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WordPress Website ^ | 11.30.12 | Chckensoup

Posted on 11/29/2012 8:59:51 AM PST by Chickensoup

Am thinking of leaving my much beloved FrontPage to move my old old website to WordPress.

It seems to be a dream come true for a tech-idiot like me. The man who I spoke with stated he could set me up for about 3K. I would be doing the movement of content, and day to day management.

Your thoughts about this software option would be much appreciated and respected.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: software; vanity; wordpress
Am thinking of leaving my much beloved FrontPage to move my old old website to WordPress.

It seems to be a dream come true for a tech-idiot like me. The man who I spoke with stated he could set me up for about 3K. I would be doing the movement of content, and day to day management.

Your thoughts about this software option would be much appreciated and respected.

1 posted on 11/29/2012 8:59:54 AM PST by Chickensoup
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To: Chickensoup

Why?


2 posted on 11/29/2012 9:01:15 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Chickensoup

What is your site that it would cost 3k to convert it?


3 posted on 11/29/2012 9:05:56 AM PST by mnehring
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To: AppyPappy

want better formating, more flexibility and better tools. FP is no longer supported out there and now that screens are wider my entire site lists to the left.


4 posted on 11/29/2012 9:06:14 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Chickensoup

The WordPress framework is free. Why do you want to pay someone $3000 to set you up when you can do it yourself. I am not that impressed by it, myself. Do not care for PHP.


5 posted on 11/29/2012 9:06:59 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Chickensoup

Please tell us something about your website and what it is that you want it to do that it does not do now or what it does now that you do not want it to do.


6 posted on 11/29/2012 9:07:07 AM PST by posterchild (Remember that thou art dust, and to dust thou shalt return.)
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To: Chickensoup; ShadowAce

Shadow Ace does the tech ping

I thought Wordpress was just a blogsite. lol


7 posted on 11/29/2012 9:10:12 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

It is a word intensive site. I am not technically adroit?


8 posted on 11/29/2012 9:13:42 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Chickensoup

I setup a blog on WordPress for my high school alumni. Easy to use and a number of features but only compliant from folks was they always had to scroll down to the end to see the new posts and there was no easy way to reverse them so the newest were at the top.


9 posted on 11/29/2012 9:13:42 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Chickensoup

I setup a blog on WordPress for my high school alumni. Easy to use and a number of features but only compliant from folks was they always had to scroll down to the end to see the new posts and there was no easy way to reverse them so the newest were at the top.


10 posted on 11/29/2012 9:13:51 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Portcall24

Good to know if I set up a post section.


11 posted on 11/29/2012 9:15:24 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Chickensoup
I've found that drupal is the quickest free path to a website as any. The major ISPs have automated mechanisms to getting you started with a minimal drupal web site from which you build.

The paradigm is different - with FP, you maintain your web sources on your PC and "publish" as needed, transferring what you changed to the folders on your ISP. Drupal is very different - you manage everything directly on the web page, using the browser as your interface. It's very user friendly, and you can "distribute" the web page contributors - have your users help you build the site - since you can design your site to allow users to make comments, change pages, create pages (based on the relative privileges you assign those users).

12 posted on 11/29/2012 9:15:56 AM PST by C210N (In favor of private rights and public happiness)
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To: GeronL

so did I, but when I interviewd techies this fall,, most who wanted me to move to the Wordpress blog, which I refuse, there was one who told me that I could use the software. I worry about it being free.


13 posted on 11/29/2012 9:17:33 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Chickensoup

$3000 dollars? You need to talk to someone like me ... 3k sounds a bit much. Of course, that depends on what your site is or does. Look into Joomla or Drupal and see if they could be what you need.


14 posted on 11/29/2012 9:19:33 AM PST by softwarecreator
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To: Chickensoup; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; ...

15 posted on 11/29/2012 9:22:45 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Thank you.


16 posted on 11/29/2012 9:24:43 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Flavious_Maximus
Do not care for PHP.

PHP is okay, depending on what you need it for. Personally I prefer C#, but if the server is Linux, PHP is a very good alternative. I use PHP, PERL, C#, and VB.net about an even amount of time. Again, it depends on the server and what the client already has in place.

17 posted on 11/29/2012 9:24:57 AM PST by softwarecreator
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To: Chickensoup
I would consider Joomla!

(It's actually spelled with the exclamation point. I'm not THAT excited about it.)

And I wouldn't pay $3K for it. From what I've read, there are plenty of Joomla! developers out there who will work for cheaper than that. (Mind you, that's based on what I've read recently, not actual experience).

18 posted on 11/29/2012 9:26:04 AM PST by Washi
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To: Chickensoup

Do it.

It works great. There are a bunch of plugins that will eliminate spammers and such.

It’s very easy to use. It’s not worth it to pay $3000 for someone to set it up. You can do it yourself for free. I mean, if you want someone to spend a few hours setting it up, by all means that is probably worth something to you, but adding content is painless.

Of all the content management systems I’ve run or installed over the years, wordpress is easily the easiest to use and configure. I’ve been running my wp site off of my main website for about two years now and have had zero problems with it.


19 posted on 11/29/2012 9:27:45 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Chickensoup
I worry about it being free.

Most, if not all, open source is free. WordPress, Joomla, Drupal, PHP, MySQL, etc.

I take it you are running on a Linux server?

The software (framework) you need will depend on what your site does.

20 posted on 11/29/2012 9:28:41 AM PST by softwarecreator
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To: Chickensoup
I used WordPress for almost two years to maintain a fairly complicated website, and have one now that uses WordPress see Stunningly Health Food. WordPress is user-friendly, IMO. If your site is uncomplicated, using WordPress is very uncomplicated. If it's complicated, then using any software to build and maintain it is complicated. I do think knowing a little html does help quite a bit.

I paid a little money for something called the Weaver theme (you can google it), and found it to be well worth the money. Most of the other paid themes, not so much.

Unless this person is going to be doing a whole lot for you (i.e. unless your site is fairly complicated), 3K is a whole lot of money to make that transition.

21 posted on 11/29/2012 9:30:06 AM PST by JustaCowgirl (Revolutions are not born out of success, they are born out of despair)
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To: Chickensoup
Wordpress is fine, but I recommend using their service at wordpress.com to host it so you don't have to deal with ongoing maintenance and upgrades. I also recommend that you go ahead and go to wordpress.com yourself, create an account, and create a test blog. It is very straightforward, and I believe you could do it all yourself and save $3000.

Hosting a basic blog at wordpress.com is free, but they will show ads on your site. If you upgrade, you can get your own domain, control your own ads, get more space, etc..

If you have any questions, I'll answer tham (for free). :)

ps: In case people are confused, Wordpress is php blog software that is free an open source. It is available at wordpress.org. The company that manages development runs a commercial venture at wordpress.com, selling hosting services.

22 posted on 11/29/2012 9:35:26 AM PST by MrShoop
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To: softwarecreator
I moved from Blogger to WordPress about a year ago and have been delighted with it. It provides great flexibility, from site design (very simple with numerous free templates from which to pick) to content. WordPress hosts my site (and, of course, many others) without charge; I have never paid anything.

If my site were intended to be provide even a minimal income, I would probably have to find a host and pay for its services to have Google or other ads. However, that is not why I blog.

23 posted on 11/29/2012 9:40:28 AM PST by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: Chickensoup

I agree with all the above: WP is probably fine for any content you previously presented with FrontPage, try it first at WordPress.com, and PLEASE don’t pay anyone $3k to set it up! It’s a five minute process; half an hour if you’re completely non-technical and it’s your first time.


24 posted on 11/29/2012 9:42:23 AM PST by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: Chickensoup

I have used Front Page for many years. Like you I wanted something which would allow for easier updating.

I switched to drupal 7.

It is open-source, flexible and very easy to update.

WP shouldn’t cost you 3k to set-up.


25 posted on 11/29/2012 9:42:53 AM PST by Jemian
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To: Chickensoup

In addition to notes in my email, look at WIX instead of Wordpress. Very easy to set up yourself.


26 posted on 11/29/2012 9:48:57 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Chickensoup; Jemian
I second the Drupal recommendation. It's really gaining ground and you'd be amazed at who all are using it!
27 posted on 11/29/2012 9:55:35 AM PST by Errant
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To: Malsua

Thank you.


28 posted on 11/29/2012 9:57:12 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Malsua

Thank you.


29 posted on 11/29/2012 9:57:18 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Chickensoup

I had three sites that I created with Frontpage that were hosted by AT&T. When AT&T got out of the hosting biz, and MS pulled the plug on FP, I started over with WP hosted by Hostgator. I have since added a 4th site. My sites are informational, personal blog, and a place to publish my Christian writing. I find WP very easy and very flexible - which is exactly what I wanted since I wanted to spend more time creating and less time “building”.

As others have suggested, if you built your pages with Frontpage, you should be able to handle WP easily. You will probably kick yourself for not changing sooner like I did.


30 posted on 11/29/2012 9:58:05 AM PST by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: softwarecreator

I just emailed and asked my site folks whether they are on linix and I am waiting their reply. Would I have to install linix too in order to run the software and do the uploads? I do love my IE and Windows. Hey consider the source, me!


31 posted on 11/29/2012 9:59:30 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: MrShoop

No I have a site with good search standings and I want to keep it as an independent website. Not as a blogspot site.


32 posted on 11/29/2012 10:01:00 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: MrShoop

Bookmark for later.


33 posted on 11/29/2012 10:03:15 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: Kandy Atz

Thank you


34 posted on 11/29/2012 10:03:27 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Chickensoup

Nothing wrong with WP. Also nothing wrong with paying for the migration if you’re not interested in learning to do it yourself.

The folks here telling you to do it yourself are either professionals, or are satisfied with very simple layouts and functionality.

Drupal is a good alternative. Just get a couple of bids at least, from people who can port to multiple platforms - WP, Drupal, or Joomla.

There are awesome themes available for each. Staying up to date is also a concern, so the person who recommended having it hosted at WP is giving good advice.

I would not listen to anyone who tells you that “x” is the BEST way.

Stay agnostic in your search for a good home for your site.


35 posted on 11/29/2012 10:03:27 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: softwarecreator

They host either linux or MS.


36 posted on 11/29/2012 10:04:31 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: mnehring

Thank you

Just got a call, I need to run to work for an unexpected session.

Back this evening.

Thank you again


37 posted on 11/29/2012 10:05:29 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Chickensoup
Would I have to install linix too in order to run the software and do the uploads

No, all these things are part of the site. Once you login, and you can upload, add content, or whatever, from your windows PC using a browser. These features are built into the software. It's really easy once you get the basics down pat.

38 posted on 11/29/2012 10:07:30 AM PST by softwarecreator
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To: Chickensoup

Most of these sites will run under Linux, so that is probably the way to go. It won’t matter to you because you won’t be touching the “Linux” operating system once it is installed. Everything is done through “admin” or configuration pages built into the site ... so you do not need to do anything in Linux or know how to develop. And you can do all this right from your home PC through your browser. Whether you have Linux, Windows, or MAC does not make any difference.


39 posted on 11/29/2012 10:17:41 AM PST by softwarecreator
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To: Chickensoup

I’m a professional web designer and agree with the others. $3K for a set up that you’d have to import the content is a complete rip off. That figure is only reasonable if they are transferring all your content into a custom theme they’ve designed specifically for you.

Wordpress comes free with most hosting accounts. It is easy to install (5 minutes) and professionally designed themes are readily available for about $50 or less.

I’d recommend that you try it out yourself. Your current hosting provider may offer it, and if so, install it in a test directory and see what you think of it. You can work on it in this preview area without worrying about the public seeing it.

If you do need help with the set up, you should be able to bring someone in for a couple hours of training/set-up help. That shouldn’t cost more than a couple hundred dollars.

Hope this helps.


40 posted on 11/29/2012 10:34:57 AM PST by Say_No_2_Tyranny
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To: Say_No_2_Tyranny

Wordpress is great for websites. Easy to setup, lots of free plugin tools to add advanced functionality, great for SEO, FREE, and many other benefits. I’m a huge Wordpress fan and have multiple websites all built on the Wordpress platform.


41 posted on 11/29/2012 10:38:21 AM PST by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: Chickensoup

It depends what is being done for the $3k. A lot of people on here say that the software is free, so you shouldn’t have to pay anything to have it set up. They are not correct. I can almost guarantee you that none of them have their sites setup correctly (or get any meaningful traffic).

Also, you need to think what your goals are. What does your website do? Are you ranked anywhere for keywords that you want to preserve? Will you be preserving the link structure, or at least redirecting to the new content pages so that you don’t take a dive in the rankings when you switch?

The point is, yes you can probably get wordpress setup yourself in about 30 minutes or so, but you will not probably pick out the best combination of plugins to use with the site for your application ... (there are over 100,000 plugins)

Pick the correct link structure for your posts and pages.

Adequately secure the site from sql injection attacks, insecure plugins, form spam etc

Make the correct changes to the Wordpress code to make it SEO friendly.

Correctly implement your analytics and tracking code.

Automate your internal linking structure.

Automate and secure your RSS feeds.

Correctly limit the ip ranges that can access your site.

Correctly rewrite your robots.txt

Correctly reprogram the rel links in Wordpress to be more Google friendly. (HINT: out of the box, Wordpress can hurt your ranking because of recent changes to the way Google uses rel=next and rel=prev tags which are coded throughout wordpress.)

In short, you get what you pay for, just ask them to outline exactly what you are paying for bring it back here for a look.


42 posted on 11/29/2012 10:49:56 AM PST by willyd (Don't shoot, we're Republicans!)
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To: softwarecreator

I’m with you on C# and the Asp.Net framework. There is a free edition of Visual Studio 2012 (Express) and you can even use a version of Sql Server (compact edition) for light database work. There are many many examples and templates to do most common types of sites. 3K sounds like a lot for a transfer... .


43 posted on 11/29/2012 12:26:53 PM PST by paolop
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To: Chickensoup

I’ve been blogging for years on Blogger. It was easy to figure out and a great way to start blogging.

Now I’d like to take my blog to the next level, so I looked at WP. Very happy with it. I started a private blog there to learn how to use the software and what not, and when I feel comfortable (and after New Years when I have the time) I am going to move my blog from Blogger to WP.

I know someone who offered to do it for me but I’m self employed and can’t really afford big bucks to do it. So I’ll do it little by little.

I also noticed my local community college had a intro to blogging adult ed course, and they teach blogging on Word Press. I may also end up doing that as well if I need extra help.

Good luck with your blog!


44 posted on 11/29/2012 1:43:45 PM PST by Gefn
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To: Chickensoup

3k is way overpriced!
I have experts (personal friends) here in Central Europe who just did a pro site for a friend for about $1000 including splashy graphics, etc.
If you want, I can give you their contact and show you their work.

I build my own, as it’s very simple and flexible.

There are a lot of themes and plugins that can do all kinds of magic.

I only use Wordpress these days except for some of my older sites, but almost all have some PHP.

Oh, and two wickis... I use MediaWicki.


45 posted on 11/29/2012 2:34:13 PM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Chickensoup

You can keep your domain while using the service provided by wordpress.com - it’s only $13 a year. Trust me on this, just give it a try before you decide.


46 posted on 11/29/2012 3:18:35 PM PST by MrShoop
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To: Chickensoup

I have been considering switching to Wordpress too, but I would not pay $3000 for someone else to do it for me. I think I could do it myself in 10 or 15 hours. Wordpress is really easy to work with.


47 posted on 11/29/2012 5:45:17 PM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: willyd

Correctly reprogram the rel links in Wordpress to be more Google friendly. (HINT: out of the box, Wordpress can hurt your ranking because of recent changes to the way Google uses rel=next and rel=prev tags which are coded throughout wordpress.)

______________

Can that be modified?


48 posted on 12/03/2012 5:22:30 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Chuckster

I am bumping this thread as it helped me make the decision to make a jump from a GoDaddy site to a Wordpress-based site.

FWIW there is a pretty good podcast series by http://yourwebsiteengineer.com/ that I now listen to, and a recent podcast 110 talks about some pretty good ways to set up your own blog on wordpress.com, or how to use the wordpress.org repository software on a self-hosted site.

what’s the difference between WordPress.com and WordPress.org?

A simplified version is this: WordPress.org is an information and “grab the software” repository; WordPress.com uses the same core software, but focuses on the provision of hosting services, some basic ones for free, but with some add-ons for a fee.

More info on this is also at http://diythemes.com/thesis/rtfm/differences-wordpress-com-org/

My public service for the day.

FL


49 posted on 01/10/2013 7:48:32 AM PST by freedomlover
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