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Scientists debate a license to smoke cigarettes
CBS News ^ | 11-13-2012 | Stephanie Pappas

Posted on 11/16/2012 8:26:21 AM PST by Renfield

They do it for coal-burning power plants. So how about something for what many consider to be a walking smokestack -- the cigarette smoker?

Yes, a license to smoke. Simon Chapman, a professor of public health at the University of Sydney in Australia, offers this radical proposal to help reduce the damaging health effects of tobacco, both for the user and the recipient of second-hand smoke.

You may think this is brilliant -- or crazy -- or both. Chapman's proposal appeared Tuesday in the online journal PLoS Medicine, accompanied by an opposing view put forth by Jeff Collin, a professor of global health policy from the University of Edinburgh in Scotland....

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: smoking

1 posted on 11/16/2012 8:26:25 AM PST by Renfield
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2 posted on 11/16/2012 8:30:20 AM PST by nhwingut (This tagline is for rent)
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To: Renfield

What sort of license does someone have to possess to show they’re a “scientist?”


3 posted on 11/16/2012 8:31:09 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Re-distribute my work ethic, not my wealth!)
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To: Renfield

Scientists debate smoking licenses.

Lawyers debate new CAFE standards.

The world is upside-down.


4 posted on 11/16/2012 8:33:42 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Renfield

How would it be enforced?


5 posted on 11/16/2012 8:34:29 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Renfield

But no license to smoke pot in CO and WA?


6 posted on 11/16/2012 8:35:24 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Renfield

A person smoking outside poses no measurable risk to anyone else.

In fact, the “scientific evidence” showing significant health risks indoors from second-hand smoke is at best dubious.

And I hate tobacco smoke as much as anybody.


7 posted on 11/16/2012 8:36:12 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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A person smoking outside poses no measurable risk to anyone else.
In fact, the “scientific evidence” showing significant health risks indoors from second-hand smoke is at best dubious.
And I hate tobacco smoke as much as anybody.

I'm of the opinion that like the TSA, the smoking laws are primarily there to condition society.

8 posted on 11/16/2012 8:41:38 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Renfield

Hmm...looks like another way for despotic governments to tax the hell out of the productive and give to the unproductive, metastasizing, cancer that infects most of the world.


9 posted on 11/16/2012 8:45:04 AM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("The putrid, metastasizing rot of liberalism consumes only the weak minded.")
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To: Renfield

Next on the agenda will be a license to drink alcohol or surpass your daily recommended salt allowance.


10 posted on 11/16/2012 8:45:23 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: stuartcr

You’d have to have a license to purchase them, I guess. America is no longer a free country. They probably want to ‘register’ smokers so they can put them in line FIRST at the 0bamacare death camps. They might as well put tattoos on smokers arms. How far do they go until we fight back?


11 posted on 11/16/2012 8:47:21 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: stuartcr

“How would it be enforced?”

Any store selling cigarettes would have to see your license before you could buy them. I read about this yesterday and they also said they could limit the amount of cigarettes you could buy at one time.

After that, expect to see a license to buy alcohol and limiting the amount you may buy. After that, expect to see a license to buy what they determine to be “junk food”. Maybe you could only buy one hamburger and a small fries.


12 posted on 11/16/2012 8:53:00 AM PST by Marcella ("When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Renfield

How about a license to breathe? After all when we exhale we all emit carbon dioxide, which is now classified as a pollutant thanks to the EPA and SCOTUS. Every mammal on earth will have to purchase carbon credits just for the privilege of being alive.

Even Jonathan Swift couldn’t have dreamed up anything as nuts as the real life we’re going through now.


13 posted on 11/16/2012 8:55:22 AM PST by Argus
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A very illustrative post.
The world has gone mad.


14 posted on 11/16/2012 9:02:26 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: stuartcr
They brand an "S" on the foreheads.

Passing the license test is the one to figure out. rofl

15 posted on 11/16/2012 9:03:18 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Renfield

Telling.

The last bastion of alleged objectivity, the scientific community, believes they should have a hand in legislation.

Well, this is not new.

They’ve been trying to influence legislation by lying about global cooling/global warming/global cooling/global...er, ‘climate change,’ yeah, THAT’S the ticket. WHENEVER the climate changes, it’s because of the behavior of people in western, industrialized, free-market countries.

Yeah, THAT’S the ticket.


16 posted on 11/16/2012 9:04:21 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Argus
How about a license to breathe?

It's coming, just wait. You will be "required" to wear a mask with a meter at all times. That meter is to determine just how much air you have consumed.........you will be taxed on that. SEE?

Failure to comply, they turn off you mask.......

17 posted on 11/16/2012 9:07:33 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Dr. Sivana
Lawyers debate new CAFE standards.

What, you don't think they can legislate scientific advances?

They need to legislate faster than light travel along with their Muslim outreach.

18 posted on 11/16/2012 9:10:14 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Renfield
Simon Chapman is an Australian academic and tobacco control activist.

He is Professor in Public Health at the University of Sydney.[1] Chapman is a sociologist whose PhD examined the semiotics of cigarette advertising.

IOW, not a scientist, academic activist with phoney-baloney degree.

19 posted on 11/16/2012 9:10:20 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (A vague disclaimer is nobody's friend)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Sounds like just another tax on cigarettes.


20 posted on 11/16/2012 9:10:58 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Renfield

I’ve never smoked. This kind of crap is tempting me to start. I’m thinking there is an enormous amount of money to be made in untaxed tobacco.


21 posted on 11/16/2012 9:12:05 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Ingest, not necessarily smoke. One can eat pot while but not tobacco.


22 posted on 11/16/2012 9:13:03 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Argus

Breathing will be cause for a personal carbon tax and instead of getting a deduction for your children they will constitute an additional tax.


23 posted on 11/16/2012 9:29:31 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: SampleMan
I’ve never smoked. This kind of crap is tempting me to start. I’m thinking there is an enormous amount of money to be made in untaxed tobacco.

The most successful dealers don't partake.
24 posted on 11/16/2012 10:24:42 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Argus
Sure, after all this is where its heading anyway. I am not joking by the way. If you cannot get one or get it renewed based on the every morphing criteria that the overlords create, then its off to the gas chamber for you. I can just see it now, the interview, the rectal exams you will go through just to have the privilege of getting a license to breath. And if you are flagged in there database just like people are on the TSA database for flying for example, then tough luck, your time is up.
25 posted on 11/16/2012 1:00:38 PM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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