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Western Digital Reveals High-Performance 4TB Hard Drive.
Xbitlabs ^ | 11/20/2012 08:48 AM | by Anton Shilov

Posted on 11/20/2012 9:42:37 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

h3>Western Digital Introduces 4TB WD Black Hard Disk Drive

Western Digital, the world’s largest maker of hard disk drives, on Tuesday introduced its 4TB WD Black HDD which combines high performance with maximum capacity. WD Black drives are aimed for gaming, high-performance desktop systems and workstations.

Based on four latest-generation 1TB platters, the new WD Black drives combine 7200rpm spin speed, 64MB cache, dual stage actuator technology, Serial ATA 6Gb/s interface, and an integrated dual processor to deliver ultimate performance in a maximum-capacity drive. The new HDDs also support such technologies as IntelliSeek, which calculates optimum seek speeds to lower power consumption, noise and vibration; StableTrac, the motor shaft is secured at both ends to reduce system-induced vibration and stabilize platters for accurate tracking during read and write operations; NoTouch ramp load technology.


(Excerpt) Read more at xbitlabs.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: hitech
This may be the first 4G Drive for the consumer market.

: Hitachi Releases First Enterprise-Class 4TB Hard Drive ^

1 posted on 11/20/2012 9:42:45 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Show me a 10K RPM with 128 MB cache and we’ll talk. Not saying this isn’t great for the likes of EMC. We’ll be able to get 75 TB of data in a single 25-disk 2.5” SATA III shelf, which is insane, but the seek times for data won’t be astronomical at 7.5K RPM.


2 posted on 11/20/2012 9:45:25 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wow, 4TB. I could put a few more movies on that :-)


3 posted on 11/20/2012 9:47:44 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: rarestia

I don’t know...My MacBookPro 15” Retina has 768GB of solid state memory....nothing moving in this bad boy....I can live with the smaller memory.


4 posted on 11/20/2012 9:49:04 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Is it a helium filled drive?


5 posted on 11/20/2012 9:51:42 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That’s a lot of porn.


6 posted on 11/20/2012 9:52:25 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Gaffer

By memory, I believe you mean hard drive space. Memory and storage are different things, but I completely take your meaning.

And I don’t disagree with you. I have a 3 TB NAS in my office for long-term storage and bulk storage of music and system backups. I’ve not even used 50% of the total space.

In an enterprise, however, storage is a big dollar IT expense and the more you can cram into a smaller space for a smaller price, the more will be purchased.


7 posted on 11/20/2012 9:52:48 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; stylin_geek; ...

8 posted on 11/20/2012 9:53:27 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: rarestia

Probably still 80/90 iops though. Unless it is mirrored (which incurs a write penalty) or in a layered volume its not probably not going to be blinding performance.


9 posted on 11/20/2012 9:54:14 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; stylin_geek; ...

10 posted on 11/20/2012 9:54:20 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: rarestia
Newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603%20600361769%20600217643&IsNodeId=1&name=4TB

11 posted on 11/20/2012 9:56:31 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Michael Barnes

I don’t think the purpose is for performance but for RAW disk. Just RAID5 20 of them and you’ll have more redundant storage than you can shake a stick at.


12 posted on 11/20/2012 9:58:34 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Don’t think the wife would appreciate me spending $1600 on 4 of them for my Synology NAS.


13 posted on 11/20/2012 9:59:56 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Nope, the storage space is solid state according to the documentation I see - no moving parts at all except the keys on the keyboard. I don’t recall off hand what the usable instant memory is but it is substantial. It is ridiculously expensive, but I didn’t pay for it.


14 posted on 11/20/2012 9:59:56 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Great, now I have to wipe the drool off of my keyboard.


15 posted on 11/20/2012 10:02:42 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Gaffer

Right... you referred to it as “memory.” I was simply pointing out the mixup in terminology, which is actually quite common.

Memory (Random Access Memory or RAM) is used for caching of programs for quicker access by the processor. Solid state storage is simply a hard drive without spinning disk. I use two 240 GB OCZ Agility 3 SSDs in my gaming desktop and have 12 GB DDR3 RAM (memory).


16 posted on 11/20/2012 10:03:10 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
WD was making an enterprise 4 Tbyte drive,....this seems to be for the consumer market.

Enterprise drives typically are for RAID arrays and require different firmware.

17 posted on 11/20/2012 10:03:36 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A terabyte here, a terabyte there, and pretty soon, we’re talking about real memory.


18 posted on 11/20/2012 10:06:11 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: rarestia

Okay...all I know is me likee MBP w/R very much....but pricey...


19 posted on 11/20/2012 10:06:37 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Start a defrag and come back in like 2019...


20 posted on 11/20/2012 10:06:44 AM PST by djf (Conservative ideals help the poor. Liberal practice help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: Gaffer

Solid state disk (SSD) is amazing technology. I went from a 30-45 second boot time with spinning disk (traditional HDD) to a 12 second boot time on SSD with my gaming PC.


21 posted on 11/20/2012 10:13:03 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
With the recent announcement of a 5x increase in areal data density technology, we may see 20 TB drives within a year or two.

Imagine a 1-2 PB NAS in a single rack. :) :) :)

NetApp, are you getting this!?

22 posted on 11/20/2012 10:14:04 AM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: rarestia
There is a paper out there...that says you really should not be using consumer drives in RAID arrays.

WD introduced their Red Line for use in arrays....

Ignore the pending RAID Castrophe at your own Risk--PDF

23 posted on 11/20/2012 10:15:36 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: rarestia
Newegg again:

WD Red Drives

24 posted on 11/20/2012 10:23:24 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I had too many WD drives fail over the years...well before the warranty date. Seagate is the way to go. I’ve had only one Seagate fail and that was well after the warranty date.


25 posted on 11/20/2012 10:23:37 AM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

I agree with you. I’ve had the same thing happen to me.


26 posted on 11/20/2012 10:28:05 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Umm... the article we're talking about is discussing Hitachi enterprise class HDDs. I'm very much aware of the consumer-grade RAID issues and spent a good amount of money on my enterprise-class Seagate HDDs for my NAS.
27 posted on 11/20/2012 10:30:45 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: TChris
Imagine a 1-2 PB NAS in a single rack. :) :) :)

Sheesh!

28 posted on 11/20/2012 10:48:24 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

But the article is about black drives (enterprise), not blue (consumer) or green (low power).


29 posted on 11/20/2012 10:50:18 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It still has moving parts..... /yawn


30 posted on 11/20/2012 11:17:07 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Gaffer
....nothing moving in this bad boy....

except electrons! And they are very fast.

31 posted on 11/20/2012 11:18:09 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Amazing stuff. Top consumer HD capacity about 15 years ago in the ‘96-’97 time frame was around 4GB. 15 years later we’re looking at a 1000X increase in capacity on commodity drives to 4 TB. That’s about an order of magnitude increase every 5 years. As with Moore’s Law regarding compute capacity, can/will persistent storage capacity continue increasing at this rate?


32 posted on 11/20/2012 11:28:07 AM PST by MCH
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Picked up a 1 TB Seagate SATA drive (7200 rpm) for $50-something in late 2011, right before the drive prices started going crazy, allegedly because of flooding in Thailand. That made a lot of people buy solid-state drives. But 4TB is a lot of real estate. Takes a lot of pr0n to fill that. : )


33 posted on 11/20/2012 11:50:14 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

I have 4 x 2TB Seagate drives with bad sectors that say otherwise


34 posted on 11/20/2012 12:22:16 PM PST by GraceG
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To: djf
Start a defrag and come back in like 2019...

Defrag? In 2012? I haven't run a system you have to defrag the disks on in years.

35 posted on 11/20/2012 12:42:03 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: GraceG

“I have 4 x 2TB Seagate drives with bad sectors that say otherwise.”

Bad sectors are usually caused by the stylii ‘skipping’ over the discs. My guess would be that you have other issues that are causing the ‘skipping’. ‘Skipping’, again, can be caused by trying to access different parts of the disc too fast or perhaps they needed to be defragged. If files on the drive are separated on the discs then that could cause the ‘skipping’ effect.

The fact that you have four drives like that makes me suspect ‘skipping’ or otherwise misuse of the drive either by the person sitting at the keyboard or other software issues.


36 posted on 11/20/2012 2:26:24 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: backwoods-engineer
Now, now, the judge ruled that original media for the video being watched must at all times be in the DVD drive ("styrofoam cup holder").

You are obeying the law, right?

HF

37 posted on 11/20/2012 3:10:43 PM PST by holden
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bump for later


38 posted on 11/20/2012 5:26:51 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Still Thinking
I wasn't aware that Black drives were Enterprise drives.

Newegg has WD 4Tbyte drives and they call them Enterprise Drives.

See link at post #24.

WD also, some time back , introduced a line called Red drives for NAS.....

39 posted on 11/20/2012 6:00:39 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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