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Black Standard Poodle

Posted on 11/27/2012 3:10:13 PM PST by VA Voter

We just lost our 11.5 year old female Black Standard Poodle to complications from gastric torsion surgery: pneumonia and cardiac arrest. This was our second standard and are committed to the breed. We would like to replace her but there are having trouble finding litters here in VA or in the neighboring states of MD, WV or NC.

We would appreciate it if anyone knows of a breeder or a home breeder within 300-400 miles of Richmond, VA. We are not interested in showing and would prefer a black female puppy that would probably top out around 65-70 lbs which is larger than customary. If necessary, we would be willing to pay to have her shipped so this could extend the distance for the right fit.

Thank you.


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1 posted on 11/27/2012 3:10:18 PM PST by VA Voter
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To: VA Voter

Too far away to help you, but sorry for your loss.


2 posted on 11/27/2012 3:14:19 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: VA Voter

Google it 41,700 pages for black Standard poodle Richmond VA...

http://richmond.ebayclassifieds.com/dogs-puppies/richmond/akc-standard-poodles/?ad=24458805


3 posted on 11/27/2012 3:16:13 PM PST by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Thank you.


4 posted on 11/27/2012 3:17:14 PM PST by VA Voter
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To: VA Voter

Sorry for your loss.


5 posted on 11/27/2012 3:21:26 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: VA Voter; Joe 6-pack

Doggie ping.

My condolences for the loss of your dog. My daughter lost her black standard rescue poodle a couple of years ago at age 16 1/2 for the same reason. She was devastated.

Check out the breeders carefully. My daughter finally adopted a red standard poodle after a lengthy search, but found a lot of eccentric breeders in the mean time. Then (after a year with the new dog) somebody gave her a black standard female poodle after the previous owner died suddenly. So, now she has 2 dogs.

But, I could write a book about some of the people she dealt with to acquire those 2 dogs! I think she could have adopted a child easier.


6 posted on 11/27/2012 3:21:59 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: GSP.FAN

We Googled and Binged but somehow we missed the link you showed. Thanks.


7 posted on 11/27/2012 3:27:54 PM PST by VA Voter
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To: VA Voter

I live in Gloucester County... I have a neighbor who walks two Standards.. one gray and one black. Nexty time I see her (don`t know her), I`ll ask. Hope that helps.


8 posted on 11/27/2012 3:28:11 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

:)


9 posted on 11/27/2012 3:29:52 PM PST by VA Voter
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To: ScottinVA

That would be great. Thanks.


10 posted on 11/27/2012 3:36:44 PM PST by VA Voter
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To: VA Voter
I have some good friends who breed red poodles specifically for retrieving work.

They are not show dogs but actual working bird dogs - outrageously expensive I might add.

But they know just about everybody in the poodle world, and I will contact them to see if they know a reputable poodle breeder in RIC.

11 posted on 11/27/2012 3:38:51 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: VA Voter

Love standards. I am on my second.

http://www.parrishill.com

great breeder in NJ


12 posted on 11/27/2012 3:39:10 PM PST by hecht (america 9/11, Israel 24/7)
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To: GSP.FAN

Those are very reasonable prices for a Standard Poodle puppy. When my daughter was looking, all of the puppies she was able to find were in the $2000-$3000 range. She ended up “rescuing” 2 dogs for free — one from a breeder (the dog turns out to have serious health problems, but she is managing) and one from someone who died. (Poodles are never “free” just because of the grooming expenses.)

She was looking for an adult dog that no one wanted to breed — not a puppy. But those were the prices she encountered. $2000-$3000.


13 posted on 11/27/2012 3:39:44 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: VA Voter

BTW all colors are great, but mY beloved black who passed away 6 years ago didnt photograph well. Bad lighting in NJ.
white and silver are more photogenic


14 posted on 11/27/2012 3:41:01 PM PST by hecht (america 9/11, Israel 24/7)
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To: VA Voter

here is some more links...
http://www.tidelandspoodleclub.org/breederreferral.cfm

http://www.poodleclubofamerica.org/find.htm


15 posted on 11/27/2012 3:44:17 PM PST by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: VA Voter

http://www.arispoodles.com/contact.htm

Breeder in NC and FL


16 posted on 11/27/2012 3:45:22 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Insane, and quite overboard. So many of those we met while looking for either of two specific breeds we wanted once upon a time many years ago were obviously Liberal, so taken with themselves, and the little part of their animal specific breed World it’s a wonder the animals didn’t puke themselves to death as their humanoids pontificated, and posed.

We love animals. Our lives having been pretty much dedicated to them next only to one another. Over almost 35 years of marriage we’ve had 40 dogs, and as many cats as well other animals including Donkeys, Horses, Ducks, Chickens, and some cockatiels, but not in the numbers as the dogs, and cats.

We know animals. We care for them when they show up at our door with their lost dog bone, and patheticat expressions, and crumble to their will.

Libs make everything more than it is to make themselves appear necessary, and if they can’t do it with BS, they become even more creative.


17 posted on 11/27/2012 3:45:37 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: VA Voter

Best dog I ever had or ever will have was a standard poodle. Smart, protective and loyal, able to swim to a depth of about 10 ft and retrieve rocks or golf balls. Amazing dogs, sorry for your loss and best of luck with your search.


18 posted on 11/27/2012 3:46:20 PM PST by singletrack (..................................................................)
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To: VA Voter
To look for a good breeder you might check the AKC website and/or go to a sanctioned dog show. Look at the dogs yourself and ask around among the breeders for good info.

Good breeders know good breeders and are always interested in talking to people who really care about their breed.

19 posted on 11/27/2012 3:46:33 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Geez that is expensive have to Huskies both around $600 ten years ago fairly low maintenance ,by the way i think its time to chance your name to terrifiedfortherepublic..:>)


20 posted on 11/27/2012 3:50:10 PM PST by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: singletrack
Got a black standard poodle
Got a black standard poodle
Ive got a black standard poodle
Got me so blind I can't see...

21 posted on 11/27/2012 3:53:39 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: VA Voter
Wow, they got RIGHT back to me.

They are breeding one of their red girls to a Black conformation champion with agility titles and expect pups in February, ready to go in April. Pups should be all black since black is dominant. Parents already have all their health clearances and they give a two year health guarantee.

We're 10 hours from Richmond (we drive it all the time since hubby's mom lives in Henrico), but these are REALLY nice dogs. I have trained and competed alongside them for years, and I can highly recommend them as ethical breeders and trainers. Rich has the patience of a saint!

Their website is here: Louter Creek Hunting Poodles.

22 posted on 11/27/2012 3:54:22 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: VA Voter

I’m much too far away to help, but your loss saddens me. You might try to hunt for a poodle rescue group in the area.


23 posted on 11/27/2012 4:04:55 PM PST by JRjr (hMMM?)
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To: VA Voter

I’m much too far away to help, but your loss saddens me. You might try to hunt for a poodle rescue group in the area.


24 posted on 11/27/2012 4:05:04 PM PST by JRjr (hMMM?)
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To: VA Voter

So sorry for your loss! I still miss my Briard, Pandemonium. I’m 6’2” tall, and Pandy would stand up, put his front paws on my shoulders, and look me straight in the eye. Scared the cr@p outa some guys that wanted to rob my old farmhouse. I like Poodles that aren’t given the “standard” haircut.


25 posted on 11/27/2012 4:11:41 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: VA Voter

We got a very nice healthy and well cared for standard poodle from this place:

http://www.familyaffairstandards.com/

It is just northeast of Raleigh. I was somewhat doubtful until I visited the place. They do a good job and have a good selection.

We bought a red standard there. He has been great.

Visit the place. Notice how clean it is. My wife wanted a red standard. They had several and she walked out with the biggest, wiggliest one. He just turned 10 months old.

When we got him we had a 6 year old spaded Weimaraner bitch. I was somewhat skeptical about how she was going to receive this new pup. She loves him even though he aggravates her to no end. My theory is that she wanted to be a mama and now she has a surrogate kid.

Anyway, these folks are worth a look. I know nothing about the other places recommended here so they may be just as good.


26 posted on 11/27/2012 4:15:01 PM PST by Tom D.
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27 posted on 11/27/2012 4:15:53 PM PST by RedMDer (Please support Toys for Tots this CHRISTmas season.)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; afraidfortherepublic; ...
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28 posted on 11/27/2012 4:54:10 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: GSP.FAN
by the way i think its time to chance your name to terrifiedfortherepublic..:>)

LOL. I hadn't considered that but it's a good suggestion! Back when Bush was elected in 2000, people suggested that I get a new name, but I declined, saying that I was still afraidfortherepublic. Turns out I was right. I write on another website as keeptherepublic, but that is not working too well eithr!

30 posted on 11/27/2012 5:04:58 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: AnAmericanMother

I understand that you have to breed a black poodle back into the red poodle line about every 3rd generation so that the reds hold their color. Just a bit of trivia.


31 posted on 11/27/2012 5:08:40 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: VA Voter

Sorry for your loss. About a month ago we lost our 6 YO Belgian Tervuren (Larsen) to the same thing. We are picking up a Tri-Colored Rough Coat Collie male puppy next weekend. Hope you have success in your search.


32 posted on 11/27/2012 5:18:26 PM PST by MtnClimber (I did not vote for 0bama, someone else did that!)
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To: AnAmericanMother
"Their website is here: Louter Creek Hunting Poodles."

I went to the website & loved watching the video of 12 wk old little female, 'Whiskey' training to retrieve. sooooo cute & smart as a whip!!

33 posted on 11/27/2012 5:31:46 PM PST by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: VA Voter

I’m sorry to hear about your loss. You might want to check into prophylactic gastropexy, which can be done at the time your pup is spayed/neutered. It is not 100% effective in preventing gastric dilatation/volvulus, but pretty close. More and more military working dogs are getting prophylactic gastropexies to save the government money overall -— or at least that was the case before I retired. Any deep chested breed is at risk, and I lost a Borzoi of my own to GDV.

Good luck with your new puppy!!!


34 posted on 11/27/2012 6:21:10 PM PST by LTC.Ret (You'd think I would know better than to volunteer!!! www.sendmetocongress.us)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Yep got banned from FR back then, was not a “Bushbot” my how times have not changed..Gotta go batten down the hatches got a big storm kicking in here in CA ..
Stay safe and keep the powder dry..


35 posted on 11/27/2012 6:36:12 PM PST by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: VA Voter

Check poodle rescue. Florida Poodle Rescue has had quite a few puppies lately. So sorry for your loss. I know only too well the profound sorrow.


36 posted on 11/27/2012 6:37:04 PM PST by CaraMiaR (Excuse me, I have to adjust my aluminium hat.)
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To: LADY J

Whiskey is much older now - she will be the dam of the upcoming litter. She IS a very personable and clever little girl.


37 posted on 11/27/2012 6:50:35 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: VA Voter
I'm sorry for your loss. Have you tried Pet Finder.com?
38 posted on 11/27/2012 6:52:53 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: LTC.Ret
We did a gastropexy on our middle Lab when she was spayed. She was of a body type and temperament that's prone to bloat. . . Tall and narrow, nervous, and bolts her food.

So far so good. Causes of bloat are so poorly understood.

39 posted on 11/27/2012 7:06:00 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Learn something every day. All I know about poodles is what I have picked up watching Rich train.

Their big male, Cooper, is the only Poodle with the top retriever titles in all three associations - AKC (Master Hunter), HRC (Hunting Retriever Champion) and NAHRA (Master Hunting Retriever). He hunts in Arkansas and Mississippi too.

40 posted on 11/27/2012 7:10:38 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

You have to read about Shangri-la Poodles and the development of the Red Standard Poodle. The red standard was first developed by crossing a small standard apricot with a large red miniature. But, these early breeding attempts did not hold their color until the breeders started introducing a black standard in the breeding cycle about every 3 generations (I think it’s 3 — it’s been a while since I read all of this.)

My daughter owns a red standard male whose pedigree goes back to the Shangri-la Kennels. There was a parallel program going on in Oregon at the same time as Shangri-la, and all of the red standard poodles are derived from those 2 lines, I think. My daughter’s red male is out of Red Kismet of Leatherstocking Kennels in NY. I’ve forgotten the name of the dam. My grandchildren named him “Rusty” which (I think) irritated the breeder who was calling him JR. (Red Kismet, Jr. )

Some history here, including Leatherstocking and a picture of my daughter’s dog’s sire, Red Kismet:

http://www.bijoupoodles.com/Redhistory.html


41 posted on 11/27/2012 7:44:37 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: blueunicorn6

Use a search engine and search for listserv standard poodle. This will turn up a listing of the mailing lists that only deal with standard poodles. That is all they want to talk about. I belong to a couple for Airedale Terriers and Cairn Terriers. These mailing lists are made up of breeders, owners, judges etc all over the world. They will know where all the litters are from reputable breeders and rescues. They also set up non show events for us normal owners. Great place to ask questions about you dog (health, behavior, first aid, trading issues.)


42 posted on 11/27/2012 10:37:42 PM PST by airedale
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To: VA Voter

Be very careful when you deal with breeders. I am sure you have heard of puppy mills. Make sure you check out the breeders credentials with the AKC. No, I don’t belong to their organization but I do know they are very careful about accreditation of breeders.


43 posted on 11/27/2012 11:37:57 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: VA Voter

I typed in my MD address since it’s not far from you; adjust accordingly.

http://www.akc.org/classified/search/index.cfm

Of course there are other registries and databases to help. I would check the Poodle Club of America.

Good luck. I personally cannot go from 1 dog to another just like that! I’d probably wait a year.


44 posted on 11/28/2012 6:53:03 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Not bad for an adult. Lots of German Shepherd Babies were going for $1000-1500 when I was last looking, even though I really wasn’t interested in any kind of competition, seriously. My current was cheap at $600.


45 posted on 11/28/2012 6:59:25 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: rockinqsranch

ROFL I love your general experience juxtaposed with their myopic views of special dogs of a certain breed! I know a bit about breeders. Nowadays you’re required to jump every hoop to be acceptable to them. But basically, they hold you hostage with “deposits”. This was not standard when I got my first serious dog in the ‘80s, thank God. Otherwise I probably would not have had my most wonderful dog. But now getting a purebred is a PITA.


46 posted on 11/28/2012 7:06:59 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: rockinqsranch

My brother is a veterinarian and he has absolutely no use for dog breeders.


47 posted on 11/28/2012 7:12:10 AM PST by Ditter
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I disagree, to a point.

The conformation breeders have gotten pretty nutty. Deposits, spay-neuter agreements, co-owner agreements, all sorts of weird stuff.

I haven't seen this with the performance breeders . . . YET. Most of them are quite sensible, even the top-flight breeders. I got a nice (if crazy) pup from probably the best breeder of field trial Labs in the country. It was very straightforward, we just corresponded and shook hands on the deal. Only requirement was to use the kennel name in her registered name.

It wasn't anyone's fault that she turned out to be EIC Affected. There was no genetic test for that condition until she was two years old. So I spayed her. She's still a very nice (if crazy) Lab, the retriever judges absolutely love her because she has that elusive quality called "style". Control, however, is still an issue!

48 posted on 11/28/2012 10:09:09 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Thanks! Very interesting reading. Confirms my opinion that dog breeding is still an art and not a science!


49 posted on 11/28/2012 10:12:48 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Yes, we were looking for a Greyhound one experience, and after several encounters of the worst kind decided it wasn’t worth our time. One’s appearance before these Lords of the Dogs only feeds their insatiable voids. Then another occasion a year, or perhaps two later we were looking for a Great Pyrenees, but SHEESH!!!

We have enough that come to us of their own free will having been either dumped, or having become lost after Fourth of July, or New Years celebrations drove them from their homes in panic. We’ve spent much time trying to find lost one’s homes over the many years all too often to no avail, so we care for them until their time.

Currently we are down to three dogs, fifteen cats, two guest cats, two horses, and one donkey.


50 posted on 11/28/2012 2:18:51 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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