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To: dynachrome

The old adage “War doesn’t determine right or wrong, only who survived” applies here.

The American Civil War only proved that a more populous, wealthier, more industrialized nation can defeat a smaller populated, more agrarian nation so long as it doesn’t lose it’s will to fight.

I don’t want to find out, but how many divisions would it take to hold Georgia, if Georgia really wanted out?


8 posted on 11/14/2012 7:51:13 PM PST by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in on your feet than it is to live as on your knees.)
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To: Hawk1976

In the Civil War both sides wore uniforms. What if one side doesn’t? Some wanted to continue with guerrila warfare. It would have been very ugly.


11 posted on 11/14/2012 7:55:45 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: Hawk1976

“I don’t want to find out, but how many divisions would it take to hold Georgia, if Georgia really wanted out?”

It would be a nightmare for both sides if it came to that. Just think of how many people living in any random state that you pick, have spent years seeing first hand how modern insurgency operations work. They may have been on the other side of those operations, but I’m sure they wouldn’t have a lot of trouble adopting those same tactics themselves, if they wanted to.


14 posted on 11/14/2012 7:57:02 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Hawk1976
The old adage “War doesn’t determine right or wrong, only who survived” applies here.

The American Civil War only proved that a more populous, wealthier, more industrialized nation can defeat a smaller populated, more agrarian nation so long as it doesn’t lose it’s will to fight.

I don’t want to find out, but how many divisions would it take to hold Georgia, if Georgia really wanted out?


Well, I'm a believer of the old adage from Robert A. Heinlein's "Starship Troopers" where the point was made that "naked force has resolved more issued in history than any other factor." I consider myself a Confederate apologist but you're right. The Confederates did give it a great try, had they won at Gettysburg, I'd say they would have had a chance, especially if the UK entered on their side and/or tried to broker a deal between the North and South. Getting recognition from some countries too puts feathers in the cap too. IIRC during the American Revolution, after we proved ourselves, we did get Spain, France, Prussia and Poland to recognize and help us although they had their own motivations for doing so.
34 posted on 11/14/2012 9:34:39 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Hawk1976
I don’t want to find out, but how many divisions would it take to hold Georgia, if Georgia really wanted out?

How many divisions would it take to get Georgia out of the union?

Fulton and DeKalb counties (Atlanta) were about 2-1 for Obama. The heavily African-American counties running through the middle of the state are likewise Democrat.

Even suburbanites who didn't like Obama at all might prefer the United States to some new country. "Georgia" isn't some being with one will and treating it as such would be a mistake.

Secession is often seen as some expression of the general will beyond politics or as a libertarian strike against government. But it doesn't get rid of corrupt politics or government power.

49 posted on 11/15/2012 1:34:10 PM PST by x
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