Skip to comments.Republican strategist Karl Rove's very bad night
Posted on 11/08/2012 8:51:38 AM PST by murron
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - As television networks began declaring that President Barack Obama had won re-election, the most captivating televised drama Tuesday evening played out on Fox News, where Republican strategist Karl Rove refused to believe the race between Obama and Mitt Romney was over.
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This is the same Karl Rove who mocked those who were backing the lady candidate for Senator in Delaware (I'm sorry, I can't remember her name for the life of me, the one who was accused of being a witch) saying that we didn't know all the ins and outs of running a campaign to paraphrase Karl Rove. How can anybody give him or Dick Morris any credibility any more? It will be interesting to see if Hannity and O'Reilly still have them on their shows.
Rove is very much part of the problem. He may know how people inside the beltway think, but he does not understand how the rank-and-file of the GOP think.
I guess the silver lining here is that he’s entered semi-retirement as just another Fox News talking head pundit.
May turdblossom now face away.
May turdblossom now fade away.
Sorry, I am not a big Rove fan. But...I think his numbers were correct. I still do.
Christine O’Donnell (”I am not a witch”)
Since when do we all embrace an Al Reuters article?
No Rovian here, either.
Michael Barone was way wrong.
And his record is the best there is.
He’ll be back. He makes a ton of money on each election. Rove doesn’t have any bad election nights.
Or, it’s really tough to accept America’s new FOB ‘fresh off the boat’ demographic and union hacks where cheating is a strategy.
Republican strategist Karl Rove has had one “bad night” after another. Arnold Schwarzenneger. Lincoln Chaffee. Arlen Specter. Juan McCain. Mitt Romney. And let’s not forget the mid-term election of 2006, when he engineered the transition from an overwhelming victory in 2004 to an overwhelming defeat that lost congress and continued into 2008, by constantly counseling W to betray his base—until the base gave up on him and stayed home. Where they apparently remained once again.
He did a pretty good job earlier—maybe assisted by clinton’s corrupt tricks and algore’s stupidity—but he has been wrong about virtually everything he he has touched for at least six years. Yet the corrupt jerks who run the GOP just won’t learn from their mistakes.
Remind me why anyone listens to this idiot?
In the future, anyone who hires Rove is one candidate I will not support. I am sick of this guy!
“Sorry, I am not a big Rove fan. But...I think his numbers were correct. I still do.”
I am a fan of his. I know most on here are not. He is part of the GOP-E. I know FOX worshipped him like he was the oracle on the Delphi. I also think his numbers were right. I think there was an ellaborate voter fraud scheme that cannot be anticipated by anyone that actually wanted to keep this an honest election.
Rove had a very bad night and lost a ton of money on this $130MM raised/spent - I heard he had a 1% Return On His Investment (ROI) - still without him then that’s a big money source for GOP so don’t go railing on Karl too much.
I don’t care where this news story was pulled from. All I know is I’m sick to death of experts and pollsters. I would never answer a pollster, on anything. My views are none of their damn business.
I’ll express what I want, when I want, and to whom I want. I can’t even watch Fox anymore, with Rove and Morris on all the time. I also can’t stand O’Reilly, Hannity, and Shep.
For now, I watch the Blaze. They need more programming but other than that they’re ok. The internet has more than enough information for me so in the long term, I need no TV or experts to tell me anything.
Rove is now 2-3.
They Republican insiders likely know this election was all out stolen.
We don't have free elections anymore and even if we do we have people that are not Americans choosing our leaders and running our lives. That is simply not acceptable. It's time to consider splitting up the country with Americans taking the middle of the country. The socialists can have the west and east coast.
I agree. Rove was using 2008 turnout numbers. 2008 turnout numbers would have given it Romney.
I’m with you. Why do we need pollsters and experts at election time anyway? Answer: we don’t. The problem is that 24 hour news organizations need to fill the time with something so they paraded Rove and Morris and others before us in hopes to impress us with all their brilliantness. Like you, I am done with Fox news. All the news I need can be found in my local news hour. When/if I feel I need to be informed about something I will do my homework, till then I am done with politics.
“Remind me why anyone listens to this ididot??”
Exactly right. Let’s remember: HIS former boss was STILL being blamed for this economic disaster we’re facing today. I’m so sick of this clown being labeled The Architect - as if he was some kind of genius. For such a genius, evidently Karl didn’t understand the basic Stalinist principle that “A lie told often enough becomes the truth”.
Rove is way overrated. A second rate hack. He barely won the 2000 election and if it wasn’t for the swift boaters, would have lost the reelection in 2004 also. He also presided over the catastrophic loss in Congress in 2006 and the debacle we are still dealing with named Barry.
I agree with Rove. There was something fishy about the numbers. He just said Fox was calling the states prematurely with too many Republican votes still out. I have seen people here saying the same thing. I don’t see what was so wrong with what he said. The media is just making a big issue out of it as usual. I wish people wouldn’t fall for it.
That should tell us something.
He was shocked because he and other insiders thought they could shove a Massuchusetts Liberal on their voters and they’d still turn out. Their models were based on assumptions everyone that voted McCain and maybe slightly more turn out for Romney. He thought Romney would win because he thought those same voters were still going to suck it up and turn out indefinitely. The insiders got a nasty surprise. McCain was bad, Romney was worse. If the totals are indeed below 2008 they have no one but themselves to blame. Them and the primary voters who were convinced that man was “electable”.
I don’t think the criticism is about his prediction, it’s about his practice. He raised tons of money, and barely any of his candidates won. Etc. Rove hates conservatives and thinks all non-atheists are total morons.
And his record is the best there is.
I think this was the worst. He came out and said it was going to be a landslide for Romney, and it was anything but, and a loss no less.
Was the election
If A, then no further analysis is required. Changing demographics and people staying home doesn’t matter if the ballot boxes are being stuffed. Either stop the cheating or be the ones counting the votes.
If B, then the Republicans have to get smarter.
I agree. He knows his numbers and so does Barone. I also think PA was screwed by Philly.
I agree completely.
The following responses to the Media, pollsters, etc., should become the norm for any American who cares about their country:
Question: "Who are you planning on voting for in this election?"
Question: "Would you be willing to respond to some poll questions?"
Question: "We're doing an Exit Poll, who did you just vote for?"
I would like to remind those that stayed home because Romney wasn't good enough that the man they helped reelect sat back and did nothing while our American soldiers and our ambassador were murdered.
Do you think the liberal Mitt Romney would have gave the order to stand down then turn around a leave for a campaign trip leaving Americans to be murdered? Then go on a two week tour of the US lying to the faces of the American people?
Do you think liberal Romney hates the 2nd amendment enough to provide thousands of guns to drug dealing murderers for the sole purpose of undermining the United Statses Constitution? At least 2 American's and hundreds of innocent Mexican citizens payed with their lives for this act of treason.
I hope those that stayed home are comfortable with this evil man at the helm of what's left of our nuclear arsenal cause he has a lot of "flexibility" now.