Skip to comments.We can't secede, we are Americans
Posted on 11/14/2012 4:25:19 PM PST by West Texas Chuck
Even, or maybe especially, here in Texas.
If it made any sense at all I would follow what my bumper sticker says. But we cannot separate from The Union. Our country is at risk and I say we have to stay and fight.
This country will never be America again. Secession is the ONLY solution.
Neither is internet petitions. That is just one level above sharing Kony pictures and thinking you are saving children by doing so.
I can disagree with nothing you say. I just got nowhere to run to.
I have lived a good long life, voted many times for many pols. I have nowhere else to go but my beloved Texas. Bury me here.
If the government don't want me, then we are even. I don't want them too.
There’s literally nowhere to run. The only question is how long are you going to take it.
Be a good American Producer Slave:
Pay higher taxes
Accept you job loss
Take the Food Stamps
Pay for someone else’s Healthcare
Take our Guns
Teach our kid socialism is good
Take you internet
High Gasoline Prices
Yeah, we got a lot to look forward to until the Dictator has full authority to make our lives even more miserable. By all means, let’s fight with words here on FR - that will show them! (sarc)
As will a house infested with termites unless they are exterminated in time.................
Standing firm behind an intent to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies should not be termed “secession”. It is those who have betrayed that principle who have left the union of sovereign states and people.
I am no longer a “patriot.” The commie pigs have bastardized the word.
Think of this: I am now a LOYALIST. Loyal to the Constitution that was the root of this miracle known as America.
In the days of revolt from the king, “loyalist” was a term similar to Tory.
Now, I am LOYAL to the Constitution.
I guess that makes me a “Loyalist.”
After being drafted, I Swore An Oath, TO PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.
I never renounced that oath. Communists are pigs hell bent on the destruction of the Constitution, and our country.
I guess that makes me an extremist.
So be it.
Bring it on MOFOs!
If the federal government develops renewed respect for the 10th Amendment, no state would want to secede, because they would have such increased autonomy they wouldn’t want to.
The 10th Amendment was assaulted and all but neutered after the Civil War. since then it’s been a gradual and continuing encroachment on it and the power of states to support a growing federal monster.
Well we’re about out of money. The feds cant bribe states with deficit funded cash anymore.
That will create a vacuum that states reasserting the 10th Amendment can and should fill.
That’s the best way forward for America.
The only State remotely capable of seceding is Texas and not like the way you might think. In about 25 years, they will be seceding as Nuevo Republica de Tejas, a drug-proxy of Mexico.
“A house divided against itself will not stand.”
Exactly. And the nation is irretrievably divided unless our half surrenders to the socialist leviathan.
Count me and my three sons who are among the many not prepared to do that
As a young woman on the brink of entering college, I couldn’t agree more. I plan on becoming a teacher and goodness knows that they don’t get paid crap. It makes me sick to think that someday my hard earned money will be going towards some idiot who can’t get off his a$$ or some other stupid cause and that I’LL be the bad person for objecting to it.
So...rewrite it for today.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.—Such has been the patient sufferance of these 50 United States of America; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present President of the United States is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has appointed czars, of his choosing to be over a free people, and has not adhered to current law
He has passed an onerous law that will enslave ALL Americans with its rules and regulations.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, using our various skin colors to create a division among a once cohesive people.
A President whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
We have reminded our fellow Americans of the tyranny that is to come. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Free Conservatives of America, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Fifty United States of America, solemnly publish and declare, That these are, Fifty United States of America and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
All these secession petitions.
WHAT ARE NEEDED ARE PETITIONS FROM THE STATES ASKING FOR THE RIGHT TO SUCCEED.
I think that the seceding states would still be the real America.
Only if we sit on our hands and wait for it to happen, like the original poster suggests.
I think seceding states would turn into a big mess. They'd be fighting over who was supposed to be in charge 10 seconds after seceding. There would be no cohesiveness and the remaining states would tax the crap out of the separatists.
We are Americans much like Zel Miller thought he was still a democrat.
The party left him.
The country left us.