Skip to comments.Glenn Beck - "Secession is Ridiculous"
Posted on 11/14/2012 7:57:31 AM PST by central_va
Glenn "aka George III" Beck declares secession ridiculous.
Texas is too good for him.
Yeah, King George slapped his thigh and cackled with glee when they told him the colonists wanted to secede.
My bad. Poorly constructed sentence.
secession is ridiculous
People should be protesting the election and demanding Obama resign. That would do much more to save freedom then these petitions.
Secession is the only thing that will get the attention of the beast. What is ridiculous is to take that off the table. It is the trump card that must be held in reserve.
Glenn Beck - “Secession is Ridiculous”, central_va wrote:
Yes secession is not appropriate AT THIS TIME.
Not secession of the red states, but expulsion of the blue states.
For the same reason Canada is not part of the US, because they wanted to have a king, the blue states want Obama, so let them leave the US, and they can spend themselves into a black hole, and it will no longer be our problem to fix their defectiveness and lack of self control.
Just put up a passport regime at the state borders, and limit immigration after a certain date.
There’s nothing that stirs up a leftist like the proposal of secession.
It makes them so upset because they know it is THE trump card, putting out of reach a group of people whom they want to subjugate.
They also know it would be the end of them and their ideology, because with a stark choice between collectivism and individual freedom, those who can produce will choose freedom, and the unproductive will choose collectivism, causing their system to not only crashed, but to be exposed as unworkable.
petitioning for something isn’t holding it in reserve.
What would be the likely outcome of America breaking apart?
So it is not ridiculous, right? Is that what you are saying?
50 million people voted for their freedom, and they were outnumbered. Now they see that those who they voted for, Boehner and others, are willing to cooperate in the further diminution of those freedoms in the name of a “grand bargain.” 50 million people have the God given right, and the unalienable right to preserve their freedoms, regardless of who “won” the election. And if Boehner et al don’t agree, the people must proceed without them.
Some of the states could actually follows the Constitution, or a re-Constitution that outlaws socialism.
There are things you would not do for your freedom, interesting. Anything else? Any other limitations?
Of course it is. How is the new country going to deal with all their people that are currently on federal welfare, health and aid programs?
It is ridiculous. It’s a distraction from the hard work of articulating and selling the benefits of conservatism, and holding our elected officials’ feet to the fire.
Yes, it is ridiculous.
It isn’t going to happen, certainly not legally or peacefully.
Don’t sign the petition either. To do so is incredibily stupid.
Secession is to the leftist/statist as a cross is to a vampire.
“Some of the states could actually follows the Constitution, or a re-Constitution that outlaws socialism.”
Before or after the resulting chaos?
“There are things you would not do for your freedom, interesting. Anything else? Any other limitations?”
So now you turn to insults. KMA You are the one who doesn’t have the balls to fight for America.
Lots of smaller battles (10th amendment) not even engaged yet.
cash box, $ power.
DEFUND. Prepare. Persevere.
Glenn Beck’s show is very good today. HOORAY Glenn Beck!
“—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
Really, and the socialists would fight to keep Texas in the Union? Right. I think they would be relieved.
By tomorrow there will be a million signatures. Maybe Glenn's head will explode. Cool.
I guess they’ll have to move to the “unseceded” states, now, won’t they?
SOOOO glad you asked that question!
Easy...ALL welfare programs will be phased out, or cut off, immediately. No worky, no stay. You'll have to be self sufficient (savings, work, etc.) to live in the "new" country, FRiend ;)
The freeloaders will self deport.
He is warning people not to put their names on the petition.
For those who were victims of the Pooklik Skrewel Kollective, the following is essential:
“Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves.”
They would NOT let any state leave the union, for several reasons,
first and foremost, they can’t stand the thought of someone “escaping” their utopia / subjugation.
Secondly, all the productive people and businesses would move there and leave them without the means to support their socialist system.
How about pieces of states break off and form new ones?
Would that be acceptable?
I guess they will have to live with their families or apply for refuge status and head to the socialist states of America. I really don't care, It is about freedom not about somebodies Govt check. If you can't handle that go to the USSA. AMF.
I did my time dirt bag.
Nobody is going to take a petition seriously. If a million people start marching on state capitols and legislators start actually drafting legal-looking provisions for how this would happen, then... maybe.
But until then, people have to realize the magnitude of what this would mean in 21st century America. You have to actually be fed up enough to divorce yourself from the lifeline that has been crafted to Washington over the past 100+ years. This is not for the faint-of-heart... and it's because we're that squishy that we've gotten into this mess in the first place.
It would take millions that in each state to force such a thing happen. But we can't even get that many people off their posteriors to go vote out the menace... and that's the easy thing to do. So of course we deserve this government: we're too lazy for anything else that's actually accountable.
You really think that would happen in Dallas or Houston? Where would all those new jobs come from?
More likely there would be another revolution inside this new country. Good luck with self-deportation.
Read the history of West Virginia.
What do we have to lose with Secession? Obama? Reid and Pelosi? The MSM? Washington DC? Works for me!
I do see some potential problems: Say Texas secedes. Millions of people who like the idea of no state income tax, right to work, tort reform, part time legislature, pro-business attitude, drill baby drill, etc. would move there right away overcrowding the state. There would be a HUGE stampede to the Lone Star state.
What if they don’t want to or the other states won’t accept them? Where will the jobs for all those that are currently on welfare come from?
What would be the likely outcome of America staying together?
If it outs phony's like Bletch, I am for these petitions.
“Where would all those new jobs come from?”
From the businesses moving there from the former Soviet States of America.
So did I, you are the one talking about running so look in the mirror before you start throwing insults.
This whole thing is an infantile temper tantrum. half of you probably didnt even vote.
I answered the “jobs” part,
and if “they don’t want to”, then they can find some work or go hungry.
As far as the other states not accepting them, that would be ironic, no? The whole point of the other states NOT seceding is that they want to have their “social programs”.
The parasites revolting against the prey?
Wouldn't end well.
For the parasites.
Right, why would that happen? Do you think businesses will feel secure enough to just up and move to this new country?
“What would be the likely outcome of America staying together? “
Depends on whether conservatives can get their act together. If they can’t then America as a whole will fall.
Breaking it apart will only accelerate the process.
They’d sure have to weigh the “freedom to prosper” vs the “security” offered by a fascist state.
Scotland is doing it . The Scottish people will vote for independence from Britain in 2014. Georgia and other soviet Republics voted for independence from the soviet union etc.
How can they deny us the right to vote for our independence and freedom?
Why is Beck against this? My thoughts is Beck is all about making money and who knows what he really believes . He might be a democrat for all we know.
History shows you to be wrong.
Signing a petition may or may not be ridiculous. Opinions may vary. Secession is not ridiculous. If Hitler jr. was elected President would be zieg hieling or seceding?
It would be a lot easier to “up and move to this new country” than it would be to “up and move to a new continent”, and they’re already doing that in droves.
and that freedom to prosper, comes after they are secure...
I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. I’m 62, so if I’m around when this happens, we’ll get to talk about it...but I seriously doubt I will see it in my lifetime.
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