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No permits issued yet for Chippewa night deer hunt
SFgate ^ | November 26, 2012 | TODD RICHMOND

Posted on 11/26/2012 6:26:50 PM PST by SJackson

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Night deer hunting for Wisconsin's Chippewa tribes began Monday evening, but a spokeswoman for the commission overseeing it said no hunters had obtained permits to participate.

The Great Lakes Indian Fish and Wildlife Commission, which oversees the Chippewa's off-reservation treaty rights, authorized night hunting last week for tribal members who meet a number of safety requirements, including a marksmanship test. The decision drew sharp opposition from state officials, who said night deer hunting was too dangerous and have gone to court to stop it.

Commission spokeswoman Sue Erickson said 74 tribal members from five of Wisconsin's six Chippewa tribes met the marksmanship requirements, making them eligible for a permit. However, none had applied by Monday afternoon. If they had, they would have been able to head out 50 minutes after sunset, a day after the state's traditional firearms season ended.

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1 posted on 11/26/2012 6:26:58 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Did the Chippewa traditionally shine deer?


2 posted on 11/26/2012 6:29:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..
If you’d like to be on or off this Outdoors/Rural/wildlife/hunting/hiking/backpacking/National Parks/animals list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.

Should note that the ceded territory is about a third of the State of Wisconsin. Personally I'm not sure night hunting would be a particular problem, though perhaps might be necessary to be restricted on public lands. Chippewa excepted.

3 posted on 11/26/2012 6:32:06 PM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..
If you’d like to be on or off this Outdoors/Rural/wildlife/hunting/hiking/backpacking/National Parks/animals list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.

Should note that the ceded territory is about a third of the State of Wisconsin. Personally I'm not sure night hunting would be a particular problem, though perhaps might be necessary to be restricted on public lands. Chippewa excepted.

4 posted on 11/26/2012 6:32:53 PM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: cripplecreek

Sure, they had spotlights when they made the treaty in (I think) the mid late 1840s. Give the elders credit for thinking ahead, at least when it comes to game. Who would have thought you’d need licenses back in the day.


5 posted on 11/26/2012 6:35:07 PM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: cripplecreek
We are getting close to a full moon, and it's pretty bright out there, if your eyes are adjusted.

Except for the fact that it's unlawful... I could see the practicality of a night hunt without a spotlight.

There's a reason for the historical phrase "Hunter's Moon".

/johnny

6 posted on 11/26/2012 6:35:28 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Well, I think the issue here revolves more about treaty rights. But I think a night hunt would be interesting. If safety is an issue, perhaps try it with bow.


7 posted on 11/26/2012 6:39:54 PM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Its pretty bright here tonight but I don’t trust my eyes in the dark the way I used too. We used to run through the woods chasing coonhounds without lights but these days I wouldn’t do it with a light.


8 posted on 11/26/2012 6:41:00 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SJackson
But I think a night hunt would be interesting.

I wouldn't know. It would be unlawful these days. ;)

/johnny

9 posted on 11/26/2012 6:43:25 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cripplecreek
I don’t trust my eyes in the dark the way I used to

Yeah, I break easier, also. ;)

/johnny

10 posted on 11/26/2012 6:45:00 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cripplecreek

Depends on how far away from the SUV/4-wheeler they are.


11 posted on 11/26/2012 6:49:32 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: cripplecreek

I have hunted at night quite a few times but it is legal here for predators only, not game animals.
You can only hunt at night on private property with the owners permission.

Shining Jacks at night is a hoot.


12 posted on 11/26/2012 7:13:05 PM PST by fudimo
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To: SJackson

You have to wonder why the SF Chronicle would care about Indian hunting rights in Wisconsin.


13 posted on 11/26/2012 7:14:39 PM PST by MNnice
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To: cripplecreek

No, they used to net them.


14 posted on 11/26/2012 7:17:46 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: fudimo

I spent a night at a friend’s ranch on pest patrol spotlighting and exterminating armadillos.


15 posted on 11/26/2012 7:27:28 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: JRandomFreeper

***There’s a reason for the historical phrase “Hunter’s Moon”.***

The Comanche moon, and Apache moon. That’s when they went out on night war raids because it was so light.


16 posted on 11/26/2012 7:28:23 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Didn't know about that connotation. Thanks for the information. I'll do some reading.

I first learned about any kind of 'hunter's moon' from the phrase 'la lune du chasseur' in a rather racy book written in French that I was claiming was required reading material when I was about 11. ;)

Technically, Sept is the Harvest Moon, Oct. is Hunter's Moon, and November's moon is.... bright.

/johnny

17 posted on 11/26/2012 7:37:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: MNnice

Where’s my casino ?


18 posted on 11/26/2012 7:45:23 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: SJackson

Indians have hunted at night ever since they arrived here. Asking a marksmanship test is asinine, as anyone who ever trained LEO’s at a range can affirm those usually at risk of shooting their own foot or their fellow LEO checking the shooting skills of hunters is going from the sublime to the ridiculous.


19 posted on 11/26/2012 8:22:37 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: SJackson
Who has the advantage? Carl? Carl? Is that you? You look different, since you've gone vegan.


20 posted on 11/26/2012 9:01:07 PM PST by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Except for the fact that it's unlawful... I could see the practicality of a night hunt without a spotlight.

My dad spot light hunted 60 years ago. It was illegal then too but a great way to help feed 7 children.

21 posted on 11/26/2012 9:15:37 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: SJackson

22 posted on 11/26/2012 10:02:33 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: cripplecreek

I used to have an uncle in northern Michigan who enjoyed nighttime deer hunting......year round.


23 posted on 11/27/2012 2:41:53 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: SJackson
If safety is an issue, perhaps try it with bow.

It's hard enough tracking a faint blood trail in daylight let alone at night and I certainly wouldn't want to be in a position to try and find my way back to the truck after wandering thru the woods in the pitch dark with just a flashlight

24 posted on 11/27/2012 2:50:03 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: SJackson; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; ...

Night deer hunting in Wisconsin for the Chippewa?

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


25 posted on 11/27/2012 6:37:34 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SJackson

This whole deal is in response to the new Wisconsin wolf hunt. The tribe considers the wolf a spiritual animal and is against hunting them. Now that wolf hunting is allowed they are trying to get even.

Honestly, I don’t understand why the state needs to take them to court. I would just issue a statement that any night hunting of deer on non-reservation land is illegal and will result in the normal penalties and arrest that is in place for everyone else.


26 posted on 11/27/2012 9:07:01 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: SJackson

This is about the Indian nation testing and broadening their sovereign nation rights. They now have $$$$ from gaming and can hire the best Lawyers to work the judicial system.


27 posted on 11/27/2012 9:15:05 AM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Agree about the difficulty of the blood trail. Finding your way simply a matter of judgement. In the estraordinarily unlikely event night hunting should become legal for the masses, I predict many lost and freezing hunters.


28 posted on 11/27/2012 4:38:55 PM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

Interesting, didn’t know that.


29 posted on 11/27/2012 4:39:33 PM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: SJackson; JRandomFreeper
I recently drawed out for a recurve/long bow hunt only here in OK.

It was a full moon all weekend...sucked for hunting...but if some buck would have walked by before legal hunting...A person could have flung an arrow at them.

Moon light was bright..and the sky was clear.

30 posted on 11/27/2012 5:18:39 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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