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Enterprise interest in Windows 8 half that for Windows 7 in '09
Computerworld ^ | 11/16/2012 | Gregg Keizer

Posted on 11/16/2012 7:00:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Enterprise IT decision makers are about half as enthusiastic about the new Windows 8 as they were three years ago about the then-just-released Windows 7, an analyst said today.

Employees, however, have a higher-than-expected interest in the revamped operating system when it powers a tablet, second only to Apple's iOS, which runs the iPad.

According to David Johnson of Forrester Research, 24% of the more than 1,200 North American and European IT hardware purchasers the firm interviewed in the third quarter said that while they had no plans in place to migrate to Windows 8, they expect to at some point.

The result was half that of the 49% of similar professionals Forrester surveyed in 2009 just before the launch of Windows 7.

Other answers to poll questions in 2009 and 2012 hammered home the trend: 4% this year said that they plan to migrate in the next 12 months, while 5% confirmed they had plans but wouldn't begin in the next year, compared to 7% and 10% who said the same three years ago.

The results shouldn't be surprising: For months, analysts have been predicting a shrug as the enterprise reaction to Windows 8. And Computerworld has found that usage of the new OS seriously lags behind the pre-launch statistics for Windows 7.

Nor are the reasons Johnson cited a shock.

"Most companies are still in the midst of their Windows 7 migrations, or have only finished them," Johnson said in a Friday interview. "They don't have the time or the money for another Windows migration."

In a Friday blog post, Johnson elaborated, ticking off seven reasons why enterprise adoption of Windows 8 is at risk. They included the migration fatigue he spoke of, as well as limited appeal of the apps in the Windows Store,

(Excerpt) Read more at computerworld.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: enterprise; windows7; windows8

1 posted on 11/16/2012 7:00:58 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Tablets are slowly but surely replacing the PC in the enterprise. Really only programmers or say people who do heavy work with Excel probably need a PC over a tablet.


2 posted on 11/16/2012 7:04:01 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
What does..."in the enterprise." mean?
3 posted on 11/16/2012 7:06:51 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s because Vista sucked ass.


4 posted on 11/16/2012 7:08:05 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: SeekAndFind

Makes sense. A lot of enterprises skipped Vista, and XP (2001 release) was getting long in the tooth. So the big migration was to Windows 7 (2009 release). The next big migration might be around 2007, and that’s about 4 years away. This will give MS time to work out all the kinks in Windows 8’s Metro interface.


5 posted on 11/16/2012 7:09:12 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Windows 7 replaced Vista and XP. It works very well, whereas Vista was iffy at best, and XP was getting a bit stale (although it’s still fairly functional).

I don’t see a compelling reason for corporate desktops to change from Windows 7.

Inroads will be made in the tablet area, and possibly with Surface and the Nokia products. Until those really catch on, I don’t see why anyone would want to change over their desktops for consistency with the new Metro interface. And, if you are going to keep the old interface, why bother at all?


6 posted on 11/16/2012 7:09:31 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Tainan

To me it means used by employees of a company....usually standardized equipment which is dictated by the IT department.


7 posted on 11/16/2012 7:10:52 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

OK...Thanks.


8 posted on 11/16/2012 7:11:47 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I bought a Toshiba laptop this summer for work, then one of my business partners bought a new Dell for our receptionist with W8.

Our receptionist after 30 minutes went nuts. like she wanted to cry.

The interface really gives you a headache. Try even looking under “MY COMPUTER’ for our external hard drives and another 1000 icons popped up and it took us 10 minutes to find the damn hard drive.


9 posted on 11/16/2012 7:16:33 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: dfwgator

Tablets are the way to go in the enterprise. Most workers require only email, web based apps, calendars, etc. They are mobile and always on.


10 posted on 11/16/2012 7:21:23 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I don’t see a compelling reason for corporate desktops to change from Windows 7.

The only reason you might is for manageability features. The change in user interface is disruptive.

Server 2012 has some nice features, but it's got it's own change in UI going on in the opposite direction. The default installation is Server Core, and the UI is a command prompt.

11 posted on 11/16/2012 7:26:21 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: SamAdams76
Tablets are the way to go in the enterprise. Most workers require only email, web based apps, calendars, etc. They are mobile and always on.
Uhm…but somebody has to write all those documents and emails that the tablet users are reading!
12 posted on 11/16/2012 7:26:31 PM PST by cartan
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I have a Windows 7. Soon to go bad. I am fed up with buying a new computer every 2 or 3 years because of crashes. I do bookkeeping. I am going to get a Mac.


13 posted on 11/16/2012 7:28:31 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: SeekAndFind
I had a customer say, "I need the agent for your product for Windows 8."

After I had a giggle, I told them, "I'm sorry, that agent hasn't been released yet but give me your email address and I'll contact you the very second it is released."

I do not anticipate ever having to send that email.
Windows 8 is not an impressive presence in the enterprise.

14 posted on 11/16/2012 7:29:45 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: Tainan

There are small businesses and there are SMB...small to medium businesses. Then there are large businesses and very large businesses. Above that there is the enterprise...Bank of America, Home Depot, Wacovia, GE...you get the picture. Companies whose data protection requirements are phenomenally huge and their tolerance for downtime is a big fat ZERO.


15 posted on 11/16/2012 7:34:48 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Now with Tint Control!”

/obscure Bloom County reference


16 posted on 11/16/2012 7:38:20 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: AppyPappy

“That’s because Vista sucked ass.”

Um no. Vista has nothing to do with it. We are currently about 60% complete with our XP to 7 migration. Why should I know dump what I have done for the 12k users we have already converted or scurry and try to formulate a plan to move the remaining 8k users to Win8? We have a plan and its working. I see now compelling reason to move to Win8. Now Server 2012 is different we have already stated upgrading some of our 1500 servers. But none of that was because “Vista sucked”...


17 posted on 11/16/2012 7:45:51 PM PST by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Re: "I don’t see a compelling reason for corporate desktops to change from Windows 7."

Neither do I - for I've already gone back to Windows 7.

18 posted on 11/16/2012 7:47:08 PM PST by Cribb (Home of Conservatism - America's middle class.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Windows 8 is best for touch screen computers. Most Business systems and hardware use keyboards.


19 posted on 11/16/2012 7:57:38 PM PST by jaz.357 ( *Luke 6:43-45* Twas Ever Thus!)
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To: Tainan

“Enterprise” means larger businesses and corporations and includes a centrally controlled internal network. “In the enterprise” - in oversimplification - means “on that internal network.

Some people consider any organization with an Active Directory domain an enterprise network but that’s an overly narrow definition.


20 posted on 11/16/2012 8:19:12 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: Tainan

enterprise=business use


21 posted on 11/16/2012 8:27:42 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s NO WAY I’d unleash Win8 on our ‘desktop’ PC users at work. NO WAY!

These are people that would struggle if you sent out an email with detailed instructions on how to run task manager or something in Windows XP. Windows 8? Not on your life! LOL

On the other hand, it may be an option for our users with tablets, which is where we’ve done all of our testing thus far.


22 posted on 11/16/2012 8:30:00 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: jaz.357
Windows 8 is best for touch screen computers.

Just a guess: you've never actually seen Windows 8 on a PC have you?

23 posted on 11/16/2012 8:31:51 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
Hahaha...sure he has!


24 posted on 11/16/2012 9:08:31 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: dfwgator
or people that sit at a desk all day doing interactive work or data entry... which is prolly the vast bulk of computer users
25 posted on 11/16/2012 9:16:41 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: KoRn
There’s NO WAY I’d unleash Win8 on our ‘desktop’ PC users at work. NO WAY!

These are people that would struggle if you sent out an email with detailed instructions on how to run task manager or something in Windows XP. Windows 8? Not on your life! LOL

No kidding! My bosses (in their early 50s) are still struggling with XP. I recently showed them how to cut and paste - they were amazed. They don't know a jpg from a pdf and thumb drives are pure magic instruments to them, they have no clue what they are or how to use them.

26 posted on 11/16/2012 9:35:40 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: SeekAndFind
I can’t say anything about Win Enterprise but I already upgraded my tablet to Windows 8. And 1 week later ran my Windows7 restore.

What an incredible piece of caca.

27 posted on 11/16/2012 10:51:56 PM PST by Cyman
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To: SeekAndFind
My company just finished the rollout of Windows 7, and the last stragglers running XP have been "shown the door" -- except for some of us in IT, who still prefer certain administrative tasks on XP.

Mark

28 posted on 11/16/2012 11:47:34 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: usconservative
"Just a guess: you've never actually seen Windows 8 on a PC have you?"

I have; on a friend's recently-purchased HP laptop. It is horrid.

29 posted on 11/17/2012 2:11:36 AM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the new OS doesn’t add necessary benefits over the current one, it’s a waste of money and time (for spinning up on any new features) to “upgrade”.


30 posted on 11/17/2012 3:51:03 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Syntyr
Um no. Vista has nothing to do with it. We are currently about 60% complete with our XP to 7 migration. Why should I know dump what I have done for the 12k users we have already converted or scurry and try to formulate a plan to move the remaining 8k users to Win8? We have a plan and its working. I see now compelling reason to move to Win8. Now Server 2012 is different we have already stated upgrading some of our 1500 servers. But none of that was because “Vista sucked”...

I think that's wrong. The author is wanting to declare Windows 8 a failure becuase the adoption rate of Windows 7 was much faster. Most businesses are doing exactly what your are - upgrading XP to W7.

XP is getting long in the tooth, and development work on it ceased some time ago. Vista did suck, and a lot of companies delayed their normal upgrade cycle to wait for Windows 7. When it did come out a they were more than ready for an upgrade and that drove faster adoption rates.

31 posted on 11/17/2012 4:08:27 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: usconservative

I am using it.... my DH installed it on our laptop. It is really horrible. I indeed have vista feelings toward it. Immediately my brand new computer’s performance slowed down. I can tolerate it now that I have my computer installed. No start button aggravates me, as I sometimes run to dos for something. No reason my brand new laptop should run this slow. I use touchscreens at work, so I prefer traditional input at home. I am saving for another MAC, my youngest is still flying around the internet on a five year old MAC... I keep thinking what a waste of money this cheap POS and it’s OS is.
Should have gone with my instincts.. I really thought this Intel would perform better.


32 posted on 11/17/2012 4:09:05 AM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: SeekAndFind

IMHO, MS is gambling rushing this product to make users get used to it and then push their platform for smartphones and tablets using same interface and similar software. MS tried to launch it’s mobile platform more than once and was always loosing to other players. The reason is obvious - it sucks.
I hate MS strategy for a last decade and wish them to fail badly. Not only they are incapable of innovation, they are also choking other’s innovations to stay on top.


33 posted on 11/17/2012 4:38:41 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Syntyr

Still using Vista here. Since ‘07. :) Have a 7 disc will upgrade whenever the installation gets corrupted.


34 posted on 11/17/2012 6:45:04 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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