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Let the moochers suffer and the "Elite" puppet masters die.
John Galt

Posted on 11/08/2012 12:23:02 PM PST by jongaltsr

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To: Tenacious 1

you know that all of your cohorts are now exposed.

Warn them and get them to contact all that they know to do the same and expect the worst from Obama et al.

Secrecy no longer exists.

OVERWHELMING the opposition is the best defense.

Have each of your people expand their influence 10 - 100 fold and then have their people expand their influence 10 - 100 fold and so on.

If we do that we will overwhelm the strongest usurpers to the CONSTITUTION that EVER existed.


51 posted on 11/08/2012 5:33:58 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: jongaltsr

jongaltsr,

I’ve BEEN working on my own. I want to be ping’d for additional ideas to be MORE effective.

I’m finiancially independent, 30 year Engineer & close to retirement and JUST MAY RETIRE so they can’t collect income taxes on me!

Do you understand where I’m coming from now?


52 posted on 11/08/2012 5:44:12 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (I'm PISSED!)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001
JUST MAY RETIRE so they can’t collect income taxes on me!

Unless you plan to retire as a pauper, plan on paying plenty of taxes.

53 posted on 11/08/2012 5:47:14 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: nascarnation

Dividend income taxes, yes.

I have more than enough to last the rest of my life. Everything’s paid off. I pay NO interest. Expenses are minimal. Very good at this.

Be well.


54 posted on 11/08/2012 5:50:37 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (I'm PISSED!)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Don’t forget income tax on any pensions, and 401k withdrawals.


55 posted on 11/08/2012 5:56:49 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: 2nd Amendment

10 times McCain still equals “0”
What we need is guts, belief in the “Constitution of the United States of America and the willingness to FIGHT.


56 posted on 11/08/2012 5:58:12 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: nascarnation

Thanks, I’m 52, so that’ll be a while.


57 posted on 11/08/2012 6:01:56 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (I'm PISSED!)
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To: savagesusie

God is.
God is what you make of him (or it - for I believe that God in neither mortal or man.
God is more than man can conceive nor religion can define.


58 posted on 11/08/2012 6:02:33 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: elpinta

Keep your assets out of banks.
Keep them where they are TRULY safe.
Barry it in the back yard.
Keep them in a in the toilet,in a mason Jar
Be creative.
BUT NEVER KEEP IT IN THE BANK.
KEEP IT IN GOLD - SILVER AND TEMPORARILY INSIDE YOUR SPEAKERS OR UNDER A COFFEE TABLE. (BE CREATIVE.)
(but) (ALWAYS LET YOUR LOVED ONES KNOW WHERE) a you may not survive)
(Accept this fact).


59 posted on 11/08/2012 6:10:55 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: fwdude

Give the IRS (i - the government) as difficult a time as your can.
It ties up their assets and time.
Make them work for everything they can claim. The more people that do so just ties them up and delays their efforts with others.
Have guts. Plead ignorance. They can’t charge you for being (dumb).
They can charge you with various crimes and laws but they have the burden of proof so DON’T give them that ability. ACT STUPID. There is no law against that.


60 posted on 11/08/2012 6:18:21 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: fwdude

If you play {dumb} they can’t charge you.
If you act (smart) they will charge you.
They understand (dumb) but they punish the (smart ones).


61 posted on 11/08/2012 6:21:10 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Shush!

Don’t give them any ideas.

Continue acting dumb and just lay low.


62 posted on 11/08/2012 6:23:52 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: DOGHEAD

Cheat.
Every chance you get.
Always have a logical excuse.
Typo.
Someone else did your taxes.
You were drunk.
You did not check your final print out.
Blame your wife.
Blame your CPA.
etc.


63 posted on 11/08/2012 6:30:06 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: Rightly Biased

Fer Later - HELL!
If you aren’t paying attention you are on the losing end of life.
Go ahead and admit that you are a looser and will die wondering “just what happened”!


64 posted on 11/08/2012 6:34:04 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: concerned about politics

The lazy die or suffer. (because they deserve to)
The ambitions prosper. (because they can)
Those in between seek their own level of conform t because that is where their comfort level is. (That is the way we live.)
LIVE WITH IT !!!!!!
That is the way it is, will be and forever has been.


65 posted on 11/08/2012 6:41:09 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: lucky american

Good. You thought things out.

Your husband will probably NEVER have a full time job again. That is a given. Accept it. I did.

With SS you are bleeding the system which will shut it down that much quicker. Four years from now you will be grateful you did.

Take full advantage of medicare asap. Anything you can think of, take full advantage of NOW.

It is not the money that is at issue right now it it FREEDOM.

The Post Office is shutting down out of necessity so bail out ASAP. Or you can stay and just get laid off and then what do you get. A few months of unemployment?

At 59 you will never get another good paying job so take what you can get NOW,,,,,,,,,,

Romney is not the answer. Freedom is the answer. Osama Obama is not the answer. The Constitution is the answer.

It isn’t how long you have left in this world, but what you do with it. Make it better for your children and posterity.

Pride always goes before a fall. Sounds like you are going to take that fall. Do it with dignity and with hope that you are in time to benefit.


66 posted on 11/08/2012 6:55:07 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: concerned about politics

Stone Age? Only if you want to go back there.
As for the rest of us we are forging ahead hoping that we can prevent what you fear most.
History has upheld the fact that we have slid back from time to time - BUT - in the process we have always done what was necessary to take a giant leap forward instead by accepting responsibility for our actions.

Are you going to take responsibility, do what you know is right and NOT what is just convienment?


67 posted on 11/08/2012 7:06:06 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: PR1776

Can you REALLY put a percentage on what is right and wrong.

You should know by now that the majority of people do as they are told and “thought or reason” has NOTHING to do with anything but how they vote.

Vote and LIVE what you know to be right, not what someone else has been brainwashed to think.


68 posted on 11/08/2012 7:10:59 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: concerned about politics

I am mad also.
But I am fighting back just like I did after I got back from VietNam.
I KNEW I was right then as I know I am right now.
I fight for EVERYTHING I get.
I will ALWAYS fight for what I think and know to be right.
To do less is to admit that humans have no place on this earth and should just do as they are told by people who have no sense of right or wrong and only what benefits THEM.


69 posted on 11/08/2012 7:16:41 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: concerned about politics

I found that the less I depended upon income and paying taxes, the less I needed to live on.

Right now I am living “Relatively” high on the hog based on what others are doing.

I am more (MORE) than comfortable and have plenty of cash to invest. I never could have done that when worrying about what the government was telling me what I could and could not do.


70 posted on 11/08/2012 7:21:10 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: MNDude

NOW - Do something dramatic.
FIGHT BACK in every way you can.
Say NO whey they expect “Yes Sir”
Say F**K you when the tell you to do it their way way.
Ignore them when they sent you demands. Play dumb.
It is totally amazing (legally) when you play dumb because they can’t do much when dealing with someone who refuses to recognize “their” reality.


71 posted on 11/08/2012 7:27:47 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: jongaltsr

bookmark for halt-their just deserts


72 posted on 11/08/2012 7:28:22 PM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: Chickensoup

I dont want the government in my life either.
The object right now is to “bleed” them by using medicare to the max,and taking Social Security.
Diminishing your need for income is counter productive. You need to BLEED the system so that NONE of us ever needs to depend upon them every again.

Then You Can TRULY live free.


73 posted on 11/08/2012 7:34:03 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: jongaltsr

I dont want the government in my life either.
The object right now is to “bleed” them by using medicare to the max,and taking Social Security.
Diminishing your need for income is counter productive. You need to BLEED the system so that NONE of us ever needs to depend upon them every again.

Then You Can TRULY live free.
________________________________

Cloward Piven isnt my taste. This is what Leftists do.

I prefer scaling back and not providing the life blood. You let the government provide and it is in your life. My self respect would not let me beg at the governemt teat.

Sorry.


74 posted on 11/08/2012 7:37:26 PM PST by Chickensoup
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To: jongaltsr
Plead ignorance. They can’t charge you for being (dumb). I have personally seen this scenario played out. My sister-in-law, that makes a LOT of money (millions at the time in the 80s), is hispanic. The IRS dragged her into court planning to have her thrown in jail for tax evasion for paying zero taxes (for which she was quilty 10+ times what they assessed.) She played dumb as a box of rocks. I was incensed because at the time I thought it was an honor and a privilege to support our military. She got off scott-free. They zeroed her debt. I was dumbfounded (and fizzed.) Now? I want to pull off exactly what she did. The government can now officially kiss my zzz.
75 posted on 11/08/2012 7:37:40 PM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: concerned about politics

live small but free - we all applaud you.
BUT
to really be effective you MUST help us BLEED the system as much as possible so apply for Social Security, Food stamps, etc......
The quicker the government collapses the better it is for everyone. Then we can get back to Constitutional Government and Freedom.

Don’t pay taxes. Barter. Grow your own food. ETC.

But help your fellow citizens by putting a stop to BIG GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION by bleeding it to death.

Let us return to Freedom and the Constitution and the only (ONLY) way to do that is to take, take, take until they dry up.

The sooner we dry up the money supply the quicker the scroungers (as you call them) will have to start working or starve).

Help by fighting, not by giving in.


76 posted on 11/08/2012 7:43:23 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: MayflowerMadam

nonelectric gadgets, gasoline, etc is great if you are of that persuasion BUT doing it because the government has forced you to do so is not reasonable.

That means that THEY win and YOU lose.

Fight back. Demand all benefits due to you. Social Security, Food Stamps, etc until such time as the government collapses under it own weight.

That way we ALL win.


77 posted on 11/08/2012 7:48:27 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: bgill

I am a VietNam Vet and never expected one dime from Uncle Sam but now I am getting close to $60,000 from the VA and SS. I don’t expect it to last but most every penny goes into gold and silver because I know that this will not last.

Please help me and all Veterans and even those who worked all their lives to have a nice comfortable life of retirement by helping to bring thing (Communist) government to its knees so that we can one day live free again.


78 posted on 11/08/2012 7:55:55 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: Soul of the South

Correct. Learn a “simple” skill that will benefit everyone.

- and get paid in cash which is not reported to the Government. (Commies/Liberals/Fascists/Democrats)


79 posted on 11/08/2012 8:00:32 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: jongaltsr

Fight back. Bleed the bastards to death so that we can once again institute the CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.


80 posted on 11/08/2012 8:03:00 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: jongaltsr

Fight back. Bleed the bastards to death so that we can once again institute the CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.


81 posted on 11/08/2012 8:03:13 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Do as John Galt did.
Drop out.
take minimum paid jobs
work on your skills in private for the day when you will once again be needed.
Kill the greedy, help the needy.
Live like a man, not as a slave.


82 posted on 11/08/2012 8:09:18 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: 2nd Amendment
“We were beaten by a coalition of “

Lazy people who call their selves conservatives and either didn't vote; or voted for some oddball 3rd party candidate.

The fruits of Obama’s 2nd term is squarely on their shoulders. Because Romney “wasn't conservative enough”. They are idiots.

83 posted on 11/08/2012 8:09:51 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Hail to thee.

May we meet sometime - I know it will never be in hell because we are already there.

Heaven is where the good and worthy meet. (See you there).


84 posted on 11/08/2012 8:14:06 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: nascarnation

convert pensions and 401K to gold/silver ASAP


85 posted on 11/08/2012 8:16:07 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: nascarnation

convert pensions and 401K to gold/silver ASAP


86 posted on 11/08/2012 8:16:13 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

fifty 2 (fifty shmoo)
You lose because this economy will not last long enough for your money to mean anything.
You will just have to start over.
Convert to REAL MONEY - GOLD & SILVER and then hide it so that IRS can never find it.
BE VERY CREATIVE and don’t hide it in a Safety Security box or a Safe or taped to the top of your chest of drawers.


87 posted on 11/08/2012 8:22:22 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: Chickensoup

Lefties know the system.

Your best is to out “best them”

Trying to be to right and moral does not work in the current system.

THEY are doing just what works and they know it. Your don’t want to admit it but you had better jump ship before the Titanic sinks. They know it is sinking and are taking full advantage while you remain ignorant and don’t know it.

THEY WIN. You lose.


88 posted on 11/08/2012 8:33:38 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: jongaltsr

TO ALL CONCERNED.

I LEFT VIETNAM 2 DAYS BEFORE McCAIN WAS SHOT DOWN OVER N VIETNAM.

I WAS BLOWN UP THREE TIME (I THINK). I REMEMBER TWO TIMES - THE THIRD TIME I VAGUELY REMEMBER PARTS OF.

COINCIDENTALLY, I WAS 50 - 60 FEET FROM NUEN NOK LOAN WHEN HE SHOT THE VC IN THE HEAD ( NEWSWEEK COVER PAGE ).

I WAS PERFORMING AN EXTRACTION OF 3 OF OUR MEN FROM A (SUPPOSEDLY SAFE REGION OF SAIGON)

I HEARD THE SHOT AND MEN AND MY COMPANIONS ALL TURNED OUR GUNS ON THE SOUND OF THE SHOT (50-60 FEET AWAY),
I SAW THE VC DROP TO THE GROUND AND THE NATIONAL POLICE REACTED JUST AS WE DID. WE ALL FACED EACH OTHER WITH WEAPONS AT THE THE READY (SAFETIES OFF)

NUEN NOC LOAN SAW US AND WAVED OFF HIS SOLDERS.
HE RECOGNIZED ME AND I WAS ALREADY AWARE OF HIS PRESENCE.
I DID NOT KNOW THAT THAT SCENE WAS PHOTOGRAPHED FOR OVER 15 YEARS WHEN I SAW IT ON THE COVER OF NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE.

NUEN AND I HAD DINNER THREE TIME PRIOR TO THAT INCIDENT BUT WE NEVER SAW EACH OTHER FROM THAT DAY FORWARD.

WHEN HE SAW ME HE SAID “YOU NUMBER 10 GI” WHICH WAS A BACKHANDED COMPLIMENT AMONG FRIENDS.

HE LOST 4 OF THIS FAMILY THAT DAY.
WE LOST A 5 YEAR OLD WHO WAS TAKEN BY THE VC, A 8 OLD BOY AND A 12 YEAR OLD GIRL PLUS THEIR GRANDPARENTS WHO WERE BABYSITTING THEM AND WHO WERE ALL SHOT IN THE HEAD AND IN HE DITCH AND WHO WERE MEMBERS OF OUR BARRACKS MAMASONS.

THEIR HUSBANDS WERE VIETNAMESE FIGHTER PILOTS AND NEITHER MOTHERS OR HUSBANDS KNEW THEIR CHILDREN AND GRANDPARENTS WERE ALL DEAD AT THE HAND OF THE VC UNTIL MUCH LATER THAT DAY AND THAT NUEN HAD JUST SHOT THEIR ASSASSIN.

NUEN NOC LOAN LOST MEMBERS OF HIS FAMILY THAT DAY. OVER 65 BODIES WERE FOUND IN THE DITCH BEHIND THE BUILDINGS WHERE WE WERE STANDING.

MY TEAM WAS NEVER AWARE OF THIS. WE WERE JUST TRYING TO GET OUT GUYS OUT OF AN APARTMENT AND BACK TO THE BASE.

I DID NOT KNOW THIS EITHER UNTIL WELL OVER 15 YEARS WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS PICTURE ON THE COVER OF NEWSWEEK


89 posted on 11/08/2012 9:19:28 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: jongaltsr

I have a professional paint buffing system. Gets scratches, oxidation, everything off paint & makes a car look like new. I LOVE waxing.

Here’s what I did to a boat as below the scratch looked the same as above:

[IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/2s627i9.jpg[/IMG]

Door knocking/fliers/friends & family.

$80 per car, $100 per large boat, truck or SUV.

Cash.


90 posted on 11/09/2012 2:39:50 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (I'm PISSED!)
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To: jongaltsr

Oh dear God.

Thank you for your service.

May He give you strength ...and peace.

Thank you.


91 posted on 11/09/2012 2:49:16 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (I'm PISSED!)
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To: jongaltsr
Plead ignorance. They can’t charge you for being (dumb).

Uh... yes, they can.

You are woefully uninformed. Rely on a tax expert before you offer tax advice.

92 posted on 11/09/2012 4:19:22 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: jongaltsr

Lefties know the system.

Your best is to out “best them”

Trying to be to right and moral does not work in the current system.

THEY are doing just what works and they know it. Your don’t want to admit it but you had better jump ship before the Titanic sinks. They know it is sinking and are taking full advantage while you remain ignorant and don’t know it.

THEY WIN. You lose.
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They arent winning. Depriving the system by becoming small is just as effective as bleeding the system. And there is no government in one’s life. Remember when the government gives you food, they decide what you eat, when the government gives you healthcare they decide when you die. Ask citizens of totalitarian regimes.


93 posted on 11/09/2012 4:50:57 AM PST by Chickensoup
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To: HereInTheHeartland

hear hear! We lost by only one vote in the Reichstag! It don’t make any difference. Let life go on as before. Don’t worry about the captive press or that your neighbor will pay more taxes. Get your Obamaphone. “to each according to their need”


94 posted on 11/09/2012 5:39:59 PM PST by 2nd Amendment (Who is John Galt?)
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To: APatientMan

PR1776 is a troll.


95 posted on 11/09/2012 6:33:36 PM PST by babyfreep
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To: jongaltsr
...you know that all of your cohorts are now exposed.

We are not hiding or taking extra steps to be exclusive. How are others going to catch on or get involved otherwise? We are just Americans helping out our friends and family from time to time. There are no records.

By the way. Two of them are/were democrats (that I know of). I don't know if they voted or how. We don't talk politics for the most part. But each every person is very reliable, hard working and trustworthy.

96 posted on 11/10/2012 6:16:39 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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