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Huge Mars Colony Eyed by SpaceX Founder Elon Musk
SPACE.com ^ | Date: 23 November 2012 Time: 07:00 AM ET | Rob Coppinger,

Posted on 11/24/2012 2:48:04 PM PST by BenLurkin

In Musk's vision, the ambitious Mars settlement program would start with a pioneering group of fewer than 10 people, who would journey to the Red Planet aboard a huge reusable rocket powered by liquid oxygen and methane.

"At Mars, you can start a self-sustaining civilization and grow it into something really big," Musk told an audience at the Royal Aeronautical Society in London on Friday (Nov. 16). Musk was there to talk about his business plans, and to receive the Society’s gold medal for his contribution to the commercialization of space.

(Excerpt) Read more at space.com ...


TOPICS: Travel
KEYWORDS: elonmusk; mars; spacex

1 posted on 11/24/2012 2:48:11 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
I say let two of those ten be zero and his fag hag.

Leave the kids here ... they're still young enough ... I think we can straighten them out.

If socialism and power is so wonderful ...

GO

Build your colony ... write your constitution, pen your EO's, make law .. eat, drink and be merry and gay.


We'll ship ice cream once a year.

2 posted on 11/24/2012 2:54:02 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: BenLurkin

Ehhhhh.....I been to Mars. Looks like Detroit without the Eiffel Tower.


3 posted on 11/24/2012 3:04:22 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: BenLurkin
"At Mars, you can start a self-sustaining civilization and grow it into something really big,"

You can but only if you can produce enough to trade and you have an increasing stream of settlers.

I'm all for it. Mars is looking increasingly livable within certain parameters. Its not a total vacuum which helps a lot. Radiation levels at the surface are comparable to what astronauts on the ISS experience.
4 posted on 11/24/2012 3:07:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: knarf

Just don’t let him have any dogs up there


5 posted on 11/24/2012 3:25:10 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: BenLurkin

There is absolutely no point to settling Mars. The Moon at least has massive reserves of Helium-3. @hat does Mars have? And it is vastly farther away.


6 posted on 11/24/2012 3:31:54 PM PST by montag813
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To: BenLurkin
While a Mars colony sounds nice, as does a moon colony, where will the water come from? Yep, you can grow vegetation inside a dome for the oxygen, and food, but you need water to do that, you also have to have some for the humans to drink.

All this may seem obvious but I have yet to see anyone explain where this water will come from. Ice on Mars, I am sure, but how much and how difficult to get to it?

7 posted on 11/24/2012 3:49:42 PM PST by calex59
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To: montag813

Mars has plenty of water, you just have to have the equipment in place to get at it and separate out the H2 from the O.


8 posted on 11/24/2012 3:52:53 PM PST by AU72
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To: AU72

The real problem is getting there. Life on the surface is technologically much easier to deal with than the moon. You don’t need the bulky suit on mars. You don’t have a 2 week day and two week night like the moon. Radiation levels at the surface are comparable to what astronauts in low earth orbit experience. There are caves on mars that could serve as handy shelters if the entrances are covered. Its cold on mars but the day night temperature fluctuations aren’t nearly as wide as they are on the moon.


9 posted on 11/24/2012 4:04:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BenLurkin
This is going to make Marvin very angry. He doesn't like it when huge colonies on Mars, are "eyed".
10 posted on 11/24/2012 4:06:37 PM PST by BlueDragon
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To: BenLurkin

Send Michelle. They need Moms.


11 posted on 11/24/2012 4:10:24 PM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: BenLurkin

Mars ain’t the kind of place to raise your kids, in fact it’s cold as hell


12 posted on 11/24/2012 4:15:26 PM PST by jaz.357 (Welcome to hell. Here's your accordion.)
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To: jaz.357

And there’s no one there to raise them if you did


13 posted on 11/24/2012 4:19:29 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: calex59

The water comes from the soil. Even if the soil does not contain significant amounts of water ice, the planet has an immense quantity of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere which would be combined with the hyrogen in the rock to produce water.

If the prospect of using such chemical means to produce large amounts of water is deemed to be too impractical, it would not be unreasonable to redirect the orbital path of a comet or water rich asteroid to impact on Mars and thereby resupply Mars with seas of water.


14 posted on 11/24/2012 4:36:32 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

I think moisture in the soil may be the big discovery they’re talking about lately. To those with no real interest it doesn’t seem like much but water in the soil would be earthshaking in science circles.


15 posted on 11/24/2012 4:48:08 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: montag813

Moon also has Thorium and exotic minerals for mining.

All we need are some Hortas and we’re set!!!


16 posted on 11/24/2012 4:59:50 PM PST by Kolath
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To: montag813
What does Mars have?

It's absolute absence of liberals seems promising. I've been working on a ship in my garage ever since the pictures came back and showed no liberals in all directions.

17 posted on 11/24/2012 5:07:52 PM PST by douginthearmy
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To: BenLurkin

He can’t even get proper electric cars working with hundreds of millions of investor dollars.

He’s gotta walk before he can run.


18 posted on 11/24/2012 5:40:04 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Kolath

I prefer the Botany Bay solution.


19 posted on 11/24/2012 5:45:28 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: KevinDavis

Thanks BenLurkin.

NASA Not Sharing a “Historic” Find On Mars.... yet
C-Net | Novembe 21 ,2012 | Eric Mack
Posted on 11/24/2012 5:03:29 PM PST by lbryce
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2962704/posts


20 posted on 11/24/2012 5:59:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Kolath
All we need are some Hortas and we’re set!!!

Now THAT'S what Musk should be investing in: bioengineering a Horta. That and finding dilithium crystals.

21 posted on 11/24/2012 6:57:24 PM PST by montag813
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To: BenLurkin

rocket powered by liquid oxygen and methane.

I suggest they take plenty of beans to eat on the way there. Then they can produce some of their own fuel.


22 posted on 11/24/2012 7:12:17 PM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: rfreedom4u

There’s a plan for that...http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2962433/posts


23 posted on 11/24/2012 7:15:32 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: faithhopecharity

“Just don’t let him have any dogs up there.”

Will the solar system police show up and shoot it?


24 posted on 11/24/2012 9:02:21 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: BenLurkin

“who would journey to the Red Planet aboard a huge reusable rocket powered by liquid oxygen and methane.”

Does SpaceX plan to use all that non-existent methane on Mars that Curiosity can’t detect?


25 posted on 11/24/2012 9:04:03 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

For his dinner, yes


26 posted on 11/24/2012 9:55:06 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: WhiskeyX
If the prospect of using such chemical means to produce large amounts of water is deemed to be too impractical, it would not be unreasonable to redirect the orbital path of a comet or water rich asteroid to impact on Mars and thereby resupply Mars with seas of water.

You really think we have the ability to divert the path of a comet? And even if we could the reason Mars has no surface water is the fact the atmosphere is so thin that the water has either frozen or evaporated at a high rate. New water would evaporate just as fast as the old water did.

To make Mars livable, truly livable, we would have to somehow reinstate a liquid core(molten of course)in the center of the planet thereby re-establishing the magnetic field that would allow the atmosphere to become heavier. With our present technology I don't think this is feasible.

27 posted on 11/24/2012 11:57:00 PM PST by calex59
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