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Scythian warriors show genetic blending between Europeans and Asians
Past Horizons Archaeology ^ | November 2012 | Universitat Auonoma de Barcelona

Posted on 11/23/2012 6:00:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Evidence of the potential genetic blending between Europeans and Asians has been discovered by a team of researchers led by the Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona (UAB) within the remains of Scythian warriors living over 2,000 years ago in the Altai region of Mongolia.

The Scythians were already documented as the first large Eurasian culture, but were believed to be the product of migration from Europe. The researchers now suggest that the genetic blending is actually a result of the expansion of Scythian culture over the mountains.

Studies on ancient mitochondrial DNA of this region suggest that the Altai Mountains played the role of a geographical barrier between West and East Eurasian lineages until the beginning of the Iron Age.

After the 7th century BC, coinciding with Scythian expansion across the Eurasian steppes, a gradual influx of East Eurasian sequences in Western steppes is detected. However, the underlying events behind the genetic admixture in Altai during the Iron Age are still unresolved: 1) whether it was a result of migratory events (eastward firstly, westward secondly), or 2) whether it was a result of a local demographic expansion in a 'contact zone' between European and East Asian people.

The Altai is a mountain range in Central Asia occupying territories of Russia and Kazakhstan to the west, and of Mongolia and China to the east.

(Excerpt) Read more at pasthorizonspr.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; scythians
Spatial frequency distribution maps of East Eurasian lineages -- A- Pre-Iron Age period; B- Iron Age period. Frequency values and detailed information for populations 1-8 are shown in table 3. 1- Mongolia (Altai), 2- Gorny Altai, 3- West Kazakhstan, 4- Central Kazakhstan, 5- South Kazakhstan, 6- East Kazakhstan, 7- SW Siberia, 8- Mongolia (Egyin Gol). Image: Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona

Scythian warriors show genetic blending between Europeans and Asians

1 posted on 11/23/2012 6:00:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

If I remember my Classics right, the Persians, Greeks and even the Romans feared the Scythians.

Isn’t that where Jason and the Argonauts found the golden fleece?


2 posted on 11/23/2012 6:05:12 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Scythian warriors carried Scythes, right??


3 posted on 11/23/2012 6:06:10 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

Scythians-—the stock of Scots and other Celts


4 posted on 11/23/2012 6:07:10 PM PST by Nifster
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To: GeronL

Scythians were Iranian nomadic warriors who did not weild scythes and had nothing to do with Celtic music??


5 posted on 11/23/2012 6:08:37 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: yarddog

They were feared so much it left Scyth marks on your subligar!


6 posted on 11/23/2012 6:09:35 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

and they still found time to invent Scyttles


7 posted on 11/23/2012 6:14:08 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
Let us not forget Scyther!!


8 posted on 11/23/2012 6:16:25 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Nifster

Now I’m talking to myself


9 posted on 11/23/2012 6:17:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

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Thanks Renfield.

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10 posted on 11/23/2012 6:19:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


11 posted on 11/23/2012 6:19:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
BUMP


12 posted on 11/23/2012 6:20:33 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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scythian warrior dna site:freerepublic.com
Google

13 posted on 11/23/2012 6:22:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: GeronL

Music for the thread...Scythian Empires

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSBLSfhVSR0


14 posted on 11/23/2012 6:25:08 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG ... there is no such thing as coincidence)
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To: SunkenCiv

Story of a Scythian princess

Idaea 2, daughter of King Dardanus 3 of Scythia, was the second wife of Phineus 2, the blind king and seer from Salmydessus in Thrace who received the ARGONAUTS. Idaea 2 falsely accused the sons of Phineus 2 by his former wife Cleopatra 5 of corrupting her virtue. For this charge—trying to rape their mother-in-law—the children of Phineus 2 (Plexippus 2 and Pandion 3) were shut within a burial vault where they were continually whipped. At the time, Heracles 1, who was sailing with the Boreades (Calais and Zetes), arrived to Thrace. Since the Boreades were the brothers of Cleopatra 5 they demanded that both their sister and the falsely accused youths were released. An armed conflict broke out, during which Phineus 2 was killed by Heracles 1. The released youths wished then to put Idaea 2 to death under torture, but Heracles 1 persuaded them to send her to Scythia for punishment, and there the Scythians condemned her to death.


15 posted on 11/23/2012 6:25:43 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Scythians produced many surviving examples of gold jewelry and metalwork. I saw a traveling exhibit some years ago which was on loan from Russia and it was most impressive.


16 posted on 11/23/2012 6:25:51 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Domestic Church

All Hail the Scythe...

It grows our food, it cuts the lawn, it chops down our enemies....

bow down to the mighty scythe


17 posted on 11/23/2012 6:26:51 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

great minds etc etc....


18 posted on 11/23/2012 6:29:15 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

It is one way to have a stimulating conversation I guess


19 posted on 11/23/2012 6:31:14 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

Boy, this one went downhill fast.


20 posted on 11/23/2012 6:33:32 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: yarddog

It’s probably a matter of opinion, probably could be settled with a Gallop Poll.

Oh, sorry.


21 posted on 11/23/2012 6:42:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ciexyz

They evidently blinded those they took in war according to Herodotus (and had some real strange cultural quirks to boot.)

http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Scythians.html


22 posted on 11/23/2012 7:06:29 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG ... there is no such thing as coincidence)
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To: Nifster

That is what my ancestry.com research seems to support.


23 posted on 11/23/2012 7:07:46 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: GeronL

Sounds like my family reunion.


24 posted on 11/23/2012 7:13:07 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

lolz


25 posted on 11/23/2012 7:15:30 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Scythian

bump


26 posted on 11/23/2012 7:16:11 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Scythians were famous for inventing a chariot with rotating scythes on their chariot wheels that could mow down solders in battle and wheat in peacetime. It was the first convertible car.


27 posted on 11/23/2012 7:18:34 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (yup)
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To: GeronL

at least you know that you are speaking with an equal ;)


28 posted on 11/23/2012 7:26:39 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Yes, but sometimes I’m not so sure


29 posted on 11/23/2012 7:28:33 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

I am always disappointed when I lose the argument...


30 posted on 11/23/2012 7:30:54 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

<— choked on ground beef patty


31 posted on 11/23/2012 7:38:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SunkenCiv
Sythian - Dance All Night.
32 posted on 11/23/2012 8:01:40 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: GeronL

sorry for that....sometimes I amuse even myself


33 posted on 11/23/2012 10:28:09 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

It was really funny


34 posted on 11/23/2012 10:48:40 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SunkenCiv
The team extracted and analysed mitochondrial DNA (inherited from the mother, it allows us to trace our ancestors) from the bones and teeth of 19 Pazyryk skeletons dating to the Bronze Age (7th to 10th century BCE) and from the Iron Age (2nd to 7th century BCE) from the Mongolian Altai Mountains.

It's incredible the doors to our past that modern technology can open for us.

35 posted on 11/24/2012 7:08:26 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: SunkenCiv
You are millions. We are hordes and hordes and hordes.
Try and take us on!
Yes, we are Scythians! Yes, we are Asians -
With slanted and greedy eyes!

Alexander Blok

36 posted on 11/24/2012 7:09:33 AM PST by Oratam
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To: bunkerhill7
Our word "scythe" is of Anglo-Saxon origin and has nothing to do with the Scythians.

The Greek word for "scythe" was drepanon or drepane. Xenophon mentions the use of scythe-bearing (drepanephoros) chariots in the battle of Cunaxa.

Darius I campaigned against Scythians in southeastern Europe about 513 B.C. (the campaign is described at some length in Herodotus). Their language was part of the Iranian branch of the Indo-European language family.

Medieval Buddhist manuscripts have been found in Chinese Turkestan with two Indo-European languages, known as Tocharian A and Tocharian B, now extinct, that are closely related to each other and resemble the languages of Europe (the "centum" languages) more than the Indo-Iranian or Slavic languages (the "satem" languages) which were geographically closer to them.

37 posted on 11/24/2012 11:23:02 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Thw Scythians also invented Scotch, which they took into battle to fortify their scythe chariot drivers to enable the driver to steer randomly in a nonsensical pattern so as to confuse their enemies. It was the first DWI. [Driving Warrior Intoxicated].


38 posted on 11/24/2012 1:20:36 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (yup)
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To: SunkenCiv
I believe the Scythians were the first to rape Thrace thrice.
39 posted on 11/25/2012 7:18:09 AM PST by ABN 505
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To: ABN 505

;’)


40 posted on 11/25/2012 7:30:06 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
There were several clans of Scythians.

This is John the the four Scythe.


41 posted on 11/25/2012 7:30:57 AM PST by DainBramage
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