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Mom Wants school' Oak Trees Cut Down for Kids With (nut) Allergies
abcnews. ^ | Nov 14, 2012 2:44pm

Posted on 11/15/2012 9:07:17 AM PST by dennisw

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To: buffaloguy

One theory that doctors have is that parents keep our homes too sterile and clean these days, thus reducing enemies for our immune systems to attack, so the immune systems of kids look for something else to attack, such as peanut proteins.


51 posted on 11/15/2012 9:37:00 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: buffaloguy
I would think that a peanut allergy would not translate to a tree allergy.

Glenn Beck discussed this briefly and the peanut allergic kids would have to eat acorns to (possibly) be affected. What kid is going to eat acorns which are very astringent, taste awful?

52 posted on 11/15/2012 9:37:59 AM PST by dennisw ( The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dinoparty
I don’t disagree with you. However, there are some minimal things that can be done as a courtesy to the allergic person, without much inconvenience to the others. It angers me when people object even to these.

Agreed. It really wasn't that big a deal for the airlines to move move from crappy peanuts to equally crappy pretzels. (I am hoping that no one with a super severe wheat allergy doesn't have a problem.) I'd rather it happen outside of the legal process.
53 posted on 11/15/2012 9:38:48 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: dinoparty

I think that’s a HUGE part of it.....the immune system is like a muscle, use it or lose it.


54 posted on 11/15/2012 9:40:25 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: buffaloguy
I would think that a peanut allergy would not translate to a tree allergy.

I was wondering the same thing, but looked it up and found this "Peanuts are a member of a plant family called legumes, which includes peas and beans. (Curiously, although people with peanut allergies are at greater-than-normal risk of tree nut allergy, and for this reason many people with peanut allergies are advised to avoid tree nuts as a precaution, peanuts are not closely related to true nuts botanically.)"

I wonder if the fact that you have one allergy makes you more likely to have other allergies.

I was raised on a farm in the midwest in the 50's and simply noone had allergies. I developed some allergies once I left the farm.

55 posted on 11/15/2012 9:43:53 AM PST by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
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To: dinoparty
However, there are some minimal things that can be done as a courtesy to the allergic person, without much inconvenience to the others. It angers me when people object even to these.

In the same vein, people with really severe allergies also have to understand that even intelligent people don't always no what things like "no sugar" and "no dairy" mean. In the case of the former, I don't know how many don't realize that ketchup is loaded with sugar, and most of those thigs with an "-ose" on the end are forms of sugar. In the case of the latter, my brother-in-law, as an infant was given butter in a Canadian HOSPITAL even AFTER being told he couldn't have dairy. The nurse assumed that he was lactose intolerant. In fact, he couldn't deal with dairy proteins and almost died (butter being a concentrated form and all). How a nurse could make such a stupid assumption with almost no upside and so much downside is beyond me.
56 posted on 11/15/2012 9:44:43 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: dennisw

Mom, tell your rug rats not to eat the nuts!!!


57 posted on 11/15/2012 9:45:04 AM PST by dalereed
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To: dennisw

Prediction: in about 5 years the “peanut butter allergy crowd” will be the newest victim group.


58 posted on 11/15/2012 9:45:54 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: w1andsodidwe
I was raised on a farm in the midwest in the 50's and simply noone had allergies. I developed some allergies once I left the farm.

I was allergic to baby chicks but built up an immunity through proximity.
59 posted on 11/15/2012 9:50:42 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dennisw

I have a question for everyone. Does anyone know of an adult who suffers from a peanut allergy?


60 posted on 11/15/2012 9:53:55 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: dennisw

Listen, lady, you’re going to find nuts everywhere on God’s green earth that you go, unless you are in the middle of the desert or above the arctic circle. So, train your precious one to stay away from them and leave our trees alone!


61 posted on 11/15/2012 9:58:04 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: dinoparty

It is probably not the sterility of the homes but the lack of outdoor play too.

When Icame in every night from playing I was muddy or bleeding. Actually mostly both.

Kids now spend most of their time indoors playing with those stupid video games and watching cable.


62 posted on 11/15/2012 9:59:08 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: I want the USA back

My aunt swore that my cousin was deathly allergic to dairy but my great grandmother gave it to him anyway and he was just fine.


63 posted on 11/15/2012 10:00:40 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dfwgator

And they grab up all the light.


64 posted on 11/15/2012 10:06:26 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Democrats are evil. Republicans are stupid.)
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To: dinoparty
However, there are some minimal things that can be done as a courtesy to the allergic person, without much inconvenience to the others. It angers me when people object even to these.

No sympathy from me. Why don't you demand a private place for all those with allergies instead of demanding the rest of the world live according to your needs?

65 posted on 11/15/2012 10:07:00 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: buffaloguy
"I have a question for everyone. Does anyone know of an adult who suffers from a peanut allergy?"

My prior supervisor is allergic to peanuts and shellfish.

When my daughter was 5 months old, we discovered that allergies to milk and soy were the cause of some severe health problems she had. The specialist who finally diagnosed it told us that eczema was one of the number one pre-disposers for childhood food allergies. Eczema runs rampant in my husband's family.

I couldn't believe the "stupidity" that we had to deal with, from family and friends who just didn't understand it. One person gave her buttered popcorn, and later gave her french fries without checking the ingredient label (they contained both milk and soy). At Thanksgiving last year, relatives didn't understand why she couldn't have most of what was on the table because they weren't making the "sour cream = milk", "butter = milk", "yogurt = milk", "whey = milk" connections. Once I had to start reading the labels on EVERYTHING, I was amazed at some of the products that had milk, that you wouldn't expect.

Luckily enough, she outgrew the soy allergy at 12 months and the milk allergy at about 17 months. Her daycare was great at handling it. Instead of asking other parents not to bring things in (for parties or whatever), they would put a permission slip on the door. All I had to do was read the ingredient list, say "NO", and then bring in something she could have instead. (Vegan cupcakes for birthdays, etc.)

66 posted on 11/15/2012 10:08:50 AM PST by cyphergirl (Not so proud to be in the Freak State)
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To: sockhead

How sad. Oak is a sacred tree from ancient times.


67 posted on 11/15/2012 10:10:00 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: buffaloguy

I don’t get much of a reaction to poison Ivy aside from a little in the webbing between my fingers.


68 posted on 11/15/2012 10:11:15 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dennisw
Well, in this particular case, Glenn Beck is wrong. I worked with a guy who had a severe peanut allergy. He kept an epi-pen handy at all times.

I brought in a PB&J one time (before I knew about his allergy). He stopped by my cube on his way out the door, asked me to step outside, explained his issue, and (politely) asked me to refrain from PB again. As his eyes were already all red and puffy, and he was obviously in some, albeit slight, respiratory distress, I said "sure". Brought Ham, Tuna, etc....no more PB, and no more problems. Up until then, I would have agreed with Beck...figured that you had to eat the stuff to have an issue. So does this lady have a point? Maybe. But if her daughter is allergic enough to have a severe reaction to something as common as an oak, she'll need to learn (quickly) to adapt to it.....rather than asking the entire world to adapt to her.

69 posted on 11/15/2012 10:11:31 AM PST by wbill
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To: dennisw

I have a simple easy cheap solution to this nut case.

From this day onward, acorns shall to be referred to as “fruit”, not nuts. Any adolescent trying to bite into this freshly fallen off the tree “fruit” shall be referred to as “nut”.

From this day onward, “nut” shall loose its classification as a noun and shall retain its position as an adjective to describe a particular mind set.


70 posted on 11/15/2012 10:23:47 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: raybbr

You obviously have no ability to process what I said, you dull-witted man.


71 posted on 11/15/2012 10:28:33 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: dennisw
I have an alternative:


72 posted on 11/15/2012 10:28:42 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: dennisw
Where did all this come from? I can't recall any kids with nut allergies when I was growing up?

Is this an urban thing?

73 posted on 11/15/2012 10:30:36 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: dinoparty

Are you in a city? I wonder if there are as many farm raised kids with nut allergies.


74 posted on 11/15/2012 10:32:56 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: buffaloguy

Is your implication that it must be exaggerated or fake? If so, you are wrong. Watch your young child be rushed to an emergency room as he turns blue, and tell me its fake.


75 posted on 11/15/2012 10:35:30 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

that’s a good question. Don’t know, but would be interested in finding out.


76 posted on 11/15/2012 10:36:27 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: kabumpo
How sad. Oak is a sacred tree from ancient times.

Don't worry, I likely won't cut them down. Oak trees are wonderful and beautiful, but when then thick yellow pollen is coating everything outside and making it tough to breathe...I have unkind thoughts about them.
77 posted on 11/15/2012 10:36:57 AM PST by sockhead (Socialism: trickle up poverty.)
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To: subterfuge

I’ve got 5 acres of mixed trees. If someone moves out here with an allergy they can blow up and bust before I cut down a tree.


78 posted on 11/15/2012 10:37:14 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: buffaloguy

My son developed it at about 18 months, so outdoor play (or lack thereof) wasn’t all that relevant in our case.


79 posted on 11/15/2012 10:38:42 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: dennisw

Some may argue that the nation’s collective nuts have been removed a long time ago.

After all, a bunch of 7th century a$$holes invade sovereign US soil and kill 4 US citizens and a bunch of brave Libyan defenders and we do, literally, nothing about it. This after people on the ground having requested military help continually for several months prior, and during the actual firefight itself.

No more nuts: check.


80 posted on 11/15/2012 10:39:32 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (United States of America - the Empty Oak on the Hill)
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To: dennisw

She’s hot.


81 posted on 11/15/2012 10:40:52 AM PST by Tzimisce (Will there be anything to fight for in 2016?)
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To: dinoparty
Country kids seem to shrug off stuff that cripples city kids.

I believe it is due to a difference in immune system development.

82 posted on 11/15/2012 10:41:52 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: dinoparty

No, not at all. You’re being a bit defensive here. I was just commenting on the lack of that allergy in my youth. And the few people I know who have that allergy as adults.

I had a lot of allergies when I was young, fewer now that I am much older.


83 posted on 11/15/2012 10:42:50 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: kabumpo

“Oak is a sacred tree from ancient times.”

Forget about “ancient times”. In Thousand Oaks, CA, oak trees are still sacred and it’s a pathetic and embarrassing situation. They’d rather see a person die than cut one of their beloved oak strees.


84 posted on 11/15/2012 10:44:04 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: dennisw

sounds like a job for the Cal tree sitters...

85 posted on 11/15/2012 10:49:58 AM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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DITTO THAT..........., watch out for the Squirrels lady.

Need a sign "No squirrels allowed".......that ought to keep those darn rodents from picking up those NUTS.......

Oh my bad, they wouldn't want her anyway.......

86 posted on 11/15/2012 11:11:39 AM PST by annieokie
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To: dinoparty

I think the allergy to nuts is why out of control. They clame it is from woman breast feeding their child too long...who knows? Global Warming. Carbons...nut alergy....all wives tales.


87 posted on 11/15/2012 11:15:46 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: dennisw
“A false sense of security is putting a sign on the door that says ‘nut-free,’ and there’s nuts all over the place,” Giustizia told The Star.

A.k.a. "teachers". And you, Ms. Giustizia, and you.

88 posted on 11/15/2012 11:29:15 AM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: napscoordinator

When did all of this start? I went through 12 yrs. in public school and raised 3 sons who all went to public school....never, ever heard of or met anyone whose kid was allergic to peanuts! My little grandson can’t have PNB and jelly at daycare because 1...ONE...child is supposedly allergic. They give all the kids “soy butter” to accommodate 1 kid. Seems if a child is so allergic that even being in the same room as a peanut could cause death....then, maybe the parents need to keep him/her home.


89 posted on 11/15/2012 11:41:05 AM PST by Jrabbit
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To: cripplecreek
My aunt swore that my cousin was deathly allergic to dairy but my great grandmother gave it to him anyway and he was just fine.

I take it great-grandma didn't like your cousin very much? She was willing to risk his life to prove a point.

At least, that's what I feel like when somebody tries to trick me into eating something I'm sensitive to. Obviously, their being right is more important to them then my health. I'm lucky in that my reactions tend to be mild. (Well, "mild", stomach cramps so bad it hurts to breathe, followed by 2 days of diarrhea. But at least no ER visits, so as allergies go it's pretty mild.)
90 posted on 11/15/2012 11:42:37 AM PST by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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To: Jrabbit

Dunno, had lunch @ my grandson’s elementary the other day, one corner of the cafeteria was cordoned off with “nut free zone” banners.


91 posted on 11/15/2012 11:42:47 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: Ellendra

My great grandmother was no idiot and recognized my aunt for the moron hypochondriac she was.


92 posted on 11/15/2012 11:54:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

I feel almost the same way.


93 posted on 11/15/2012 11:58:48 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: dennisw

“Mom Wants school’ Oak Trees Cut Down for Kids With (nut) Allergies”

Nutty Mom Wants school’ Oak Trees Cut Down for Kids With Allergies

There. I fixed it.


94 posted on 11/15/2012 12:38:45 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: dinoparty
You obviously have no ability to process what I said, you dull-witted man.

LOL I got it just fine. You want, as a small minority, to be able to dictate the actions of a rather much larger majority.

95 posted on 11/15/2012 1:24:23 PM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: raybbr

No, never said that. Readding skills are your friends.


96 posted on 11/15/2012 1:28:39 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: Jrabbit

LOL, you act as if no PBJ is a serious violation of human rights. Get real ... and what are you suggesting with your comment about one child being “supposedly allergic”? Is that “supposedly” dying of cancer, or “supposedly” diabetic, or “supposedly” parapalegic? How is this for “supposedly”: I found out my son was allergic to peanuts at 18 months old when he was being carried into an ambulance, face covered in hives and turning blue from lack of oxygen. Does that sound like “supposedly” to you?


97 posted on 11/15/2012 1:34:17 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: cripplecreek
OK, I do have a dairy allergy. It makes me vomit. My nickname as a child was "Puke" because of course I had dairy a lot and vomited. I did not make the connection until I was an adult. I know what I can eat and what I can't eat. But sometimes things sneak by. I almost always go home and vomit after attending a potluck. No matter how hard I try something will get me. I have learned that cheesecake must be avoided at all costs. One tiny bite is enough.

The one thing that has made this elusive to diagnose is that it takes about an hour after I eat something before I get sick. Luckily once I get rid of the offending items, I am pretty much OK. I do get more heartburn because of it, but have found raw carrots to be a fairly effective antidote.

98 posted on 11/16/2012 7:05:57 AM PST by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
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