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High School Hockey Teams Told to Dump National Anthem
http://radio.foxnews.com ^ | 11/12/2012 | n/a

Posted on 11/12/2012 10:07:25 AM PST by massmike

Nearly 200 high school hockey teams in Pennsylvania have been advised to eliminate the national anthem because it takes too much time to perform and costs too much money.

“We are recommending the national anthem not be played or sung or whatever it is,” Ed Sam, commissioner of the Pennsylvania Interscholastic Hockey League told Fox News. “It has absolutely nothing to do with patriotism at all. That’s the furthest thing from the truth.”

Schools were notified of the directive in an email from the PIHL. He said teams are only allotted a certain amount of time to play matches.

Sam also said it had to do with economics. He said ice time is quite expense and the national anthem eats into the clock.

(Excerpt) Read more at radio.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: nationalanthem

1 posted on 11/12/2012 10:07:35 AM PST by massmike
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To: massmike
Wow...somebody looking at economics....what a concept. Of course it has to be at the expense of the National Anthem. What a shame we can’t look at EVERYTHING to save money.
2 posted on 11/12/2012 10:11:26 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: massmike

Why do we play the national Anthem at High School sports? Are these games in any way patriotic? No, we do them because this is an opportunity to teach our children how to show proper respect to our flag, and our nation - when in public. Under “normal” situations (basketball games, football games, track meets, etc) there is not a substantial cost associated with this activity. The school owns the property, and there is no immediate reservation set up following the event. Thus, in ‘normal’ situations - playing the national anthem is a good and honorable idea.

However, when the even it held at a private property, and there is a charge given to the school for each hour - playing the national anthem can take 5-10 minutes; and when you have 3-4 different tournaments being held at the same place, playing the national anthem at each event can take up a lot of time - thus costing the taxpayers more money.

Perhaps, instead of the schools declaring that the national anthem is too expensive, how about giving the parents a voice? Say, increase ticket prices by $0.50 to accommodate the cost of the time required to play the national anthem at these events. Call it a flag tax. Thus, the involved parents who feel that this lesson is a good idea- can pay a little bit more, rather than hitting every taxpayer. Again, under “normal” conditions (football, basketball, volleyball, soccer, tennis, track meets) - these activities are generally held on school grounds, where time is not as valuable as when held at a skating rink.


3 posted on 11/12/2012 10:17:54 AM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: napscoordinator
What a shame we can’t look at EVERYTHING to save money.

Why not keep the National Anthem and do away with the useless ritual of both teams skating past one another while pantomiming handshakes at the end of the game? That takes about as much ice time as the playing of the National Anthem.

Why not eliminate overtime and give one point for a tie...like they used to?

4 posted on 11/12/2012 10:18:07 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: massmike

That’s right. Cut the national anthem to save money so they can keep three or four overpaid, benefits-for-life administrators on the payroll to push paper. While we’re at it, let’s get rid of the American Flag too. That should save even more money.


5 posted on 11/12/2012 10:18:19 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: massmike

A two hour event can’t wait for an anthem that lasts about two minutes?? If the issue is live performances, then just play a recording of the anthem. High Schools and colleges do that for non-revenue games.


6 posted on 11/12/2012 10:19:23 AM PST by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: massmike

Yea, why waste time with all that outmoded stuff when you can just do a snappy “Heil Øboma!”


7 posted on 11/12/2012 10:35:09 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: massmike
“It has absolutely nothing to do with patriotism at all.

This Obama commie needs to go back to school. Our national Anthem is NOT "Deutschland Uber Alles", it is the Star-Spangled Banner and it HONORS the patriots who created and died to protect this great nation!!

8 posted on 11/12/2012 10:39:32 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

How much did it cost(in blood alone), so these kids could play hockey? Sad, very sad.


9 posted on 11/12/2012 10:40:11 AM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: massmike

"I'M LISTENIN' TO THE #$#@ING SONG!!!"

10 posted on 11/12/2012 10:42:33 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Hodar
playing the national anthem can take 5-10 minutes

Five-ten minutes? Do they play all four verses?

11 posted on 11/12/2012 10:43:11 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: massmike
Hey Ed Sam, go puck yourself with a hockey stick...and stick a few hockey pucks up where the sun don't shine.

FMCDH(BITS)

12 posted on 11/12/2012 10:45:41 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: massmike

Someone please investigate who these clowns are. Willing to bet that they are affiliated with some America hating party, such as the Democrats.


13 posted on 11/12/2012 10:47:13 AM PST by Made In The USA (Obama may not be running on his record, but he sure as hell can't run from it.)
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To: massmike
....and costs too much money.

Yep, that sure is a lot of money ya got there.


14 posted on 11/12/2012 10:52:36 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: massmike

Play it between periods, lotsa dead time there. That way you do it twice!


15 posted on 11/12/2012 11:08:24 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: massmike

1 minute to honor the Country is too much time in this day and age. Wow! I’m greiving on thei nside and boiling over on the outside.


16 posted on 11/12/2012 11:16:08 AM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: massmike

They could save a lot by pink slipping Ed.


17 posted on 11/12/2012 11:19:41 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: massmike

The anthem takes 5-10 minute of ice time? Not so.

The national anthem can be sung, respectfully, in a very short time. Joe Duerr, who used to sing the anthem for the New York Islanders, used to practice the anthem over and over until he could sing it in a minute without sounding rushed.


18 posted on 11/12/2012 11:27:06 AM PST by alphadoggie
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To: massmike
Heck, the only good thing about going to Dallas Stars games was watching Celena Rae doing the National Anthem


19 posted on 11/12/2012 11:31:14 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: massmike

For the next 4 years, why not?


20 posted on 11/12/2012 12:21:26 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Our president ... makes big speeches packed full of little ideas" Charles C. W. Cooke)
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To: NonValueAdded

Games are 3 15 minute periods. Standard ice rental is for either 75 or 90 minutes at 3-400 dollars per hour. There is a 3-5 minute warmup.

My suggestion would be, once the Zamboni is off the ice, before everyone goes out, Play the National Anthem at that time. There is no law saying it cannot be played without players on the ice.

Just saved money.


21 posted on 11/12/2012 12:37:18 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The goal is to equalize outcomes based on race without regard for performance or merit.)
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To: massmike

The next step is to take the kids and keep them in govt dorms and condition them for the world stage in the sport. They shouldn’t be allowed to live at home with their parents. If they are good at hockey, for the benefit of the state they should live in controlled environments. They shouldn’t be allowed any freedom. They might eat junk or get distracted by girls.

What? It’s a free country? Why? People fought and died to make it so? I forgot.

Maybe we need some sort of official public reminder that we are not soviet communists. Hmmm, what could we use...?


22 posted on 11/12/2012 12:43:27 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: napscoordinator
and so it begins...


23 posted on 11/12/2012 12:49:09 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: vpintheak

24 posted on 11/12/2012 3:34:57 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Why not have the players sing it during the warm-up. They could even do the other verses in that 3-5 minute skate-around period! Or even throw in a chorus of Oh, Canada.


25 posted on 11/12/2012 4:09:13 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Our president ... makes big speeches packed full of little ideas" Charles C. W. Cooke)
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To: Fiji Hill
Five-ten minutes? Do they play all four verses?

About half of that is getting the band and/or singer ready - it's logistical. Get the band in their seats, get the kids attention - the typical non-sense you see and expect to see by a bunch of high school kids prior to doing ANYTHING. The sports game really doesn't start until moments after the national anthem, right? So, getting the teams, the band and the announcers all coordinated - takes at least 3 minutes. The anthem itself is about 2 minutes; and the game usually starts about a minute AFTER the anthem has ended. This time adds up - and when you are playing at a rented arena, every minute has some dollars attached to it.

26 posted on 11/12/2012 5:11:05 PM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Fiji Hill
Do they play all four verses?

No way. Fourth verse would be "illegal" on public school property.

Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

27 posted on 11/12/2012 6:18:09 PM PST by j_tull
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To: j_tull
No way. Fourth verse would be "illegal" on public school property.

The third verse would also be illegal

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
The fifth line was obviously inspired by the following:
Like a slave longing for the evening shadows, or a hired man waiting eagerly for his wages.--Job 7:2

28 posted on 11/12/2012 8:57:02 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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