Skip to comments.Rush IS right: The conservative base DID NOT show up for Mitt & giving amnesty will not help the GOP
Posted on 11/14/2012 8:00:54 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
Rush is right! And the GOP-e along with the Morrises, the George Wills, etc, failed in their predictions. Morris admitted he had egg on his face, but I did not see George Will admit this. Maybe he did, but I didn't see it. Are the now obsolete?
Are the Krauthammers, the O'Reillys, the Vannitys, Rollins, etc also obsolete? Is Vannity still going to continue having the same ol same ol on his show? And what about the other shows on FOX News? Are they going to continue having RINOS/CINO guests/hosts on their shows?
Mitt Romney got fewer votes than McCain did. Yes, fewer people also showed up to vote for Obama, but all RINOldus Mittnus had to do was equal the turnout that McCain received (which was a surge of conservative voters driven by Palin being on the ticket (which Ryan could not match)) and Obama would have been defeated. Even better, have a conservative on the top of the ticket, and not some RINO [Mittnus], who has a long history of supporting RINOism (which the numerous past threads here at FR have shown).
Add to that Romney having a RINO past greater than that of McLame and the Romney/Ryanticket was doomed for defeat. Romney running on a promise to rubber-stamp conservative legislation did not undo the mistrust of his past record.
And the GOP-e now thinks that what cost them the election was not reaching out to Hispanics with a message of a pathway to citizenship (amnesty to illegals)? Please.
The GOP-e will try its hardest to shift the blame elsewhere, but they just can't help putting up Ford's Doles, George "read my lips" Bushs, McLames and now RINOldus Mittnus. The GOP-e loves RINOS/CINOS.
But RINOS/CINOS lose.....
What say you about what Rush said a couple days ago?
"And now, to help us understand all this we go to 'The Architect', Karl Rove..."
That was my RACE TO THE BOTTOM for two unpopular candidates.
I do not believe that Romney got less votes than McCain. I do, however, believe that many of those votes were “lost” in the counting, particularly in the swing states.
Many of us including JimRob have been pointing out this outcome. A smaller amount of us did actually abstain from voting to make it a reality.
Nice to see it recognized. Hopefully more will come on board and WE will be able to select the 2016 nominee instead of the GOP-e.
Last time I looked it was about the same ~
I’ve started watching CNN about 40% of the time. I’ve lost a good bit of trust in Fox. Their credibility is way down for me.
But RINOS/CINOS lose.....
"Once upon a time, a pet food company created a new variety of dog food, and rolled out a massive marketing campaign to introduce the product.
"Despite hiring a first-rate advertising agency, initial sales were very, very disappointing. The agency was fired, and a new agency (with an expensive new campaign) was launched. Sales, however, stubbornly continued to crater. (If anything, in fact, they fell even further than they had before.)
"In desperation, the CEO called in all of his top executives for a brainstorming session to analyze what had gone wrong with the two campaigns, and how a new campaign might revive sales.
"The meeting went on for hours. Sophisticated statistical analysis was brought to bear on the problem. One VP argued that the mix of TV and print ads had been hopelessly bollixed. Another argued that the previous campaigns had been too subtle, and had failed to feature the product with sufficient prominence. Still another argued that the TV ad campaign had focused too much on spots during sporting events, and not enough on regular programming with a broader demographic. And yet another argued the exact opposite: not enough sports programming had been targeted!
"After the debate had raged for hour after fruitless hour, the CEO felt they had accomplished damned little. He asked if anyone else had any theories -- any at all -- that might conceivably explain the failure of their new product. Finally, one newly hired employee raised her hand and was recognized.
"'Maybe the dogs simply dont like it,' she offered."
Damned shame that the highly touted brain trust of the (putatively) more "conservative" party of The Big Two doesn't even learn as well or readily as a simple dog food manufacturer, huh...?
The marxists are loving it.
This is false. He'll end up with quite a few votes more than McCain. They're still being counted.
And even based on counted votes so far, Romney got more votes in the "Bible Belt" (OK, TX, MO, AR, LA, KY, TN, MS, AL, GA, SC, NC) than McCain.
If the base didn't turn out then it would have been impossible for Romney to get more votes in the Bible Belt.
So, in sum, this is one of the dumbest, most ill-informed things Rush has ever said.
i respect the right of everyone to vote or not vote, but what did we gain by electing obama? that the country is going to fall so far into a pit that we’ll never recover. i can really understand not loving romney, but i can’t understand allowing obama to completely destroy the republic. i would have voted for a warm turd if it meant electing a new president. now we’re looking at amnesty (big-a@@ mistake). we have pundits talking in 30 second anecdotal soundbites on how to fix things. i don’t know if we recover from four more years. i’m at a loss and i’m very very sad for my kids.
I hope I'm wrong here. But I don't believe it will matter in 2016 how many conservative voters decide to show up or how conservative our nominee will be. We have crossed the tipping point of givers Vs. takers. In 2016 we will be trying to convince government dependents to dump the sugar daddy.
I believe there will be more than 50% of the population at least partly dependent on government subsidies. They will vote for democrats (along with the idealistic elite). Republicans will indeed have to sell the nation on reducing benefits to current beneficiaries in order to stabalize what will be a nation in fiscal chaos. This dog won't hunt today or in 2016.
We'll need a republican politician that is a conservative in a liberal's clothing that sells one thing and then goes Reagan X2 on cutting government regs and spending. We'll need a liar.
I think we missed our chance to turn this spiral around. I would like to believe otherwise and hope someone will change my outlook. But I think we have sealed our fate toward a 30 to 50 years fall from exceptionalism to mediocrity in European fashion.
I would not sell my soul and vote for a gun grabbing, draft dodging, gay marriage law signing, O'Romneycare creating, liberal judge appointing cult leader. This shouldn't have surprised any of GOP elite, we told them for 5 years we wouldn't vote for Romney.
So called conservatives who voted for someone who legislated to the left of Bill Clinton feel free to blast away, my conscience is clean. I don't feel like a two dollar whore today.
Conservatives DID stay home.
a boycott of elections always comes back to bite you in the ass
you said it better than me....gracias (since i apparently will have to learn spanish to be a good republican)
Election Fraud caused the loss - call your governor and SoS and demand a recount.
The lesson that the GOP-e has not learned is that there is so little “middle ground” and “independents” left in the political market place, that it is not worth pissing off the base to gain a point or two. When the base is not enthusiastic, and when they don’t turn out to support RINO candidates, the cost as a percentage of the vote is far to high.
In short, a moderate GOP candidate does not gain enough independent voters to offset the loss both motivation, donations and votes from the base.
Well, as is usual, people are blissfully moving forward in this thread completely ignoring the fact that “Romney got less votes than McCain” and “the base stayed home” is a complete lie.
Based on my analysis of the votes counted and the votes outstanding, basically turnout in 2012 was the same as 2008, with a couple million votes switching from Obama to Romney. But it wasn’t enough.
To win in 2016, the Republician candidate will have to persuade about 2 million people that voted for Obama in 2008 AND 2012 to switch to them. The idea that instead the candidate can, alternatively persuade 4 million more of the “base” that didnt’ vote in 2012 because Romney was a RINO to turn out is a moronic fantasy, because
1) those people don’t exist
2) If they did exist, the overwhelming majority of them are in Southern and Plains/Mountain states that go Republican anyway, and they are thus irrelevant
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