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THE TOO-YOUNG RINGS OF URANUS
Creation Moments ^ | N/A

Posted on 11/21/2012 8:24:21 PM PST by lasereye

Revelation 6:14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.

Everyone has seen pictures of the planet Saturn and its beautiful rings. Well, it is now known that many of our solar system's outer planets have rings. However, these rings are a problem for those astronomers who think that the universe is billions of years old. You see, the rings, which encircle the outer planets, would not be around today if the universe really was billions of years old.

Recent studies of the rings of Uranus highlight the problem of why these rings are still around today. One theory says the rings are kept in shape, and in orbit, by small satellites circling the planet near one set of rings. The problem is, there are nine other rings around the planet that are not associated with satellites.

Astronomers have also found 50 to 100 tenuous dust bands around the planet. These dust bands would disappear even more rapidly than rings. One astronomer has suggested that perhaps these bands are replenished with dust when tiny grains of dust collide with invisible moons around the planet.

Science usually doesn't have room for invisible moons and unseen causes. It is unfortunate that when the only alternative is to admit that the Bible is right about the creation being relatively young some scientists are so biased that they must invent invisible moons and mysterious causes.

Prayer: Dear heavenly Father, teach me now through Your Word, and so prepare me for Your Son’s return to earth. In His Name. Amen.

Notes: J. Eberhart, “Sustaining the Uranian rings,” December 1988


TOPICS: Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: age; astronomy; moonsofuranus; ringarounduranus; rings; uranus
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To: WhiskeyX

Indeed.

What is Man, that Thou art mindful of him, and the Son of Man, that Thou visitest him?


21 posted on 11/21/2012 9:58:34 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: lasereye

December 1988 and you just get around to posting this NOW?

Uranus gathers no moss, that’s for sure.


22 posted on 11/21/2012 10:31:51 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: lasereye

Good grief, this washed-up young-earth canard was debunked years ago. Will the young-earth cult never learn?


23 posted on 11/21/2012 10:36:40 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: lasereye

What do the Starship Enterprise and a wad of toilet paper have in common?

They both circle uranus in search of klingons!


24 posted on 11/21/2012 10:48:37 PM PST by Catmom
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To: One Name

Why do you feel the need to be defined? Especially by an anonymous web forum?


25 posted on 11/21/2012 11:11:36 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

I lived my whole life w/o being defined. I came here and got put in a box. I found it amusing, which was my point.

I don’t need you or any of this, but I choose to play along, for now.


26 posted on 11/21/2012 11:16:41 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: WhiskeyX

The multiverse can bite my crank.


27 posted on 11/21/2012 11:23:12 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: John Valentine
December 1988 and you just get around to posting this NOW?

The creationist article references a 1988 article in Science News. The ignorance is hot off the press.

28 posted on 11/21/2012 11:24:01 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Just curious, but, where is this zero gravity environment you speak of?


29 posted on 11/21/2012 11:41:12 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (2C7:14 If my people..shall humble themselves and pray..I will hear from heaven..and heal their land.)
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To: WhiskeyX
Great post. That is the reason I like FR. It is amazing how people who are considered educated cannot grasp the theory of gravity, moment of inertia, centrifugal/centripetal force, etc. The arguments get real stupid, real fast!
I am interested in how the Roche limit and centrifugal force play in the formation of the rings.
30 posted on 11/22/2012 12:34:41 AM PST by gr8eman (Ron Swanson for President!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

In any place within a field of gravity where your own vector of motion relative to the gravitational vector of acceleration results in a zero net vector of motion in any direction. In other words, zero gravity is not so much as not being in the presence of a field of gravity as it is experiencing no gravitational acceleration against an object resistant to the pull of gravity. Hence it is possible to experience weightless zero gravity conditio9ns in the cabin of an aircraft diving towards the surface of the Earth and well within the strong attraction of the Earth’s gravitational field. The acceleration effects of gravity are restored just as soon as the diving aircraft stops descending into the Earth’s gravitational field at the same speed as the Earth’s gravitational acceleration. The same is true for any body in orbit around another object in space. So long as your body is in freefall within a gravitational field, the balancing of the gravitational force and the force of momentum results in a weightless zero gravity experience, which then becomes felt as a force of acceleration the moment the force becomes unbalanced in any direction.


31 posted on 11/22/2012 3:07:31 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Yardstick

“The multiverse can bite my crank.”

In the event of a notional multiverse filled with parallel universes, it already did so to your crank in an infinite number of ways and with an infinite number of consequences. I don’t like the notion or possibility of infinite parallel universes, so I’m going to bet your crank is quite safe from any of their infinite multitude of depredations.


32 posted on 11/22/2012 3:18:00 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: gr8eman

The planetary gravitational field and Roche limite have the effect of sorting orbital masses in accordance with their mass, composition, and size. Large masses with little internal cohesion tend to be torn apart at whatever distance amounts to the Roche limit for that object and its characteristics. A football sized nickel-iron rock that was melted and compressed long ago to an homogenous and very high internal cohesion at the molecular level may not have a Roche limit with respect to a planet. The rock in that instance is to small for the planet’s gravitational field to produce the tidal and differential forces necessary to break the molecular bonds within the rock. A 100 kilometer sized nickel-iron rock which was melded together in the core of a now smashed and disintegrated dwarf planet may have a Roche limit within the Gravitational field of a giant or super-giant planet not quite massive enough to have become a star.

Since the Roche limit is a different distance for each object according to its mass, composition, and size, the reultant rings in the orbital plane effectiveely sort the objects according to their characteristics.


33 posted on 11/22/2012 3:55:33 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
Can you give me necessary and sufficient experimental grounds for accepting the multiverse hypothesis?

Cheers!

34 posted on 11/22/2012 4:54:12 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: WhiskeyX
In any place within a field of gravity where your own vector of motion relative to the gravitational vector of acceleration results in a zero net vector of motion in any direction.

Bzzt.

How does one combine vectors with different fundamental units?

Sounds to me like this would be only a temporary condition in the absence of an additional force besides gravity.

...and then I read the rest of your post, which says the same thing, in different words.

Cheers!

35 posted on 11/22/2012 4:58:09 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

No, because I doubt that the multiverse concept is an hypothesis at this point in time. My understanding at present is the multiverse concept is one of the more outstanding of many possible or perhaps likely conjectures, at least in part, implied by the evidence. My personal best guess is that the multiverse conceept is also too limited and incomplete in its scope and yet not the infinite variety of universees it proposes. It is hard to put into words, but I would speculatee that Creation can include a vast number of universes, not parallel, which remain finite in concurrent number with infinite re-occurence and form. Conceptually this requires imagining such contructs as the moebius strip, infinite surfaces of spheres, closed space saddles, and well beyond those limited concepts.

The “Big Bang Theory””singularities, and the Book of Genesis share a common characteristic which implies another existence beyond this Universe in which a Creator manifests to bring about the creation of this Universe.


36 posted on 11/22/2012 5:46:25 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: grey_whiskers

different fundamental units?


37 posted on 11/22/2012 5:49:37 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: lasereye

The age of rings don’t do anything to infer the age of the planet. The rings of Saturn are also younger than the planet.


38 posted on 11/22/2012 5:50:02 AM PST by kokoda
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To: lasereye

,,,,,, sometimes one wipe won’t do it ,,, try two or three times for better luck .


39 posted on 11/22/2012 6:33:23 AM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: WhiskeyX
velocity = distance / time

acceleration = distance / (time * time)

Both are vectors, but one is the time derivative of the other; they cannot be added.

As you pointed out implicitly later in your example of "weightlessness"...

Cheers!

40 posted on 11/22/2012 6:41:56 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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