Posted on 11/08/2012 12:23:02 PM PST by jongaltsr
Want to get back to freedom and the Constitution - (which effectively no longer exists?
Learn to TAKE (from the government and liberal entities) - Bleed them dry (Fast and Furious)
In the mean time - Take care of your own needs everyday and always insure that you don't pay taxes by making coop agreements with like minded fighters.
Help people like yourself who can circumvent government at every turn.
The key here is to drain the looters and feed the producers.
Turn your home and the homes of your friends into "Galt's Gulch".
Let the government pay and pay and pay to the leaches and hangers on until they fail and the system collapses. (The faster the better).
Let the leaches of society suffer for awhile. Let them RELEARN what it means to work to survive. Then come back and offer them work under your terms where fair minded men rule (without taxation and regulations up the wazu) and good work receives good pay and great work gets greater pay.
The quicker this happens the more infrastructure will remain viable. If this drags out the looters will only destroy or let rot the assets you will need to rebuild once they are destroyed.
Give people a fair wage for their work and no pay for bad work. Once they start to starve they will learn to work more honestly and only then will they understand that good reliable work gets respect as well as good rewards.
Oh how I wish this would happen.
The people working now are the Slave caste to the master caste sucking their wealth
Everyone who works for a paycheck should immediately change their payroll deductions to 9....(save the funds you will not be sending to IRS for later.) Then, at tax time, if you OWE taxes, file an extension for April, and then another one, I think in August....
I will be signing up for Social Security in April....really didn’t want to but now since we have Obomba...I will, and use the funds to support CONSERVATIVE biz and issues.
I’m in. More tips, please.
We started this 3 years ago. There are 12 in my “Gulch”
Electrician X2
Plumber
Carpenter X2
Mechanic
Doctor X2
Lawyer
Engineer
Iron (welder) worker
Landscaper
We trade services and work on credit. Need your car fixed, you either go into debt to our mechanic, collect a credit or pay him cash or trade something of value. We keep track on gentlemen’s agreements and loose leaf paper.
Shhhhhhh!
I am doing it. It is the only way.
Force your churches to get back to preaching Truth and Sin. Take the minds of your children and grandchild from the Marxist preaching machines-—TV and public schools. They need to understand Classical ideas. What is Justice? etc. They need to understand Machiavelli and how politicians work.
We need a spiritual revival-—we need a Rule of Law here—where God is the Truth——not Satanic morality of sodomites teaching Vice as Good to our children to warp their logic and reason and destroy Laws of Nature (truth).
Awesome!
I have some skilled friends, it is time.
To an earlier poster: I am signing up for SS now that I was let go from a great job (with great taxes too).
Cash is king indeed.
You do know that there is an “underpayment penalty” for failing to submit the “correct” amount throughout the year, don’t you?
What’s the underlying idea behind your tactic? Am I missing something?
Well put!
I disagree, because what you suggest helps enable the leftist ClowardPiven strategy, which seeks to destroy the nation.
Instead, the best way to neutralize it is to not support it. That is, “you cannot get blood from a turnip”. But just because a turnip gives no blood does not mean it is not doing fine on its own. Turnips existed before farmers, and people lived quite well with minimal government involvement.
You wouldn’t know it, but millions of Americans live below “the radar”, most of whom by choice. They do not carry ID cards, they deal only in cash, they do not talk to police unless forced and ignore government bureaucrats. And it is not an “either/or” proposition. Many people just make it an effort to lower their profile so much that they are ignored.
But then again, neither do they pay taxes, except local sales tax. They do not feed the beast, and because it is so expensive to harass them to file income taxes with a lot of zeros on them, the government has given up on trying to force them to do so.
So this is a good bottom line. Since the government wants to give some people endless largess, doesn’t have the money to do so, but pretends it does, so what? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that it will eventually fail as a system. But when it does, so what?
Government only really exists to protect us from foreign nations. If it can’t do that, or can’t manage its own affairs, a different government will supplant it.
Extensions to file are for 6 months.. (From April 15th)
Then they are all due on Oct 15th.
If everyone raised their exemtions at work the gov’t would not have the money to use. If nobody paid then Obama cannot be Santa Clause.
Kudos. Excellent job.
We'll soon be entering a calorie rather than a cash society. Food will become very valuable for a number of reasons. The woman in your life, if conservative, can help take care of this end. Someone has to know how to grow, preserve, and cook from scratch. Shelf stable food is a big help here, too (such as powdered ___(fill in the blank)___).
Some "wild" foods are excellent, too. It's where I get most of my preserves, jams and jellies. They're good because they don't need refrigeration.
Aren't there penalties for withholding too little?
Here’s my analysis. 1st of all don’t blame Romney. He had 10 times the energy of McCain and stressed the economic issues we all believe in. We were beaten by a coalition of minorities, women, transgendered people, perverts, illegal aliens and the like. If we cannot elect a candidate in the heart of this economic depression, we can never elect a candidate again. We have only 2 choices - compromise our beliefs or go John Galt. Cut off the oxygen supply to the beast by doing everything we can to stop the Federal government from getting our dollars. Yes the economy will implode and we will be seeing scenes out of “The Walking Dead”. but that is the only choice we have. We have reached the tipping point and now are headed in the direction of Venezuala and Rhodesia.
Even more fun, they wouldn't be able to collect the millions of dollars of interest on all that money people over pay each year.
They depend on people over paying because they use that additional interest in their budgets. They've grown to depend on it.
Do you have close conservative friends and family that you TRUST? What skills do they have that are of value? Who do they trust? What do you have to offer? If your talent is forecasting the weather, you might be in trouble.
You start with bartering service with someone and acknowledge that something is owed. Define what goods or services you can trade and agree that it is worth it.
Example: If you'll fix my car (I'll buy parts for you) I'll write up your will, or do your taxes, or paint your house, etc.
Keep track of who owes what. As more people invite more to join, and assuming you are getting the right folks, more organization will evolve. We are talking about appointing/electing a group arbitrator/judge because one hour of a doctors time is or is not worth how many hours of a mechanics time. The answer was, what is it worth between the individuals? Is rebuilding a transmission worth diagnosing and treating bronchitus? We are hesitant to agree on structure because the whole system depends on individual agreement and judgement. Within the group, your credibility is your collateral. If you "rip someone off" don't expect any more business. And all in our group understand that. So far, no elections and no leaders, the problem worked itself out and an apology was made to the group for complaining. What we need is a couple farmers! So far no luck.
WARNING: One bad apple can screw it up. Be careful, honest and dilligent.
Fer later
There's one really big problem with their theory - human nature. They believe if we're thrust back into the stone age, the poor will finally get a fighting chance. It will be their turn to rise up and become the wealthy.
Problem. People live on social programs because they're lazy. People get rich because they're not. If we're ever thrust back into the stone age like the Oboma folks want, the lazy will still be lazy. The productive will still be productive.
In the end, we'll just be right back where we started. It will have all been a horrible, horrible waste of life.... for nothing.
This is different then the “47%”, how?
Infuriating.....A welfare "family" receives anywhere from $40 - $60,000 per year in benefits.
There are taxpayers who don't even make that much who have to cut back on their own families budget to get by, because the freeloaders get their "entitlements" first, before the tax payer even gets to see what's left of his meager pay check after the politicians rob him
Even worse, most of these freeloaders have never worked a day in their life. Oboma worked one day. He said he didn't like it.
awesome for you guys!!
Create a “Galt’s List” online where people can trade services for barter as well as excess food bought with EBT and SNAP cards when you are bleeding the system dry.
No, I dont want the government in my life. At least as little as possible. I dont want anything the government is selling. No medicare, and if possible I dont want ss. I am slowly diminishing my need for an income above the poverty level, and I am going to live small but free.
We decided to do that years ago. We've been "off the grid" for awhile, though we keep access to all the fun stuff as long as we can afford it.
We saw how well the freeloaders were living on our money, so we decided to stop giving it to them. We deliberately keep our income below the legal poverty limit to avoid the taxes.
If the scrounges want free stuff for doing nothing, they're going to have to look somewhere else. They're not going to get a penny from us - Not if we can help it!
I think the key to our comfortable lifestyle is growing our own food. That almost eliminates a grocery bill (though sometimes we need a few things. I cook from scratch, so not much). We chop wood, so we have no heating bill. We have a lot on nonelectric gadgets, so electric use is low.
We do what we can "to help".
“We have a lot on nonelectric gadgets, so electric use is low.”
Interesting. While netsurfing for sewing machines I noticed that beautiful new treadle machines are being made. I was surprised to read reviews by people who love them; it’ll help them in their efforts to be self sufficient, and not helpless in a long-term emergency.
This is going to be a long war. If and when we win, our children and grandchildren will be the beneficiaries, but we may not see the benefits ourselves. Some things we can do:
1. Use our laws against the libs - minimize your taxes legally, unleash a firestorm of lawsuits against libs (make them spend money to defend), avoid unnecessary compliance with onerous laws and regulations.
2. Kill liberal political careers at the local level - there is no such thing as a good local Democrat politician. Todays Democrat school board member is a future Nancy Pelosi.
3. Dig into educational institutions, culture and the arts, local and state political and government organizations and give truth a voice.
4. Never, never, never give up.
5. Take out Dems everywhere we can, replace them with conservatives.
6. Ridicule liberals and liberalism at every opportunity. Make it un-cool to be liberal in your corner of the world.
7. Find right thinking, right acting people to associate and do business with.
8. Pray without ceasing.
Lehmans nonelectric (.com) has a lot of nonelectric stuff including the threadle machines. I got a lot of stuff from their catalog over the years.
High quality, fast shipping. They're in Ohio, and they sell a lot of things to the Amish.
That's where this taxpaying family is at. There are no more holes to tighten the belt. No vacations, no going out, no new clothes, no everything. We've worked and never owed anyone but suddenly now it's all crashing down. Yet, those getting benefits are raking in more than double. In no sane world is that right.
“My husband and I don’t have many more years left in this world but there is something the government can’t take. It is my pride. They won’t break me I am more determined than ever to talk to the lefties all around me and explain to them the error of their ways.”
VERY inspiring post! And your attitude is what is going to see you through. :)
I’m pretty much finished, too. I don’t have a pension of any sort, but through wise investments, I should be OK. I’ll be selling things I no longer need and collecting tin cans; I don’t care, LOL!
I’m going underground as much as possible. Government corruption and the greed of our politicians has sunk us all. God Help Us.
It’s even easier than that. Call your elected House members and demand that they NOT extend the debt ceiling. We can starve the beast almost immediately.
No, it isn't, but that's why their numbers keep growing. They live a very comfortable life style while never having to worry about anything. They know the tax slaves have no choice but to pay all the bills for them - cause they're "poor n needy."
This is why no one comes out to vote Republican anymore. People counted on them to protect the Republic from foreign entities (socialists/communists/illegals (unlawful entry)...etc.) and protect the Constitution for ALL Americans, and they failed. Now, there's no one left to free the citizen slaves - and it gets worse by the day.
Yes, we must teach the leach.
I and my family are reducing our economic activity to the bear minimum.
We will be fine. They will be unemployed and there won’t be money to help them.
Teach.
Paying off debts is a good way to use saved cash. This way, you're investing in yourself and getting your own house in order.
People spend on junk while their house if full of junk already. Now is the time to get rid of stuff, because if everything is in it's proper place, planning will be so much easier. You'll know what you actually have and what you actually need.
You do realize that the fedgov is already spending $1.40 for every $1 in receipts? So whatever shortfalls occur just call for the creation of more Baraqqi/Bernanke/Geithner minibucks.
Add to your list - learn a skill you can perform with your hands. Black smithing, tanning, pottery making, and carpentry come to mind.
Thanks for making me feel better. I had to rant. I did. nuff said.
you can make this happen but you have to have the balls and motivation to make it happen. I think you will survive because you have seen the light.
Thank you so much for posting this and thank you to everyone posted.
I already do a lot of this and will kick it in high gear from now on.
Please... Add me to any related PING lists!!
God Bless.
Ping my *ucking ass. YOU my friend must work on your own as we all must. We all have to be independent and interdependent of one another.You are only the Slave caste to the master caste should you chose to be such.
Contact all that you can but be unafraid of the consequences as there are consequences. Accept that fact and others (and possibly you) will be the beneficiaries.
We must all ( all ) work on our own to defeat them as if the connection to one another will lead THEM to connect us.
Be brave - be creative - be independent but be dedicated to FREEDOM and the CONSTITUTION of the United States of America.
Do something noble and make Freedom Ring once again.
Do something noble and make Freedom Ring once again.
That is 1 solution. It is where I started years ago.
I have advanced since then and now I suck from the government everything I possibly can.
I plan to make my existent a negative and should everyone find otherwise to do so let us all know.
The creativity of the masses is more effective then any one person can possibly imagine.
LET ME AND OTHERS KNOW YOUR IDEAS.
Welcome to Free Republic.
You have a very interesting posting history.
You want tips?
1. Read “Atlas Shrugged” - Get the audio on Audio.com - it is easier than trying to read the book.
(If you are a reader other than a listener of books then get the book)...... Read (or listen 2 - 3 - 6 times and you will get the point and the proper motivation.
THEN DO SOMETHING> > > (Period).......
Fight back. Go underground. Employ techniques to defeat the social elite.
Share your insights and suggestions with the rest of us. We need as much input as possible.
Apply what you have learned.
Never quit as long as there is one breath left in you.
Be brave. Be a thorn in the side of the Social Elite. (They can not stand opposition for they know they do not have the nerve to fight back except as a consolidated force (which they are not !!!!!!!)
Keep us informed. That is your best defense as they are spineless except when they are secure that they are in control.
THEY ARE NOT !
The answer is = quit working for the man. Work for yourself - Work for Freedom - Work for humanity.
That is perfect. Suck. Suck. Sunk.
Keep sucking from the government and maximize your benefits as much as impossible.
Make this system suffer as much as possible
Apply for everything you can until the system totally collapses.
(good for you).
You and the entire populations will benefit in the long run.
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