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1 posted on 11/13/2012 5:02:35 PM PST by Kolath
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Governers & legislatures are seeing the price tag of obamacare. Deal killer.


2 posted on 11/13/2012 5:06:54 PM PST by lurk
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3 posted on 11/13/2012 5:09:02 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 89:14)
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I yesterday had a long conversation with my TX state rep to let him know I have no interest whatsoever in paying one cent of increased state taxes that might be required for TX to set up and operate an exchange. He stated that his inclination right now would be to NOT set up an exchange, but that, on the other hand, he feels some obligation to take action to make sure the citizens of Texas have access to the best possible exchange, rather than just leaving them to the mercy of whatever exchange the federal government might set up.

I also let him know that if a state acquiesces to the federal government in this situation, it will serve as a tacit recognition that the federal government does indeed have the right to impose future federal mandates on the country.

I also spoke with a staffer at my TX state senator’s office, and she indicated that the TX state legislature, which only convenes every other year, does not convene until January, and that they only meet for a period of a few months, and that she did not really see that it was very feasible that they could even create an exchange in that time if they wanted to.


4 posted on 11/13/2012 5:31:49 PM PST by mtrott
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The part of the Sebilius decision that ruled Unconstitutional the removal of Medicare funding for States that refused to the Medicaid Expansion may turn out to be the most important part of that decision. BTW, that part of the decision was 7-2 (Sotomayor and Kagan joined the Conservatives).
5 posted on 11/13/2012 5:50:03 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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My Gov in Florida says no, as do I.

I will cancel my insurance next month for the next calender year.
The plan rates are going up yet again, and really, I could get better returns in Vegas at the blackjack tables, based on my deductables and out of pocket costs before any insurance benefits kick in.

By 2014, who knows?
Are they going to imprison retired doctors and attempt to force them to provide “free health care” for the masses?

6 posted on 11/13/2012 6:00:51 PM PST by sarasmom
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Regarding the Hot Air article wihch indicates that the feds are strong-arming ththe states with respect to healthcare programs, please consider the following. What activist Justice Roberts wrongly ignored when he referenced the Gibbons v. Ogden opinon in defending his constitutionally baseless support for Obamacare is this. Here's two excerpts from Gibbons which should have nailed the coffin of Obamacare tightly shut.

The first excerpt is a single sentence which not only clearly indicates that Congress has no power to regulate intrastate commerce, but it also states that Congress has no power to make health laws as one of the examples.

State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress (emphases added)." --Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
And since Roberts identified Obamacare as a tax, then when Roberts actually reads Gibbons one of these days he may be a bit surprised to find that Justice Marshall had as clarified that Congress cannot lay taxes in the name of state power issues, Marshall having clarified that health issues are uniquely state power issues in the previous excerpt from Gibbons.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." --Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
So I think that Justice Roberts and the other activist justices have some explaining to do regarding their constitutionally indefensible decision on Obamacare, the 10th Amendment clarifiying that Constitution's silence about healthcare makes it a state power issue.

The bottom line about the constitutionally of Obamacare is this. Obamacare is glaring evidence that the unique, Article V (Constitution) power of the states to amend the Constitution to grant Congress new, specific powers must be the best kept secret in DC.

7 posted on 11/13/2012 6:53:22 PM PST by Amendment10
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