurity", we will stay on the road to the third-world-hellhole-ism of the Democrats.
Sorry but you will be consider illegal alien and would have to get in line to apply. The line will be long since Texas has no income tax and vast mineral resources, ie self supporting. Texas is paradise, take your pick... snow, sunny, mountains, forest, ocean, farmland, clean water, oil and gas. The perfect state for secession.
Hey potty mouth, maybe you should look at where Texas falls in a list of the worlds largest economies.
As to the moochers already in Texas, cut off their free stuff and they will relocate of their own accord. And if you require voters to 1) have a job and 2) pay taxes, you pretty much eliminate the democratic party base.
Something needs to happen to shake their livers loose.
OT but, as to Michigan: Glad you won what you did up there, but have you any insights on why Stabenow won so handily? (MInd you, I just don’t understand many states’ voters. Over in Wisconsin they picked a stereotype Madison leftist over the admittedly dull Tommy Thompson.)
I have spent half my life in Texas. I think we are only a moderately conservative state. Consider that Houston has an openly gay mayor. Austin residence are mostly liberal. There we would already have the New Hollywood for the republic of Texas.
Right now I feel I’m living in a nation much like Germany just before the Nazi’s took over. The only difference is Germans back then had a chance to flee to the USA. Where do we go from here?
“Residence” should be “residents”.