Brace Yourself: Islamization of Europe Is A Good Thing

YNet News ^ | 11 November 2012 | Kobi Nashoni

[KGeorge]

Islamization isn't only happening in Europe. If these are our "allies", I'd sure hate to hear what our enemies have to say about us.

According to Rabbi Baruch Efrati,

"Jews should 'rejoice at the fact that Europe is paying for what it did to us for hundreds of years by losing its identity.' "

"With the help of God, the gentiles there will adopt a healthier life with a lot of modesty and integrity, and not like the hypocritical Christianity which appears pure but is fundamentally corrupt," he explained."

"even if we are in a major war with the region's Arabs over the Land of Israel, Islam is still much better as a gentile culture than Christianity."

He added, however, that Jews must pray that the Islamization of most of Europe will not harm the people of Israel."

[trebb]

I’m starting to believe that Islam will be the one-world religion that is supposed to be in place for the end times. It is the only one that is oppressive enough to require the mark of the beast.

[jjotto]

Consider this is ynet, devoted to slandering all religious Jews. They may be twisting the rabbi’s message.

Europe (and it’s successor America) is guided by the angel of Esau/Edom, meaning they live by the sword and materialism, at their best when applying Biblical morality to these pursuits.

Disarmament and Gaia-worship mean inevitably a loss of identity to the more vigorous monotheism of Islam and the angel of Ishmael.

[elcid1970]

“..when the Chinese take over Central Asia, expect a bloodbath.”

Interesting (off topic I know). I was deployed to Uzbekistan; the Uzbeks I talked to were wannabe Russians, every one. They were indifferent about Islam and regarded Afghans as dangerous fanatics. They stressed that Uzbeks are eastern Turks and not western Asiatics. They regard the Uighurs in China as siblings.

That’s FWIW. Central Asia is in the Russian sphere of influence; Moscow won’t give it up easily.

[Cronos]

true enough. My dream though is for the Russians to take Constantinople.

[Gluteus Maximus]

I am 100% sure that our fellow Freepers who happen to be Jewish like Yehuda or ari would never even dream of voting for 0.

That's great, and I appreciate that. But it misses the point, which is that 70% of American Jews did support Bathhouse Barry. That's such a supermajority figure that we're clearly talking about ethnic block voting against US.

I'm glad that all six of the good folks Yehuda describes are truly with us. But that leaves the rest of them who are truly against us.

And that's just an arithmetical fact. Let's all deal with that most unavoidable and fundamental fact, and let all further discussions on the subject proceed from it.

[Oratam]

a pox on both your houses

[Cronos]

I'm glad that all six of the good folks Yehuda describes are truly with us. But that leaves the rest of them who are truly against us.

But note this GM:
1. The rest of "them" are not freepers, most likely are not even going to read. Liberal Jews will go on Huffpost etc. like liberal Christians. So any statement against them on this forum is useless. In fact it's worse than useless as it hurts our conservative Jewish FRiends and does not reach the liberal Jews. If you wish, say this on huffpost etc. and that will target the right (or should I say left) audience
2. 69% is not enough to talk of an entire community's will. I would put it at more than 80% (using the pareto rule).

[Olog-hai]

Not sure that Marx had the idea of a wholly industrial monolith in which communism/socialism was to spring up. The many concepts vis-à-vis centralization (communication, transportation, banking) appear to be independent of the concept of transfer of power from wealthy hoarding class (so-called “bourgeoisie”) to the lower working classes (so-called “proletariat”) anyhow—and centralization of such powers is not in any way an anarchist tenet. There are the other planks in the Manifesto in regards to agriculture, especially numbers 7, 8 and 9:

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of wastelands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country. …

So in that case, even an industrially-backwards country is a target for communists.

In the case of Ireland, it was Irish landowners that kept things agrarian; the one exception was Ulster, which did see industrialization. The Parliament was not all-powerful, or else home rule for Ireland would never have passed. James Connolly was an ardent communist, not an anarchist, and he was not alone in the Irish Republican Brotherhood (aka the Fenians).

[Sherman Logan]

You are seriously reading comprehension challenged.

I posted, “Well it is just a fact that in the last 1300 years (and particularly in the last century) Christian Europeans (and anti-Christian and post-Christian Europeans) have killed a great many more Jews that Muslims have.”

You altered this by deleting phrases (without ellipses) to completely change the meaning. This is dishonest and unworthy of someone who claims to be conservative. We should leave this to liberals.

Christians who killed Jews were never doing Christ’s work. But a lot of them thought they were. The last “Christian” pogroms took place in the Russian Empire in the early 1900s.

Thereafter the killing was done, as I specifically said and you chose to remove, by “anti-Christian and post-Christian Europeans,” such as, notably, though I did not specifically name him, Hitler, who was openly anti-Christian.

I may or may not be a jackass or a dick, but I do not intentionally lie about what others have said.

But enough about your lies. Do you dispute my statement’s factual accuracy?

“Well it is just a fact that in the last 1300 years (and particularly in the last century) Christian Europeans (and anti-Christian and post-Christian Europeans) have killed a great many more Jews that (than) Muslims have.”

During the 20th century the anti-Christian Nazi regime killed 6M or so Jews (though a bunch of this regimes supporters were, or thought they were, Christians) and the anti-Christian Soviet regime killed a bunch more.

How many Jews have Muslims killed in the last century? Haven’t seen any estimates, but I suspect it is less than 50,000. Which most people agree is a lot less than 6M+.

But then you might have trouble understanding this if your math skills are on par with your reading comprehension and ethics.

[Gluteus Maximus]

Perhaps you would spend your time more productively whining about the majority of American Catholics who voted for obama.

I was raised a Catholic, but I'm not one anymore.

I left for many of the same reasons you're citing against American Judaism. It really got to the point where I couldn't have my good name associated with child molesters, practicing sodomites, Gaia worshippers, and pro-abortionists.

At some point you're known by the company you keep.

I'll tell you what, Yehuda. You say good-bye to Judaism like I did to Catholicism. Then we'll talk.

[Sherman Logan]

I presume you understand the concept of comparing A to B.

If I say that A is more than 120x larger than B, I am not by doing so making a value judgment that B is acceptable.

I am comparing only the relative quantities.

If you disagree with my numbers, feel free to show me where I’m wrong.

[Gluteus Maximus]

Yehuda, you seem like a good fellow worth talking to so I'll ignore for now your many crudities. I would ask that you try to tone it down moving forward.

Let me put it this way. There comes a time when a man must really take a look at the things he held holy all his life and fought for all his life, take stock, and determine whether it's worth fighting for any more.

The RCC, in America at least, isn't worth fighting for, just speaking for myself. Two of the priests I grew up with are doing long prison terms for child molestation. More of them were openly gay leading the queerest of lifestyles and preaching from the pulpit the wonders of homosexuality. This went on for years. I've had relatives and friends who were victims. And what's more, most of them vote Democrat. What's there to save, aside from what's left of my good name by leaving?

As to America, it's over, dude. It's been over for a long time. I fought the good fight. I served in the military. I got educated, paid my taxes, raised a family. Yesterday one of my shiftless nephews (product of the public school system, 30 years old, works at Toys R Us) told me that the whole point of Obamacare was to make me pay for the less fortunate, like him. Pay the bill, man. That pretty much sums up what last week's election just told us.

There's little worth saving in Blue-State America.

What I am willing to fight for is Red State America. I want to secede from Blue State America. That's the way for us to go.

Hey, most of the Obama Catholics and Jews are living in the deep Blue areas anyway, so one good way to get rid of them would be to kick those areas out of the Union.

That's what I want. i want to disassociate myself from them completely

I want to secede so I can live with my own kind and for my own kind. And I'm willing to lay down my life for that.

Will you join me in that?

[KGeorge]

You really are a vicious one. And transparent, too. I am aware, due to the weekly KKK & White Supremacist stories in the news, leading up to the election. BOO!, that these 2 have superseded Muslims as the new boogeymen. Not a very smooth segue.
Being somewhat up to date wrt what’s going on in the world doesn’t confer membership in either the KKK or ... there *aren’t* any Nazis. I imagine they’re all dead by now. I’m not going to ask you “What’s up with that?” because I don’t care. Your problem.

The woman in the video, Barbara Spector, & the Rabbi from the article I cited are of the same mindset. Ms Spector is the founder of The European Institute For Jewish Studies- Paideia, so I would hardly call her a “kook” or off the reservation. They’re saying the same thing. Pardon me for finding it disturbing.
Europe has been & is being overrun by people from the Middle East- just as Ms Spector & the Rabbi promote. Like the illegal Mexicans flooding into the US, these “immigrants” strain the financial & social resources in Europe just as they do here. And like the US, the European government is catering to the customs of these foreign nationals to the exclusion of their citizens & calling for more of them.
When the citizens complain about it, they are vilified; just as you are vilifying me.

You’re a really nasty, irrational person, Yehuda & you’re obviously outraged that I’m not intimidated by you. I’m done with you.

[KGeorge]

I see. I was confused by your wording it as “(you) keep...and God will show you”
rather than if you had said “if he (the Rabbi) keeps...and God will show him”