Posted on 11/14/2012 10:38:45 AM PST by DTogo
Supplementing a bolt action Ruger American Rifle in .308, looking to acquire an AR-10 for hunting, range time, etc. Researching manufacturers such as DPMS, Bushmaster, Armalite, but of course in CT there are unconstitutional limitations on models that can be sold.
Your input/suggestions (”Banglist” ping) welcome here.
You might want to check out the Springfield M1A SOCOM. It has a flat top receiver with rails so you can mount a scout scope on it along with lots of other goodies. .308 cal. Very accurate right out of the box. Kinda pricey though.
Not an AR-10, but FN-FAL and other weapons that might trip your trigger.
It has a gas piston instead of a direct impingement system, which I personally prefer.
I'd give you the direct link, but I am behind a firewall.
Side question - Is anyone making a AR-06 lower? Specifically an AR lower that will handle the length of a 30-06? Ideally, I’d like an AR in .35 Whelen. I assume I can get a custom barrel for the upper. Not so sure about the lower. Can’t seem to find much on the web.
I have owned a DPMS in 7.62 NATO for about three years and it is the finest black gun that I own. It has very little recoil... just a bit more that the 5.56 and very little muzzle rise (maybe 2 inches). It will shoot quarter sized groups at 100 yards without special loads. It likes to run wet and has gobbled up every bit of ammo that I have fed to it. If you want a 7.62 NATO semi... this is the weapon that I recommend.
LLS
Yeah, am thinking about the Springfield M1 as well, but like the “M-16” feel of the AR-10.
You can’t go wrong with a Stag. I got one not too long ago at Jo-Jo’s Gun Works in Southington.
Likely that the FN-FAL is not “compliant” in CT, but I’ll inquire. Thanks!
Don’t kill the opposition. Wound them and let them suffer.
A dead man is just a dead man.
A wounded man required medics, transport via ambulance and medical staff.
_ Another thing..... Democrats hate and FEAR guns and once wounded are not going to fight. They will only try and get others to do the fighting for them.
The US military won’t stand for that for long. They will desert, retire and join together and support us.
The trouble is that VERY few people in this country have any spine left so none of this is relevant anyway.
Learn to live under a Dictatorship and shut the fuc* up.
Is that Stag in .308 or 5.56? I’m looking for .308.
The Armalite AR10 more stopping power than the feeble 5.56, thats what the AR stands for. Mine goes bang everytime I pull the trigger, have put many thousands of rounds through it.The AR platform was originally designed by Eugene Stoner for the 308 round.
The Armalite shoots really well, and with the new 25 round mags, it represents a significant defense asset.
Another vote for the DPMS LR-308 series. Whether you get the Scout Sniper trim or the shorty AP4 model... I’ve heard nothing but good things about them. Price, quality, and accuracy.
Also have the DPMS. Great fire arm. Powerful, accurate and reliable. Hearing good things about the kel tec bull pup.
I’m a Saiga guy...even in .308.
I shoot lefty and it's great that brass doesn't fly in my face any more. It sucks in CT, though....The adjustable stocks are illegal. For my .308, I have a Saiga with a BIG bang. LOL
I started as a G3/CETME guy... I’ll suggest a PTR91, cheaper, MUCH cheaper mags and about the same accuracy.
The new VEPRs are another option and now have steel 20 round mags available. They are not quite as accurate, but very reliable.
Disclosure, my favorite .308 is a Galil...
I have the AP4 but I modified it to suit my needs.
LLS
DPMS Baby! Definitely on my shopping list.
Very dependable and can reach out and touch someone accurately.
Also a real nice long distance cordless drill...
I have an AR (5.56) and an FN FAL (.308).
Frankly, I prefer the FAL for function over the AR system. Esepecially the left side charging handle, which is the proper location for a righty.
I shoot the Springfield M1A and I love it.
I passed on the SOCOM because I was hearing all kinds of problems with accuracy beyond 100 yrds.
I think it is due to a 16” barrel.
I went with 18 and it’s fabulous....
Best part is if I run out of ammo it is easily converted to a bat for clubbing zombies .....
Move out of CT first. Then buy the gun.
No questions on this for me -—get a Noveske N6-—
I’d also throw in a geissele trigger and opt for a 14.5 inch barrel with a 1.5 inch flash suppressor (welded on).
Barrel sounds short, but Novezke makes such a good barrel that you be MOA at sick freaking distances still
A friend has the M1A SOCOM and it shoots pretty well out past 200 yards. Not as good as the regular model and I do believe it is because of the shorter barrel. The other thing is that the thing is LOUD and the muzzle blast is a sight to behold!
I have regular M1A with the synthetic stock. It has probably the best factory trigger that I have ever shot. The only thing I don’t care for is the standard scope mount puts the line of sight so high that you can’t get a good cheek weld with the standard stock configuration.
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LOVE my FAL STG 58. It’s a straight-shooting work of art! Even with my tired ol’ eyes, I can keep in on the paper offhand at 100 yds.
Of course, if you want to do long range tack driving, get a barrel longer than 16", but just keep in mind that due to the larger cartridge, the action and barrel of an AR-10 is going to be quite perceptibly heavier than a similar length rifle or carbine in 5.56.
I know a lot of folks don't like direct impingement systems, but I've never had an issue with reliability or fouling, and I shoot a lot of old, cheap NATO spec Portugese surplus ammo.
Rock River Arms has a 308 line.
My rifke started like with an adjustable stock, but I removed it for an Ace skeleton stock. Never cold get used to the movement of the 6 position thing. Learned to shoot with the M-14 with all that nice wood to snuggle up to.
My rifle started like with an adjustable stock, but I removed it for an Ace skeleton stock. Never cold get used to the movement of the 6 position thing. Learned to shoot with the M-14 with all that nice wood to snuggle up to.
Same here. Mine now wears a fixed stock, rifle length gas system and 18.5” chrome lined barrel from Fulton-Criterion.
Well, let me define issue...it never hit me in the face, but it does eject in front of you and is kind of distracting. The Stag 2TL I have makes that go away.
I also have a chrome lined barrel, different stock and optics.
LLS
I too have a DPMS AP4 .308, which is great fun to shoot.
The muzzle blast and noise out of the 16” barrel is a little intense, however.
I don’t know what advantages the SOCOM has over a 16” AR in .308 that justifies the SOCOM costing almost twice as much.
I leave in KahLeeFawnEeYuh. I can’t get a 14.5” barrel.
Freaking Kommunistas .....
Yeah. It’s tough to scope it correctly but I love it without the scope.
I do want the super super sniper one that comes with a Bender & Schmitt scope.
Probably voting another M1 in same config first and a DPMS or FNL before I buy that.
Should this AR-10 platform be applied in a self defense scenario, it would be preferable to terminate the opposition immediately. As for lacking a spine to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, you are addressing the wrong person.
That said, I have taken it upon myself to retrain decades of habit to learn shooting a rifle right handed. Did it with handguns, should work for long guns too. Multiple benefits for me, like being right eye dominant, might finally be able to use a bolt gun, etc.
Thanks for the DPMS endorsement. Now if my usual gun store here in CT can only get some in stock...
After early training and expertise with iron sights that scope users often refuse to believe, I have started using a scope. And embarassed myself. Now finding there is a bit to it, depending on the scope. Parallax seems my downfall now. Did not realize how small movement behind the scope could move POI. Iron sights do not allow that of course so self-correct.
Hate the idea of $$ for a parallax adjustable scope, but may have to.
25 round mags in .308? Interesting!
Next time the Saiga’s come round (in stock) I’ll likely pick one of those up too.
That is being discussed, but we like our home, surroundings, and Conservative friends (yes, we exist here in CT).
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=saiga
BFLR
POF makes a piston AR.308 with a billet receiver but they are not cheap... https://pof-usa.com/16.5-p308-black.html
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