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To: Jonty30

NO...it will NOT end with legalization...certain segments will still be UNDERGROUND...and there will be OTHER drugs...the only way to control this is to shoot within 1 MONTH of capture and CONVICTION drug pushers. Otherwise, we will have THIS (war) in OUR streets (more than it already is.)


16 posted on 11/27/2012 3:52:30 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: goodnesswins

Let me say this, I honestly don’t like drugs and have no understanding as to why people would volunteer to become drug dependent.

Having said that, many people who are in prison are there over a minor drug conviction, a couple of ounces of pot.

If regulation worked for booze, because there are no massive battles with rum runners anymore, the principle should work for drugs as well. Allow the pharmaceuticals to produce safe drugs that people can consume safely and minimal addictiveness and end the war on drugs.

It’s either that or we will end with a police state.


17 posted on 11/27/2012 3:59:37 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: goodnesswins

And I agree with you that there will always be a market for highly dangerous and instantly addictive drugs. You can’t stop stupid.

Im more concerned with the 85%, or whatever, users could be steered away from crack or meth, if they had a safe supply from some authorized dealer.

The illegal dealers will always be problematic, no matter what they do. However, we can reduce then to a more manageable number, they would be easier to contain.


23 posted on 11/27/2012 4:20:42 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: goodnesswins
What's that line? Written in stone by God himself?

Something about not doing something?

It's scary how sometimes you can forget the very words themselves isn't it?

28 posted on 11/27/2012 4:41:14 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: goodnesswins

“NO...it will NOT end with legalization...certain segments will still be UNDERGROUND...and there will be OTHER drugs...”

That’s really an argument for, not against legalization. We didn’t have any “drug culture” or “underground” trying to find new novelty drugs to skirt drug laws until we started classifying and scheduling all the prohibited substances that the government couldn’t trust adult citizens with. As long as we have a list of prohibited substances, there will be an underground drug culture, and a constant stream of new drugs with unknown properties. The only way to get rid of those things is to get rid of the list that created them.

Really, your comment reads like you won’t be satisfied until there is no drug use in society. That’s an impossible scenario that will never happen in the real world, and conservatives don’t deal in utopian fantasies. People are always going to abuse drugs, and government will never be able to put a stop to it, even if we executed all the drug pushers AND the drug users. You might as well try to outlaw sex and see how that goes.


34 posted on 11/27/2012 5:17:10 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: goodnesswins

There are two and only two ways to stop the drug trade.

1. Make any and all drugs legal. No profits, no illegal drug trade, no associated violence.

2. Massively crack down on the users. Any black market problem can only be addressed by stopping the demand. Attempts to stop the supply only constrict it, drive up prices and profits, and provide massive incentives for new people to enter the business.

By necessity any attempts to enforce #2 would be hugely oppressive and unpopular. Probably could not be done while respecting present American civil rights. Something I’ve always found interesting is that an entire country stopped a massive drug trade in the 20th century, and nobody ever talks about it.

This was the ChiComs after their conquest of the country. A huge percentage of the population was heavily addicted to opium. The commies stopped this, using drastic methods that won’t fly in America, of course.

What greatly irritates me is the way some Americans denounce the excesses of the suppliers, many of whom are foreigners, when the cause of all this is, always has been and always will be those who provide the funding for the operation. The (mostly) American drug users.


56 posted on 11/28/2012 2:46:55 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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