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Rejected Beatles audition tape discovered
Telegraph.co.uk | 11/23/12 | Telegraph Reporters

Posted on 11/23/2012 10:06:03 AM PST by raccoonradio

The Beatles' audition tape famously rejected by a record executive in 1962 has finally been uncovered after 50 years.

The fledgling group were told "they had no future in showbusiness" as guitar groups were "on the way out" following the audition. The decision by a Decca Records executive proved to be one of the worst made in music history.

Within months John, Paul, George and original drummer Pete Best had signed with EMI and went on to become the greatest band of all time.

Now the original safety master tape, a 10-track demo the group recorded at Decca's London studios on New Year's Day 1962, has come to public light for the first time. It is thought the Beatles' manager Brian Epstein held on to the tape he had paid to make and later gave it to an executive associated with EMI.

He sold it in 2002 to a prolific buyer of music memorabilia. He is now selling it at auction with a pre-sale estimate of 30,000 pounds.

The recording has never been officially released and the sound quality on it is said to be pristine.


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KEYWORDS: audition; beatles; tape; vanity
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1 posted on 11/23/2012 10:06:11 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

oops sorry, link

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/the-beatles/9695499/Rejected-Beatles-audition-tape-discovered.html


2 posted on 11/23/2012 10:07:28 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

When I was in the 6th grade, my London Pen-Pal wrote to me to “Be sure and watch the telly next Sunday, as her favorite Pop Group would be performing on the Ed Sullivan Show”.

She called then “The Beatles”. I was sure she had spelled the name incorrectly.

That was in February 1964. I got a guitar the following Christmas, and am STILL playing Beatles Songs. (My students LOVE them!)


3 posted on 11/23/2012 10:18:44 AM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: raccoonradio

“pre-sale estimate of 30,000 pounds.”

Typo? Methinks there’s three zeros missing.


4 posted on 11/23/2012 10:19:40 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: ctdonath2

I’m fortunate to have CDR copies burned direct from the studio master tapes. Exceptional sound quality and complete with tape hiss.

That said, whoever buys this tape can make a tidy profit by creating Hi-Rez downloads (24-bit/192-Khz) - and sell on HDTracks.com, the US leader in Hi-Rez download sales.


5 posted on 11/23/2012 10:25:16 AM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: raccoonradio

Too bad they didn’t just give up and return to being petty criminals.


6 posted on 11/23/2012 10:27:24 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ctdonath2

no kidding - we should buy it and charge a buck to watch, pay the FR bills forever!


7 posted on 11/23/2012 10:27:35 AM PST by bigbob
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To: raccoonradio
History of the Beatles.
8 posted on 11/23/2012 10:30:12 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: raccoonradio
If it's as good as Meet The Beatles then its going to be a million seller. Defunct Decca records may have a last laugh.
9 posted on 11/23/2012 10:38:02 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: raccoonradio

Just found this yesterday;

Friday, 28 July 2006
McCartney guitar fetches £330,000
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/5224118.stm

The Rex acoustic guitar helped Sir Paul persuade John Lennon to let him join his band, The Quarrymen, in 1957.

He impressed Lennon by playing songs and chords on it at a Liverpool fete.

Me Again:
This was the listing that lead me to the Beatle, similar to one of my old finds, though mine was $7.99, and will need a lot of rehab;

Rex Lancer Archtop Acoustic Guitar
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1940S-REX-LANCER-ARCHTOP-ACOUSTIC-GUITAR-VINTAGE-HARMONY-SILVERTONE-KAY-STYLE-/180774816684


10 posted on 11/23/2012 10:38:18 AM PST by Son House (Romney Plan: Cap Spending At 20 Percent Of GDP.)
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To: raccoonradio

The link led me to another link. Do you know who Bonnie Jo Mason is?


11 posted on 11/23/2012 10:41:07 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: raccoonradio

****sound quality on it is said to be pristine****

The sound quality may be “pristine” but the quality of the sound may be somewhat lacking.


12 posted on 11/23/2012 11:03:37 AM PST by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: vetvetdoug

They’re interesting, but they weren’t quite there yet. Anyways, here they are in lower fidelity...(parts1-4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuEHcJ7CCzg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdeyBPUiE28&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R8R1WAZtcU&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFT_38ktddE&feature=relmfu


13 posted on 11/23/2012 11:08:20 AM PST by Bonneville
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To: raccoonradio
There was a story that the Decca guy who passed on the Beatles was the same one who signed the Rolling Stones.

I don't know if it is true, but I hope it is.

14 posted on 11/23/2012 11:13:45 AM PST by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: raccoonradio; Revolting cat!

Don’t believe the hype. It’s been released numerous times on vinyl and this is a later safety copy of the master tape.

And it’s been sold to a collector as recently as 2002 so it clearly wasn’t “lost”.


15 posted on 11/23/2012 11:16:55 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Son House; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows; JoeProBono; Daffynition
Just found this yesterday; Friday, 28 July 2006 - McCartney guitar fetches £330,000 - The Rex acoustic guitar helped Sir Paul persuade John Lennon to let him join his band, The Quarrymen, in 1957...

I found some early Rolling Stones instruments and they are even pictured using them. What would they bring at auction?


16 posted on 11/23/2012 11:25:31 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: raccoonradio
It is thought the Beatles' manager Brian Epstein held on to the tape he had paid to make and later gave it to an executive associated with EMI. He sold it in 2002 to a prolific buyer of music memorabilia. He is now selling it at auction with a pre-sale estimate of 30,000 pounds.

Brian probably voted Democrat this year, too. I mean, he's only been dead since 1967.

17 posted on 11/23/2012 11:25:45 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: a fool in paradise

Did it come with the free vial of Heroin included?


18 posted on 11/23/2012 11:27:31 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: ctdonath2

“pre-sale estimate of 30,000 pounds.”

“Typo? Methinks there’s three zeros missing.”

Well, maybe not...just because you possess the tape doesn’t necessarily give anyone a license to distribute it or collect royalties for performing it...


19 posted on 11/23/2012 11:34:28 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie

It’s not about profiting from performance, it’s about owning history.

The Zapruder film is unplayable, but would fetch a fortune if sold. Ditto the Beatles’ rejection tape.


20 posted on 11/23/2012 11:38:00 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: a fool in paradise

I don’t know the history of the Beatles as well as I should for being a collector of vinyl. I still don’t understand how much influence George Martin had on the music.


21 posted on 11/23/2012 11:38:51 AM PST by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: a fool in paradise

I heard it when I was living in London. The tape has the first rocking version of “The Ballad of John and Yoko”.


22 posted on 11/23/2012 11:47:01 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: raccoonradio

BFL


23 posted on 11/23/2012 11:50:20 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: a fool in paradise

That guitar is left handed, no way it was used by the Rolling Stones.(toy manufacturers must not care too much for details...that being the cutout on the wrong side).


24 posted on 11/23/2012 11:52:14 AM PST by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Cher, who recorded a novelty hit called I Love You Ringo

As for a certain recording containing an early rockin’ version of Ballad of John and Yoko, it probably isn’t the one mentioned in the article. Recorded in ‘62, and they didn’t meet till about 3-4 yrs later, so...


25 posted on 11/23/2012 12:01:26 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

I cherish Decca as a great classical music label. Rejecting the Beatles? Who cares.


26 posted on 11/23/2012 12:12:51 PM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: raccoonradio
So some record exec from Decca rejects The Beatles. It happens. Even Elvis Presley was told to go back to driving a truck. And when Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak were playing around with computer parts in that garage, they were told to get real jobs. And they did, for a little while.

I happen to think rejection is a good thing. It toughens you up and makes it more likely you will succeed in the long run if you are so sure of yourself that you can reject rejection. If on the other hand, you accept rejection, you were probably never going to make it anyhow and the rejector just saved you some time and aggravation.

So to all the rejectors and rejectees in the world, I hoist my glass of ale and salute you all.

27 posted on 11/23/2012 12:22:57 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: ResponseAbility

George Martin was truly the 5th Beatle and provided the polish & studio guidance that allowed the Beatles creativity to fully blossom.

Without a George Martin (trained in classical music), the Beatles would never have had the impact they did.


28 posted on 11/23/2012 12:35:59 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: SamAdams76

Sometimes rejection is based in wrong headed stuck in the mud concepts.

ASCAP initiated the payola hearings because they no longer had the hits. They also refused to publish “hillbilly” or “race” music (BMI would) and when those two musical forms crashed together into a third form branded rock and roll ASCAP no longer had the biggest sellers.

The Beatles were told “the guitar group” sound was out. There was an audience for it. The labels wanted to push Bobby Darin, Bobby Vinton, Bobby Vee, et al.

The big labels didn’t like the small labels. 1990s were the last we saw big chart success from independent labels.

And radio/television/magazine coverage of music is horrible today again because the suits are dictating to the masses what they should listen to (Gaga Peas Spears et al).

The sales figures aren’t what they were in the hey day. Much of the smaller music sales are untracked (labels aren’t participating in the tracking and neither are the independent stores and the much need “radio airplay” factor in chart rating is completely shut out).


29 posted on 11/23/2012 12:36:55 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

“...because the suits are dictating to the masses what they should listen to...”

I was just reading about the rock group RUSH, and their producer said that most (all?) bands have a “suit” that is either involved throughout production, or has the final say on the songs/album. I didn’t realize it was like that. (Rush doesn’t - they do the album, cover art, etc. with no interference.)


30 posted on 11/23/2012 1:11:17 PM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: 21twelve

Frank Zappa talks about what happened to the music industry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP4wsURn3rw


31 posted on 11/23/2012 1:20:53 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: a fool in paradise

“Don’t believe the hype. It’s been released numerous times on vinyl and this is a later safety copy of the master tape.”
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Right you are. I’ve had a copy vinyl in the original sleeve for many years. I think I received it as a gift around 1984. It’s essentially the same songs as their first couple of albums, along with some other cover versions:
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http://www.discogs.com/Beatles-The-Decca-Audition/release/2370888


32 posted on 11/23/2012 1:34:20 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: raccoonradio

Now, Kenny G. or Barry Malinow audition tapes, that would be something1


33 posted on 11/23/2012 1:36:04 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: raccoonradio

Now, Kenny G. or Barry Malinow audition tapes, that would be something!


34 posted on 11/23/2012 1:36:50 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: dfwgator

Interesting on how it was better off “with the old guys chomping on their cigars saying ‘who knows? - play it”.

A few years ago Rush had an intro video for their “Time Machine” concert and the machine changes a Bavarian style oompah band into one of Rush’s big hits. The Rush guys are playing characters, and one says something like “So what do you think?” The other says “It sounds like crap!”

“Well sure - but the kids love crap!”


35 posted on 11/23/2012 1:44:00 PM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: newfreep

I’m sure there’s an interesting story around that. I would love to hear them.


36 posted on 11/23/2012 1:49:28 PM PST by Woodman
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To: raccoonradio

The entire item is “cover” songs, written by someone else, not the Beatles. WHO would want this? Other than beatle fanatics. It is not the creative unit of the writing/playing talent that was to be.

But of course in the vast wasteland of dancing with america’s got no talent idols, someone feels this tape would have value. IF it got current writers to create similar excitement in modern songwriting then maybe it is a good thing. Otherwise, it is like buying old 45s of second rate performance. The Beatles forte was LIVE performance and their own writing of melodic original music.


37 posted on 11/23/2012 1:55:13 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Woodman

Long story short...

I created a company to import/distribute ultra-high end audio & stereo equipment from Europe and Far East. During this time, a critically acclaimed mastering engineer and I became business associates for a series of projects.

Since then, he and I have become good friends - certainly the one I trust more than anyone else in this liberal/socialist infested industry.

This individual has re-mastered hundreds if not thousands of classic rock & jazz albums. He traveled to Abbey Road to consider remastering the Beatles entire catalog. During this time, he had access to the original master studio tapes of all the albums + unreleased studio demos.

Alas, the business details didn’t work out but he has been kind enough to provide me those and so many, many more. I have numerous “dry” versions of classic albums and single tracks BEFORE the echo/reverb was added for the final commercial release PLUS studio chatter between the artists, engineer, producer, et al.

The Beatles unreleased studio demos with chatter among them and others are absolutely fascinating. These “dry” versions are so much clearer than the “echo/reverb” versions.

These gifts are absolutely priceless...especially as a longtime Beatles fan.

Anyway, that’s my story and i’m, well, you know......

btw, if you ever have an interest in ultra-high performance audio gear, touch base with me. I’ll always help a fellow freeper.

Ciao!


38 posted on 11/23/2012 2:36:37 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Son House
The Rex acoustic guitar helped Sir Paul persuade John Lennon to let him join his band, The Quarrymen, in 1957.

Well, that and the fact that McCartney could actually play the guitar, unlike Lennon. Lennon knew only banjo chords and tuned and played his guitar as if it were a banjo.

McCartney taught Lennon how to tune and a guitar and how to play guitar chords.

39 posted on 11/23/2012 3:30:17 PM PST by Scoutmaster
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To: raccoonradio

Decca went with the Temeloes who are a talented band but also guitar-based.


40 posted on 11/23/2012 3:39:47 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Temeloes should be Tremeloes.


41 posted on 11/23/2012 3:51:13 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Moltke
I cherish Decca as a great classical music label. Rejecting the Beatles? Who cares.

Were you really such a humbug fifty years ago? My parents were born during the Great Depression, and even they liked the Beatles in their day. Perhaps not as much as I did, but they weren't allergic to them.

42 posted on 11/23/2012 6:01:46 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: newfreep
I have numerous “dry” versions of classic albums and single tracks BEFORE the echo/reverb was added for the final commercial release PLUS studio chatter between the artists, engineer, producer, et al.

For a time in the early 90s, I was part of a loose gaggle of L.A. musicians who were in the social circle of Jon Anderson of Yes fame. My best buddy spent a lot of time producing tracks for Jon's son, and he spent a fair bit of time at Jon's house, as well.

One day out of the blue, my buddy lays a two track cassette tape on me that was full of original, fully produced songs by Jon Anderson. Some of those songs later ended up on new Yes albums. Some have never made it onto an album.

43 posted on 11/23/2012 6:15:24 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: newfreep

I should add, that at one time, this same buddy rented a house in Topanga Canyon from Malcolm Cecil, who used to produce Stevie Wonder. The basement was a home studio that Cecil had once used to mix tracks and record overdubs and such.

Well, one of the most interesting items in that basement was the original 24 track tape of Stevie Wonder’s “Superstition”. It just sat on a shelf, not locked up or anything. I felt honored just to hold it in my hands once.


44 posted on 11/23/2012 6:22:26 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Relax. I liked/like the Beatles’ music just about as most people did and still do. But the great legacy of the Decca label resides in their classical music recordings. Something that might not be recognized enough today - the Beatles did just fine on some other label, so their rejection by Decca did not deprive us of their talent. (And, for the record (heh!), I was not-quite-born-yet 50 years ago.)

Enjoy this evening with some of your favorite music, just as I will!


45 posted on 11/24/2012 12:32:39 PM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: newfreep
btw, if you ever have an interest in ultra-high performance audio gear, touch base with me. I’ll always help a fellow freeper.

Got NOS CCa tubes? ;-)

(Long time audiophile, though I don't buy into snake oil of any kind; Micro Seiki, Goldmund, Thorens turntables, too many cartridges to list, 1000s of LPs; New York Audio Labs tube gear, Krell sand amp; QUAD ESL, B&W, Sonus Faber speakers - hope the ears will persevere to the end.)

46 posted on 11/24/2012 1:11:02 PM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: Windflier

Thanks for your interesting posts.

Re: Stevie Wonder, his remasterings have been criticized for poor sonics due, in part, NOT using the original master tapes.

Perhaps we now know where those OMTs have been hiding.

Loved Stevie and Yes - saw the latter 3 times. Jon Anderson was a huge force in rock/progressive rock.

My mastering friend in LA is remastering “Close to the Edge”.


47 posted on 11/24/2012 2:48:51 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Moltke
...for the record (heh!), I was not-quite-born-yet 50 years ago.

Ah....your earlier comment now makes more sense to me.

I won't say that it's hard for someone not living during those times to fully appreciate the music of the Beatles, but if you were alive and listening during that era, your appreciation for their work would be much richer, due to your having been part of the culture that inspired it.

They were quite literally, the chief soundtrack of an era.

48 posted on 11/24/2012 4:25:19 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: newfreep
Re: Stevie Wonder, his remasterings have been criticized for poor sonics due, in part, NOT using the original master tapes. Perhaps we now know where those OMTs have been hiding.

I tell you, I was floored by the fact that such an important original work was simply lying on a basement shelf in an ordinary house. I honestly couldn't believe that it wasn't locked in a secure location with the rest of Stevie's life's work.

49 posted on 11/24/2012 4:29:19 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

True story....

My friend was hired to remaster “Aqualung” but could not find the true OMT. After a few years, he received a call from Ian Anderson who proclaimed he found the real original master tapes....in his garage!

True story.


50 posted on 11/24/2012 5:01:57 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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