Skip to comments.Do You Have Friends Like This? [Vanity]
Posted on 11/16/2012 2:26:29 PM PST by Pharmboy
I have had these friends for years...they are retired state workers, currently employed teachers, and people who work for universities. I enjoy their company (so long as we stay away from politics) and do stuff together.
BUT...they really piss me off...why? Because they chose their job pathway to security and very circumscribed work hours. No overtime. No weekends.
Yet...YET...they constantly bitch about people with wealth who have worked for it. Took a chance, and achieve success.
I stick to set hours because I haven’t slept well in 13 years, and I’m already exhausted when I wake up. If I had flexible positions in which I could spend some hours of overtime on a computer, then I’d be all over it.
Endocrine disease sucks, because it’s not always something you can see.
“....socialism has never worked anywhere, your going to find that out”
...is all you have to say to them, if they respond like a child, so be it. Find new friends you can depend on.
Say it to them. If they can’t stand the criticism you are better off with new friends.
I am a newly retired state worker living frugally on a very modest pension. I am the opposite of what you describe (probably because I was not an instructor or administrator). I actually was very much looking forward to retirement to get away from the liberalism of the place, LOL.
ALL government employees are, by definition, Non Producers, people who have never produced a whit of the products or services necessary to sustain an ethical society or civilization.
Your friends are acting exactly in accordance with their position, lifelong looting slackers
Why do you expect them to act differently?
I have a cousin that works part time at Western Michigan university. She wants to be hired full time so she can get the 5 hours per week paid time for workouts in the gym.
However, I do see your point, there are those that expect everything for free, those that voted for Obama. BTW, I got into it with a friend I’ve known since I was 6 in 1972, 40 years, where we unfriended each other because of this election and how we see things.
I taught English literature at a university until I finally retired at 70 (to build my retirement funds up a bit more). I did it because it was what I wanted to do. It would have been nice to be rich, but I certainly never complained about it.
I was somewhat handicapped because I think my salary would have been quite a bit higher if I hadn’t been known as the department conservative, even though I published more than my share. But I certainly never blamed my friends in business, who were richer than me.
It was enough to live on, and even put numerous kids through college, though I’m in debt for the last of them. But I had seen people who worked at jobs they hated when I was younger, and I was determined to do something I could really enjoy.
Plus great vacations, although not enough money to do much with them. Still, even that was better than some of my friends who got two weeks off a year and barely relaxed into the swing of vacation before they had to go back to work again.
Do what you choose to do in life, and don’t complain about it. Envy is stupid.
The makers and the takers.
I don’t understand how you could be friends with them anyway. Liberalism runs through all areas of their life. Not sure what part you’re able to get along with and enjoy. I say find your own kind of friends where you can talk about everything. Life is too short to waste it on obama voters.
To add a P.S. to my comment above, to those who think employees of the “state” don’t think much of capitalism and hard work, there are plenty of state employees who have worked hard and think the more successful in our society should be applauded.
If you snore in your sleep, get a sleep study done of you have not already done so. I was suffering from sleep apnea and feeling tired all the time.
Actually, believe it or not, I encounter the reverse more often. Blue collar types who bitch endlessly about the salaries of white collars.
Long story, but my wife lost her job early in the year. Here we are 8 months later after a couple of temporary assignments and she’s gainfully employed at 115% of her previous salary in a corporation with a wage ceiling twice as high as her previous job. I can’t begin to relate the amount of sour grapes I’ve heard from blue collar friends who’ve been unemployed for much longer.
Stop suffering fools gladly sticking their hands in your pockets.
My tolerance levels have dropped dramatically.
There are people who, no matter what job they take or who they work for, will try and do as little as possible while complaining as much as possible. From the sound of it, your friends fall into this group.
There is nothing you can do that will make them happy. And no changes to their workload or finances will ever make them happy. Kvetching is their default setting, and nobody can change that except them.
I was astonished to find out that my brother has joined that group. He isn’t a government employee, but you should hear the way he rages against conservatives all of a sudden!!
I have mild sleep apnea that’s due to an endocrine disease. When that gets fixed, away goes the sleep apnea.
Hmmm, ok, it is your body but don’t mess around with apnea. It has caused a huge rise in my blood pressure that now has to be treated with medication. There are devices that you can wear at night time that will help with apnea.
Sorry about the endocrine disease.
Complaining is a hobby for a lot of people regardless of political views.
Can't you say it mildly? That there are choices--high risk, high reward, or safe government career. Once you make them, man up. If you're angry when you say it, of course they'll be upset. If you're matter of fact about it... who knows? They might concede the point, and go back to bitching about it later, after you're gone.
Would your tagline be referring to following quote?
Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and gave him triumphal processions. Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the new, wonderful, good society which shall now be Romes
I have had co-corkers with that attitude, but they never last long.They never stop coveting what others have, and almost always cause dissension and drama in every workplace.
I myself purposely chose lower wages and stable hours, in order to raise my child.And it was my choice.
Prior to having a child, I was not so “risk aversive”.
I know of many fine teachers and government workers in different jobs who do not have that loathesome attitude.
I do believe it is one of the ennumerated sins proscribed by the ten commandments. Whether one is a Jew, Christian, or just a person with a civilised moral code, its a good rule of thumb to follow.
I buy my weekly lotto ticket, and look around at things I might have if I were wealthy. But I also think about how that wealth will make me a target for thieves and scam artists, should I be “lucky” enough to win.
The gates, barbed wire and guards wealthy people use are to keep people exactly like your “friends” away.
Don’t kid yourself.
If the SHTF, they will join, if not lead the mobs in looting.
Your cousin will never see that benefit. I was there myself. I also went to WMU, but that’s another story....
“I have had these friends for years...”
There is the mistake in your thinking:
Democrats/Liberals/Left-Wingers/Progressives/Socialists/Communists and Totalitarians are not your friends.
They are your ENEMIES, period. Get them out of your life immediately.
I left behind this kind of friends long time ago. I still have to deal with some relative here-and-there, who thinks about themselves that they are so enlightened, smart, and sophisticated.... Periodically, I shatter their Lefty glass bubble. It is not fun, but I take it as a necessary thing to do.
Any person who makes you to hold your honest thoughts back is not a friend. Period. Drop them all, and find some real friends instead. They exist, and waiting to meet you for the same reasons.
Sorry but you are wrong in your global view.....
Clinical workers who serve at the VA are not “lifelong looting slackers.” And no, they are not paid outrageous salaries...that’s for the big shots in DC. The MAJORTIY of these clinical workers work very hard under stressful conditions.
Clerical workers who manage the social Security system,etc are also not ‘slackers.”
Government is too big and there ARE slackers who do not produce or serve a useful function..but my city garbage collector is also not one of those.
I hear ya, most of my wife’s friends are really good cooks... yet they’ll be voting Dem into the next century.
The things we do for food and family. :-]
I don’t anymore.
I understand that...truly. BUT...these people have nothing but venom for successful people on the private side.
ALL government employees are, by definition, Non Producers...
Honestly, I cannot be friends with the enemy.
I respect tat 100%.
Yes...you make excellent points...and yet, these people are so good on so many other levels. BUT...socialists and worse: anti-capitalists.
I saw a guy sitting in a DHS office a couple of months ago with a beer in his hand! -What a sorry SOB!
It's not encouraging at all, most of these people are fully capable of working, but it gives me even more pride in my work because I'm working, sweating and getting dusty lugging computer equipment around and I DON'T have to stand in line for a handout.
The Good Lord warned with the Ten Commandments that "Thou shall not covet" ANYTHING that is another's.
Every slam of the "evil rich" is a violation of that Commandment.
People that engage in envy have no ability to logic, observe, deduce, act ethically or analyze their own human behavior. They can only criticize the behavior of those they envy.
Why, WHY did you have to post this when I’ve been drinking?
Ha...too frickin’ funny.
Your hyperbole is disingenuous!
At least own up to it if you want to “debate”.
“Non Producers, people who have never produced a whit of the products or services necessary to sustain an ethical society or civilization.
Your friends are acting exactly in accordance with their position, lifelong looting slackers.”
The workers I mentioned DO provide services. All government is not filled with “ lifelong slackers”...we need some governmental services. It is only when govt becomes bloated that it is a problem. Entrepeneurs need workers and some government...THAT is also “Economic Natural Law”. Unless of course you believe in econmic anarchy, in which there is no govt.
I tried a CPAP machine, couldn’t go to sleep with it turned on, never mind on my face.
There’s nothing to really be sorry about, anyway. It’s nothing I could’ve controlled by diet or anything else before getting them. It’s something my body compensates for, and has been doing so rather strongly considering the circumstances, for some time now. Bad part is though I feel like my grandfather, who’s 91. We complain about the same things.