Skip to comments.Need Advice on Purchase of Automatic Weapon
Posted on 11/09/2012 4:41:12 PM PST by Tail Gunner John
I have now gotten religion on the need to purchase my first automatic rifle. I have very little personal experience to draw upon in making my selection. I'm looking for an economical but reliable weapon. My goal is to buy the rifle and lay in a reasonable supply of ammunition for less than $1000. Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.
No way you’re going to find any Class III weapon for less than multiple thousands.
Buy it on the down low no paper trail !!!!
buy a book on firearms first so you can learn what the difference is between an automatic rifle and any other rifle.
Perhaps you meant SEMI automatic?
If you really mean automatic and not semi-automatic, $1000.00 will get you lots of ammunition, but nary a single automatic pistol, rifle, or shotgun. :(
Less than $1000?? Move to a third world country. In the US, you are looking at a minimum of $5k for the cheapest Class III weapon you can find (if you can find one right now).
What will you use it for? Self defense, hunting, multi-purpose?
Unless you have a class III federal license you can’t buy an “automatic” weapon. Even then you’d need about $25,000 to buy a decent one.
If you mean semi-automatic then you can look around. I have a Bushmaster ar-15.
Either way $1000 isn’t enough for the rifle and a ‘decent’ amount of ammo. Depends what you mean by decent. Generally its about $400-$600 per 1000 rounds for quality ammo.
John, is your real name Holder?
I am guessing you mean semi-auto. I have noticed Wal-Mart has the Ruger mini-14 or whatever version it is, for around $600.00
It is not the most accurate rifle around but is accurate enough plus it is reliable. Get several high capacity mags of good quality and then buy name brand ammo whenever you can find it at a good price.
You will probably get a bunch of wise asses sniping at you because you wrote “automatic” instead of “semi-automatic.” It would be quicker for them to be helpful than to talk down to you, but, you know, they need to look superior.
A good place for you to start looking is at your local sporting goods store. A very basic AR type can be had for $500 and up. You will pretty quickly discover you want to acquire some add-on for it, extra magazines, scope, etc.
Another suggestion is to stop by gun shows. This is especially good because you can often avoid the old paper trail.
Good luck in your quest, and don’t let the snipers get you down.
Excellent suggestion, I picked up a Ruger 10/22 in polymer on sale for less than $100, then got 10,000 rounds and 3 x 30 mags. Lots better training and I save my .223 for the Ruger 556.
Way more fun!
I recommend the M-60!
You need to be more specific -
Protection or hunting - urban or rural environment? You want it with or without optics and does that include ammunition? A little more information on your end will greatly change the recommendations on ours.
I need a small thermo nuclear weapon. Any advice? Do Ineed any special permits, or a bass boat to haul it around in?
They’re not “automatic”, they’re just mechanically promiscuous. “Automatic” is discrimatory, and judgemental.
I see what you did there... Well played.
I just bought a Rugar SAR for $200+ (I know it’s not top of the line). Can add “stuff” to it. All I owned before election was a handgun but now things are looking different.
For 1K you can get any number of nice AR 15 platforms, but they are semi auto.
You wont get an auto for less than 20K
It’s a b*tch trying to find spare barrels and replacement parts too. And my ammo bearer went off to college.
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So, you might get them cheaper there.
Colt 6920 is an excellent choice. There was a smokin deal at
DSG Arms for $995. Elsewhere it is $1150. They told me the nite of the election they sold the 26 in stock and next day got 30 calls for more. Get on their system they will notify when it is back in. No doubt the best price evah for the 6920
A few notes to add...
It’s a federal crime to own an auto without the proper licensing which you much carry at all times with the weapon.
Many thousands to buy these. Converting a semi to full auto is a federal crime.
If the purchase is because of fear of where country is heading, these are tracked weapons. Be the first ones picked up if things fall apart. Any crime committed with a similar weapon means Feds will visit everyone with a similar weapon.
Full auto burns a TON of ammunition. Very fast. Not really suited for hunting or defensive purposes. You’d need a huge stockpile of ammo. It’s expensive. Also very inefficient.
Friend of mine has a collection - all properly licensed. You can burn through a dozen clips in thirty minutes going back and forth. Takes a long time to reload them.
Don’t think this is the direction for the original poster to go.
I thought this was a thread about fully-automatic gins. Sorry.
Walmart is now selling AR 15s.
I understand the scoped Sig Sauer M400 will be on sale on Black Friday for $800
AK with a bumpfire stock is probably about as close as you can get to an auto for around $1000. But you probably just meant semi-auto, right?
Don't get a chance to do that much, lately...
Get yourself a well made AK-47. Not terribly expensive. Rock solid reliable. Inexpensive ammo. Now many would say they are not accurate. I suggest the AK-47 shoots straighter than most people can. I doubt you could get the great optics that can be obtained for the AR platform but I am not certain about that as I have not searched for any.
Shouldn't the barrels be pretty common? After all, the ATF's repeatedly said the lower-receiver of the M-16 is the 'machine-gun'.
Stick with a phased plasma rifle . . . something in the 40 watt range.
The AR bumpfire stock works much better.
LOL. I was kicking myself for not writing that first. Much better joke than mine.
Wonder if anyone has tried that type of stock on a Saiga shotgun. I’d like to see a video of that.
On topic.. I often refer to my autoloading rifles, shotguns and pistols as autoloaders, even though they only fire one round per trigger pull.
The revolvers and bolt action rifles, I mostly call 'tack-drivers'. The non-autoloading shotgun is called 'Clem' or the coach gun.
I wouldn't own a full auto in a caliber smaller than .20mm. Waste, in my opinion. Besides, I'm poor now, and don't run in those circles with guys that spend $5000US for a weekend of shooting anymore. ;)
“I need a small thermo nuclear weapon.”
Birdman Weapons Systems has it:
Birdman also had the compact Barret .50, and the “homeboy” night sights:
For this money, the closest thing you can do is get a “SlideFire” stock, which is a controlled way of doing the bump fire techniques, and having had one I know it works. Here is my brother shooting a semi-automatic AK74 with the Slidefire stock:
I can start with LOL.
You need to research this a little better. Class III license will eat up 2/3rds of your budget, then your DROS.
Then go to Gunbroker.com and see what you can get for around $2,500 that’s reliable.
You’re also going to need a tool kit to maintain your weapon.
There’s a bunch of other things you need to consider and a couple hundred rounds to practice will cost $.25 cents per round to $1.50 or more depending on what arm you eventually settle on.
I don’t know.
I have seen guys bump fire saiga 12’s but I bet its a bitch.
All of the above...
See post 38. The recoil almost pushes the guy out of frame.
Class III AR-15 full-auto, suppressed, will cost $5-7,000 easy, if you can find a good one. I have several, plus Class III AR-10s and won’t part with any.
PS - That was 2001 prices. They’ll be well-upwards of $13-15k, if you can even find one, in this day and time.
No, if he doesn’t have enough firearms experience to even get the get the terminology right, he needs to take a class on how to operate a firearm safely before someone gets hurt.
I bet it works better on an AK 74 than an Ak 47, but I think the short stock on the AK makes it difficult to use proficiently.