Posted on 11/07/2012 3:49:11 PM PST by MadIsh32
In his re-election victory, Democrat Barack Obama narrowly defeated Republican Mitt Romney in the national popular vote (50% to 48%)1. Obama’s margin of victory was much smaller than in 2008 when he defeated John McCain by a 53% to 46% margin, and he lost ground among white evangelical Protestants and white Catholics.
But the basic religious contours of the 2012 electorate resemble recent elections – traditionally Republican groups such as white evangelicals and weekly churchgoers strongly backed Romney, while traditionally Democratic groups such as black Protestants, Hispanic Catholics, Jews and the religiously unaffiliated backed Obama by large margins.
I disagree. I bet if you surveyed Jewish voters over 65, the vast majority of them voted for Obama as well.
I broke it down my percentages, and the data shows that white Catholics supported Romney & McCain, whereas Hispanic Catholics strongly supported Obama. Yet freepers want to bash "Catholics" in general. If could find data showing that white Jews of European ancestry were for Romney, or that Jews over 35 voted Romney, then it would be foolish to lump in all Jews together.
However, the data shows that Jews are overwhelmingly Democrat, REGARDLESS of their age, ethnic group, or whether they are practicing Jews or not. That is simply not the case with the "Catholic vote".
As much as you understandably want to disown them, and can invoke “self excommunication, the reality is that Rome treats them as members in life and in death, as no less an example then Ted Kennedy illustrates.
And what is conveyed by this expresses what she really effectually teaches, as the hearers of words tend to look for its interpretation by how the preachers of it apply it.
And overall Catholics and like institutionalized Protestants are much more liberal than their evangelical counterparts, even in our compromise state, including in voting for Presidents: http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html
It's hard to argue that.
Israel won't be nuked by Iran. Divine intervention will see to that.
That said, I do NOT understand how American Jews can turn their backs on their own people.
For crying out loud, Evangelical Christians show more support for Israel than American Jews do judging by voting patterns.
other than their overwhelming influence in our media and popular culture I could really give a damn about Jews vote
At the other end of the political spectrum, nearly eight-in-ten white evangelical Protestants voted for Romney (79%), compared with 20% who backed Obama. Romney received as much support from evangelical voters as George W. Bush did in 2004 (79%) and more support from evangelicals than McCain did in 2008 (73%). Mormon voters were also firmly in Romney’s corner; nearly eight-in-ten Mormons (78%) voted for Romney, while 21% voted for Obama. Romney received about the same amount of support from Mormons that Bush received in 2004. (Exit poll data on Mormons was unavailable for 2000 and 2008.)
Compared with religiously unaffiliated and Jewish voters on the left and white evangelicals and Mormons on the right, Catholics and white mainline Protestants were more evenly divided. Among white mainline Protestants in the exit poll, 54% voted for Romney, while 44% supported Obama. This is virtually identical to the 2008 election, when 55% of white mainline Protestants voted for McCain and 44% backed Obama.
White Catholics, by contrast, swung strongly in the Republican direction relative to 2008. Nearly six-in-ten white Catholics (59%) voted for Romney, up from 52% who voted for McCain in 2008. Three-quarters of Hispanic Catholics voted for Obama, and Catholics as a whole were evenly divided in 2012 (50% voted for Obama, while 48% backed Romney) - http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Faithful-Voted-2012-Preliminary-Exit-Poll-Analysis.aspx
Catholics can claim that all they want, but until a year ago, every Catholic I knew, ie, was related to and worked with, voted dem, and they are what you all would call faithfully practicing Catholics. Very active in their parishes, attending mass EVERY Sunday, without fail, and then some besides for the holy days.
When asked why they voted dem when the democratic party was pro-abortion, the answer was the same, both thirty years ago and today with the Catholic neighbor I talked with, it's because the dems are *for the poor*. Almost word for word the same answer, decades apart and in a different locale.
Somehow catholics fail to see that the mandate to care for the poor is for the CHURCH, given to followers of Christ. It's not something to be foisted off on to the government. That does not fulfill the individual Christian's obligation to feed the hungry and clothe the naked, and care for the poor.
You can't vote or legislate away your responsibility.
Conservative Catholics can claim all they want that anyone calling themselves Catholic who votes liberal isn't REALLY a Catholic, but their argument isn't with those of us who point out the error in that claim, it's with the practicing Catholics who vote liberal.
Take it up with THEM. THEY'RE the ones practicing their religion and considering themselves *good Catholics* because they are *helping* the poor by assigning the job to the government.
>>Well if the Jews don’t care about Isreal why should I worry about it any more?<<
>It’s hard to argue that.<
It is true that most Jews are liberal, yet we should care because,
“As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes. “ (Romans 11:28)
And thus they have a future (http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/israel-chosenorforgotten.html), while even apart from any faith connection, we should see them as the victims of Islamic persecution, and are among the best allies America has.
Preach it, sister.
Jews voting for Obama is like chickens voting for Tyson.
Yeah, I do know that.
God will bless those who bless Israel.
I pray for the peace of Jerusalem, and know that Israel is safe, not because the US supports it, but because God is going to protect it.
Amen! And I know you care, unlike so many .
How disgusting was it to watch Clinton commit perjury about fornicating in the WH and the Catholic members of Congress supported him? Just a little sex, don't ya know. If Catholics are going to set themselves apart, shouldn't they at least be different? I don't compare myself to prots, are the "black church", or Mormons, or Jews. But Catholics should stand for something.
The purpose of my rants are to try to get the church to WAKE UP. The church defenders shift into high gear and try to cover obvious problems. I know there is trouble everywhere, but as I keep pointing out, the problems are at the top. It just seems a cardinal or even the pope would say something about Massachusetts or New Jersey and clean them out. As it is, it looks as if the church sanctions the mob and baby killers. Don't even get me started on Kennedy's funeral.
Amen to post #28! That is the biggest problem with the church, IMHO, that they teach that the rich are evil and the government needs to steal their money and give to the poor. Christ taught that WE are supposed to feed and clothe the poor. Pointing the way to the welfare office is not doing God’s work. I think the Jesuits are responsible for this travesty. Any commie country that you hear about priests and nuns dieing is usually Jesuits running guns to the commie rebels and getting caught. It seems they want to be activists for the left more than they want to serve Christ.
More than 98% I'm sure
Christians like Catholics or Baptists or Presbyterians, numbers for 0 went down
i'm sure that more than 98% of Moslems voted for Obama
well, Pew says that 45% of "Protestants/Other Christians" voted for 0 -- that's about 38% of the votes
so, the "Protestants/Other Christians" who voted for 0 put 0 in... without that 38%, he couldn't have won....
42% of “protestants/other christians” and probably 98% of Moslems (as I asked you above) voted for Obama twice. This is a large % of the electorate.
Moslems will keep bashing Catholics....
that's not fair, TPF -- these are just the Jews in America. Nearly all liberals. This is not the Jews in the US and DEFINITELY not our fellow freepers here on FR
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