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Mayan Doomsday 'Safe Zone' Shut Down
LiveScience ^ | Date: 16 November 2012 Time: 06:46 PM ET | Stephanie Pappas, Senior Writer

Posted on 11/18/2012 5:45:55 PM PST by BenLurkin

Citing fears that doomsday believers, curiosity seekers, and "above all" journalists will flood a French mountaintop on Dec. 21, the supposed day of the Mayan apocalypse, local officials are banning access to the mountain.

The spot, Pic de Bugarach, is rumored to be one of the only safe places on the planet on Dec. 21, according to Raw Story. On that date, a major cycle of the Maya Long Count calendar ends. The calendar is split into several chunks, including 400-year spans called b'ak'tuns. Dec. 21, 2012 on our calendar marks the end of the 13th b'ak'tun and the beginning of a new cycle.

One online rumor holds that on this day of destruction, Pic de Bugarach will open up to reveal an alien spacecraft, which will save believers nearby. That has local officials worried. [End of the World? Top Doomsday Fears]

"We are expecting a few visionaries, a few people who believe in this end of the world, but in extremely limited numbers," state official Eric Freysselinard told Raw Story. "We are expecting greater numbers of people who are just curious, but in numbers we cannot determine. Above all, we are expecting lots of journalists."

In response, officials will call in 100 police and firefighters on Dec. 21 to seal off approaches to the mountain, Freysselinard told Raw Story.

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Oh great. Now where am I going to go?
1 posted on 11/18/2012 5:45:59 PM PST by BenLurkin
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2 posted on 11/18/2012 5:47:37 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: BenLurkin

3 posted on 11/18/2012 5:48:34 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: BenLurkin
One online rumor holds that on this day of destruction, Pic de Bugarach will open up to reveal an alien spacecraft...

I wondered what Quiz was up to these days.

4 posted on 11/18/2012 5:57:20 PM PST by mnehring
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To: BenLurkin

2 Peter 3:3-4 KJV
“Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.”

There have always been scoffers and people blind to the truth of course, but I suspect that on Dec 22nd we may begin to see this fulfilled in full as Peter wrote, he’s indicating here that at the same time, it really is the last days,


5 posted on 11/18/2012 6:08:59 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: BenLurkin

No, I think it’s the end of the 12th baktun, not 13th... They had a number system based on 12, instead of 10 like ours.


6 posted on 11/18/2012 6:17:16 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: BenLurkin

“Oh great. Now where am I going to go?”

Wherever they’re hiding O’s paper LFBC.

Seems nobody can or is willing to get into wherever that is.


7 posted on 11/18/2012 6:33:55 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: BenLurkin

I think I will sit this one out at home.

By the way I am buying Christmas presents, I am pretty sure my Grandkids will want them Dec. 25th.


8 posted on 11/18/2012 6:33:55 PM PST by Venturer
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To: captmar-vell

“but I suspect that on Dec 22nd we may begin to see this fulfilled in full as Peter wrote, he’s indicating here that at the same time, it really is the last days,”

I would challenge you to come back on December 23rd and defend that prediction.


9 posted on 11/18/2012 6:38:51 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Witty saying goes here...)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

And what prediction would that be? That so many after Dec 21st passes and nothing happens will make light of this ‘Mayan calender’ end of the world foolishness and begin to be dismissive of any thought to how this age will end?

Or that those walking after the flesh instead of the spirit cant see we’re in the last days,

2 Peter 1:16
“For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.”


10 posted on 11/18/2012 6:51:32 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: BenLurkin
I'm so far ahead of you guys: I have been to Chichen Itza Mayan Pyramid in the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico. I even have a brass Mayan calendar. Where did I put that? I'll find it as it is in this room somewhere.

My experience at the pyramid: There is a very, very, deep body of water there where they threw live women sacrifices.

However, the men didn't get off scott free. There is a huge ball court where two teams of men play. The object is to get the ball through a high set stone circle. The team that gets the ball through the circle (small circle, ball barely fits through the hole) is the winner. The captain of the winning team presents his head to the losing captain and losing captain beheads the winning captain.

It is an honor for the winning captain to be beheaded as that sends him straight to heaven.

I have also been on the tip of the Yucatan in the area where the asteroid landed in the water and destroyed most life on earth.

Now, when I find my brass Mayan calendar, maybe just having the calendar will save my life on Dec. 21. I'll let you know if I'm still alive then, if you are still on earth.

11 posted on 11/18/2012 7:02:16 PM PST by Marcella (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: captmar-vell
“see we’re in the last days,”

That may be. But putting a close date on things is not sensible.

12 posted on 11/18/2012 7:14:00 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Witty saying goes here...)
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To: BenLurkin

Maybe this the same space craft that should have been trailing the comet Hale–Bopp and they just got the date wrong. San Diego is a great place to spend Christmas. Personally I need a coat but my back east relatives wear a sweater at night.

During Dec Temps

Average High Temperature: 66°F/19°C
Average Low Temperature: 49°F/9°C

This on the water inland is a little warmer.


13 posted on 11/18/2012 7:21:51 PM PST by ThomasThomas
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To: captmar-vell

It’s just a thought, certainly not a prediction, but given the fact that the Mayan prophecy has no Biblical basis whatsoever, wouldn’t it cause more of a falling-away (or at least create more doubt in Biblical eschatology) if something were to actually happen on 12/21/12?


14 posted on 11/18/2012 7:23:14 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

what date are you talking about?

We’ve been in the last days since Jesus rose from that Tomb on April 13th, 32 AD and 14,000 days later on the 9th day of AV in August of 70 AD the Temple was destroyed and Israel was dispersed throughout the world in the Diaspora,

What I’m talking about here are the signs of the times and this is just one more indicator, for which we are commanded to watch for,

Luke 21:36
“Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.”


15 posted on 11/18/2012 7:24:12 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


16 posted on 11/18/2012 7:25:07 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
There's an app for that
17 posted on 11/18/2012 7:30:12 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: BenLurkin

>> “Oh great. Now where am I going to go?” <<

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Take a Big Gulp of Kool-aid, and hitch a ride on the space ship that is hiding behind Moochelle’s rumpus.


18 posted on 11/18/2012 7:30:59 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: captmar-vell
We’ve been in the last days since Jesus rose from that Tomb ...

The very words of my Pastor in today's sermon...concluding with the message that no one knows but Him, and none of us should read signs.

And what the heck happened to my speell check? I could have posted this twenty minutes ago if I had not had to go back and fix my own typos...

19 posted on 11/18/2012 7:33:10 PM PST by IrishPennant (Dr Erkel and Mr. Jive...lurking the streets of DC)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Interesting, sure,

As you say, this Mayan prophecy is not biblical beyond the sense of a global expectation of something coming, and when it fails to materialize, how it then may discredit in the minds of those with very little knowledge of what the Bible says about the coming close of the age, they throw the baby out with the bath water so to speak,

My point was only that it potentially could fulfill another prophecy towards the return of Jesus. What Peter is saying is that it is ‘the last days’ when they are scoffing, so if this is not the global fulfillment, then something not dissimilar will occur again to coincide when the end is in fact come,

for which we do not know the day or the hour,


20 posted on 11/18/2012 7:39:23 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: captmar-vell

“what date are you talking about?”

The Dec 22 date you mentioned.


21 posted on 11/18/2012 7:45:30 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Witty saying goes here...)
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To: Marcella

The Mayans were despicable people. Utterly reprhensible.


22 posted on 11/18/2012 7:49:18 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: editor-surveyor

http://www.moviesoundclips.net/download.php?id=1651&ft=wav


23 posted on 11/18/2012 7:54:43 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

The Mayans were despicable people. Utterly reprhensible.


American Liberals would have loved them.


24 posted on 11/18/2012 7:55:20 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: BenLurkin

25 posted on 11/18/2012 7:56:10 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: ThomasThomas

http://www.moviesoundclips.net/download.php?id=1631&ft=wav


26 posted on 11/18/2012 7:56:51 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

Bloody savages who reveled in human sacrifice on the one hand, but highly accomplished astronomers on the other. That is the only thing that gives me pause, that they may have been aware of some cyclical astronomical threat of which we are not aware. The skies would be getting much more active ahead of such a thing, imho, so I’m of the opinion now that this end of an age under their calendar does not represent a threat of that nature.


27 posted on 11/18/2012 7:56:54 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: captmar-vell

>> “for which we do not know the day or the hour” <<

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We don’t know the day, nor the hour, but we do know for certain that it will be at the Feast of Trumpets, of a Sabbath year. That is why we are to watch. Read 1Thessalonians 5, and you will understand better. Paul tells the Thessalonians that they will not be in the dark as to that day.


28 posted on 11/18/2012 7:57:35 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: BenLurkin

Qdoba


29 posted on 11/18/2012 7:57:36 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
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To: Vendome

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/algoof.wav


30 posted on 11/18/2012 7:58:28 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: InvisibleChurch

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/saywhat.wav


31 posted on 11/18/2012 7:59:13 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I’m sorry your not following the conjecture, the 22nd is just the day after this Mayan nonsense should be debunked,

It could be one day or 120 years, as in the days of Noah to be ‘in the last days’

Matthew 24:37-39 KJV
“But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”


32 posted on 11/18/2012 7:59:13 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: RegulatorCountry

The Mayan Calendar doesn’t say that it is the end of the world, just the end of that particular calendar cycle. The rest of the BS comes from the standard leftist/new ager sources.


33 posted on 11/18/2012 8:00:24 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I did a little looking into the whole thing when it started to become a popular phenomenon, and I took a particular interest in understanding just why certain Christian groups were validating it, most notably the Van Impes.

Their “ages” pass differently according to a system I never quite understood, but it’s not necessarily a pleasant thing for those living on this planet. End of the world would not be the correct description but disruption and upheaval would be.

That’s what had me concerned about some possible, cyclical astronomical basis behind these “ages,” considering their level of accomplishment in that area. As I mentioned above, the skies would be getting much more active ahead of such a thing if that were to be the case. I see no indication now in mid-late November 2012 that it is, so I’ve pretty well ruled that out, myself.

It gave me pause early on, I will admit.


34 posted on 11/18/2012 8:09:40 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: editor-surveyor

I agree the fall feast days will all be fulfilled on the very day the feast is celebrated on the calender.

And like Jesus ascended to heaven 10 days before Pentecost when the Church was born, the Feast of Trumpets is 10 days before Yom Kippur,

1 Corinthians Chapter 10:11 KJV
“Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.”

Also for the final appointment, the whole world will celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles when Jesus returns,

Zechariah 14:16 KJV
“And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.”


35 posted on 11/18/2012 8:15:18 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: Marcella

That was one sick culture. The Conquistadors arrival was the best thing that ever happened there. Like cavalry arriving.
The arrival of the conquistadors, is like American soldiers liberating Dachau. The madness stopped.


36 posted on 11/18/2012 8:24:36 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
It’s just a thought, certainly not a prediction, but given the fact that the Mayan prophecy has no Biblical basis whatsoever, wouldn’t it cause more of a falling-away (or at least create more doubt in Biblical eschatology) if something were to actually happen on 12/21/12?

Whatever the mind of man can imagine, will be not only be imagined but feared, rational or not.
The problems occur when the insane jump into the mix, and the longer I live, the greater my belief that a significant percentage of humans are insane to a greater or lesser extent. The proof is everywhere.

One can just as easily assert that it is also a fact that Biblical prophesy has no basis whatsoever in Mayan beliefs.

So what?

I would never succumb to my insane nature and assert that the Bible I believe in is more valid than the Mayan version. I believe in my faith nevertheless, and have no fears, uncertainty or problems with other cultures and their beliefs, so long as they don't continually attempt to kill me as a result.

Can you imagine a world where every world religion was as sick and insane as islam? I can't.

37 posted on 11/18/2012 8:32:11 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: IrishPennant
I could have posted this twenty minutes ago if I had not had to go back and fix my own typos...

...and you still misssed one.

: )

38 posted on 11/18/2012 8:39:32 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: SeekAndFind

The calendar carver was off by four years. TEOTWAWKI was the first Tuesday of November 2008.


39 posted on 11/18/2012 8:51:48 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: EveningStar

:’) ;’) :’o


40 posted on 11/19/2012 3:47:27 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: captmar-vell

BS..

if the mayans were so damn smart, how come they are extinct???


41 posted on 11/19/2012 4:25:23 AM PST by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: joe fonebone

Uhm, they’re not extinct. That civilization construct no longer exists but there are, in fact, some 6-7 million Mayan’s still living in Mexico.

When I go to Puerto Aventuras I hire a guy to give me directions as I drive up and down the Mayan Riviera.

Most of the time I have no idea where anything is as there are no major signs, down those manzanita roads, saying where anything is much less a road sign.

Like getting to the Fairmont. Been there plenty of times but can’t remember where to turn.

So this guy goes with me, I see my friends and he waits in the bar sipping a Coke. If it’s lunch, I take care of that for him.

I have his card with my passport. He speaks Mayan, Spanish and English. For some reason a little Greek. I forget why.

When I first met him I thought he was barely out of high school. Turned out he was 30 years old and had a family. Sawed off little midget of a guy and really enjoy his company when I’m down there.

I was going to go with my friends this week but, not in the mood.

Maybe after the 1st. I’d like to hang out with him again(Yes, I know “but you pay him”. No reason not to have fun) and I’ve wanted to meet his family. I’ve met his dad who owns a trinket place.


42 posted on 11/19/2012 10:18:09 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: captmar-vell

>> “I agree the fall feast days will all be fulfilled on the very day the feast is celebrated on the calender.” <<

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The only thing left for all to quickly fall in place is the change back to the 360 day year, so that all the prophecies counted in “times,” and days work out evenly. Then we will see it all happen.


43 posted on 11/19/2012 12:59:08 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Did you notice that that Mayan callendar disk ends on the winter solstice?

That is the sole significance of that date. All pagan systems begin their new year on the winter solstice, while God begins his year on the first new moon after the autumnal equinox. And that was also when his son was born.


44 posted on 11/19/2012 1:02:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

My only interest was in determining if there was some possibility of a comet, asteroid, group of them or some other object on a cyclical, low periodicity orbit that was behind the changing of their “ages” since the account implies upheaval and disruption.

Equinox and solstice are not necessarily a “pagan” thing merely because they observed them. My own grandparents used the Farmer’s Almanac for planting, cutting and harvesting. They were not “pagan.”

Mayans were. They were, however, also accomplished astronomers. That is why I took note and looked into the matter further, that and various supposed Christian groups apparently validating it.

I have seen no indication that there is a cause for concern at this point, so I am fairly certain that there is no astronomical threat associated with this.


45 posted on 11/19/2012 1:34:24 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I was just popinting out that the choice of the winter solstice is always pagan, and that God’s calendar uses the Autumnal equinox as a marker to determine which moon begins the new spiritual year.

Presently, that doesn’t quite work right, because we have not yet returned to the 360 day year; that is presently an unknown future event.


46 posted on 11/19/2012 4:24:40 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

God is using the 360 day calender in the old testament, and clearly is using a 360 day calender with how he resolves events that have yet to occur in the book of Revelation.

I honestly don’t believe there’s any reason to assume he’s not using the same accounting of time in between these events,

Without going into any details, I can say, that if you do look at important events and intervals in that manner, it does appear to show interesting structures and patterns that at least have an appearance of being attended too, and that align with his Feast days far into the future,


47 posted on 11/19/2012 9:48:11 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: captmar-vell

Our present 365 day orbit has to be changed before the the 360 day prophecies are fulfilled, else how would we “watch?”

Presently, the Lord’s appointed times do not work at all. Judah has attempted to make their calendars to work, but to no avail, they have to be readjusted each year, in approximation.

To me that is a clear indication that we simply have to wait for that condition to be changed before we claim that his coming is immanent.


48 posted on 11/20/2012 7:46:03 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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