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Makers Consider being Takers - Overload Redistribution by Getting a Fair Share
Reflection | 11/8/2012 | Self

Posted on 11/08/2012 4:31:55 AM PST by Jumper

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Miscellaneous; Society
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To: Roccus
Since my taxable non-SS income is more than the government thinks I deserve, part of my SS retirement benefits are also taxed.

Isn't that also tied to your "full retirement age?" Don't really know - just asking.

21 posted on 11/08/2012 5:21:08 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

No, it isn’t.

Check out line 20(a) and (b) on your 1040.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 5:22:39 AM PST by Roccus
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To: from occupied ga

Hit POST too soon.

Taking SS retirement benefits before “full retirement age” results in a decrease in benefits received.


23 posted on 11/08/2012 5:25:03 AM PST by Roccus
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To: silverleaf
mongrels

Perfect descriptor !

24 posted on 11/08/2012 5:27:40 AM PST by tomkat ( <shrug>)
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To: Jumper

From another post down the page:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2956910/posts

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As Joseph Sobran put it: “’Need’ now means wanting someone else’s money. ‘Greed’ means wanting to keep your own. ‘Compassion’ is when a politician arranges the transfer.’”

http://www.creators.com/opinion/john-stossel/greed.html

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This country is overrun with ‘taker’ government policies, if ‘we’ do this the restructuring will happen faster - the band-aid will be ripped off quicker- it’s an oozing wound right now - the band-aid does need to come off to let it air out and heal.

Ready to rip the band-aid?

This strategy is monetary Anarchy to “this government” - they want to “take” money from us, they don’t want it the other way....because then “their government” plan doesn’t work.

*Buy only necessities (used items when ever possible)
*Claim higher dependents on taxes
*”Take” every deduction in April
* Utilize charity giving to lower taxes
*Apply for all assistance - whether you think you’ll receive or not (bog down the systems)

Hold on... because the future is a band-aid being pulled off - the question is....do you want it ripped off fast or tugged on ever so slowly?

Either way it’s going to hurt.
But that dirty, pussy, bacteria riddled band-aid has to go.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 5:29:29 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Jumper

I don’t know. At first I thought it was a great idea, especially since I’m technically right at the poverty line, but I’m going to keep trying to live the American Dream. That may be naive, but.. well.. gotta try. :(


26 posted on 11/08/2012 5:33:55 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: libertarian27
“’Need’ now means wanting someone else’s money. ‘Greed’ means wanting to keep your own. ‘Compassion’ is when a politician arranges the transfer.’”

After the word transfer should be added,..."at gunpoint."
Government is just another word for extortion.

27 posted on 11/08/2012 5:34:02 AM PST by Roccus
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To: Jumper

My attitude yesterday was this:

I am a state retiree living on a very modest pension (no big dollars for me). I live frugally and am quite content. Now, the state made a contract with me to contribute to a pension fund. Arizona’s state pension fund is more funded than most, but it is still underfunded. But I don’t care. I want mine and I want mine for as long as I live. And if the state has to raise taxes to help pay for my pension then they can go right ahead. I am not sure I even care if people coming behind me get theirs, as long as I get mine.

This is my first attempt at living like a true taker. I’m sure I’ll get better as I go along.


28 posted on 11/08/2012 5:42:52 AM PST by mancini
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To: Josephat

Big second to that, J.


29 posted on 11/08/2012 5:46:23 AM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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To: Roccus
Taking SS retirement benefits before “full retirement age” results in a decrease in benefits received.

Yes, but my father was told by his financial advisor that taking early retirement and getting more payments for the rest of your life would result in him getting more over the long haul, not less. Me? I'm taking early retirement. That is, if the system is around in 7 years.

30 posted on 11/08/2012 5:48:13 AM PST by mancini
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To: Roccus

At 62, if I retire now, I get $1150/mo. At 65, I get $1625. At 67, I get $2350. Big diff. But by 67, it (SSI) probably will be either collapsed or run-dry.


31 posted on 11/08/2012 5:51:31 AM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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To: silverleaf
Unless you know exactly where your church poor box donations go, don't give to it. Many churches get a list from the local social services office, so your money goes to the same folks.

Look around you. When you go shopping, or out to eat, talk to the help. Many of those people could use some help and probably are living on less income then the welfare recipients. They don't ever get the donations. And you know they're working. Leave a large tip, give them a gas card or grocery card or find out what they need or their kids want and surprise them with it. They will appreciate your gift and they won't feel entitled to it. Find a way to give your gift anonymously if you prefer.

32 posted on 11/08/2012 5:53:11 AM PST by Betty Jane
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“I don’t have a clue. Honestly.”

You automatically get “The Manual”, when you sign-up as a dem. Seems they all know how to do it. I don’t have a clue, either.


33 posted on 11/08/2012 5:55:15 AM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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To: carriage_hill; mancini

Right, I took it at 62 also.

But that has no bearing on the fact that you have to pay income tax on part of those benefits if your taxable non-SS income is more than the gov’t. thinks you deserve.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 5:56:49 AM PST by Roccus
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To: Josephat

When the system crashes no-one will take control.

That is what a crash is.

There will be a reset—and that comes after no-one knows.

Look at what happened after the Roman Empire collapsed. There were a thousand years of chaos and nearly fifteen hundred before Karl Marx brewed his toxic mix.


35 posted on 11/08/2012 5:57:03 AM PST by cgbg (HLM--"Democracy is the theory that people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.")
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To: Roccus

I haven’t applied, and was going to wait until 67. But I’m having 2nd thoughts, now. I have a nice 401K for 65, and an $8.5mm Family Farm Business (closed 2011) for sale, but I’ll be lucky to get $1.5mm for it, if I can even sell it, in this 0bummer-destroyed economy. And cap gains tax jumps-up on Jan 1st, again dbl-taxing any sale monies. Screwed anyway I turn. My corp/personal CPA and I are looking at options.


36 posted on 11/08/2012 6:06:21 AM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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To: bella1

100% agree, my wife and I discussed this last night. We are very charitable people but no more.


37 posted on 11/08/2012 6:15:29 AM PST by Arkansas Tider (Army EOD)
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To: carriage_hill

My numbers are nowhere near your’s, but I figure...”get it while you can.” None of us know how long we have left on this blue marble.
Right now my SS makes up about 50% of my income so any income tax I have to pay on those benefits is a hit.


38 posted on 11/08/2012 6:15:44 AM PST by Roccus
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To: Jumper

Starve the system as well. Hire “off the books” to deprive the regime of funding and of the employment statistics that would benefit them.


39 posted on 11/08/2012 6:15:44 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: tsowellfan

I dont agree. I trust God to handle it in His way and time. Not for me to join in with the blind. I stand firm against partaking in the destruction of our country.


40 posted on 11/08/2012 6:30:46 AM PST by freeB
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