There are more red counties in Kalifornia than blue. I believe many if not most in those counties would fight against their own state. I would.
Posted on 11/29/2012 5:27:14 PM PST by djf
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Answer by Jon Davis, veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom, sergeant in the U.S. Marine Corps:
These are the accounts of the Second American Civil War, also known as the Wars of Reunification and the American Warring States Period. ... Here are the states that held the greatest strategic value from day one. They have the ability to be self-sufficient, economic strength, military strength, the will to fight, and the population to support a powerful war machine.
California Texas New York
Others that have many of the qualities that gave them an advantage are also listed.
Washington Colorado Illinois Virginia Florida Georgia
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As a native Californian I’d still put my money on Texas for sure.
It depends on what the definition of “win” means. Also “it” could play a major role. “if” could play a role except in the south where “it” would “if’n”. I would also measure the rate of pot sales.
Yes, that does make sense. That makes perfect sense.
Could California or New York turn their masses into an effective army using liberal leadership? Sure they can create mobs of people, but what happens when a bunch of Texans starts shooting at them?
Interesting fantasifical fiction to ponder.
But I would bet on a better alliance through the midwest. A swath of control in the middle of the country that includes the seaports of Texas and gulf states would make a nation completely self reliant on resources, food, manufacturing, shipping, energy and military might.
The downside would be a near indefensible border to the east and west.
Mexico.. 'Illegal inhabitants' in California and Arizona would join with Mexicans down south to overtake Southern California and parts of Arizona. Perhaps this was Eric Holder's plan when he sent thousands of assault weapons to Mexican drug cartels.
The big picture boils down to motivation.. I think Texas is best positioned, motivationally to combat ideology foreign to our Constitution. Are we outnumbered? Probably.
Blue states are more densely populated. Urban warfare could pose a challenge. Then again, most of the guns in blue states are in the hands of gangbangers and other criminals who aren’t the most disciplined. States with large populations of hunters (mostly red) would have the ultimate advantage. Bring it on!
JF'nK already tried that in Boston.
Or China.
I think Alaska too, at least on playing defense. Perhaps I was thinking more of seccesion. Heck - just secede and let the gov’t figure it out some day.
“Hey - anybody heard from Alaska lately?”
I did live there for about 3.5 years. Great state. Proud people. I have lived in 5 different states. Only TX citizens know the State History better than they know national history. You know how you can tell if a person is from Texas? They'll tell you. They are proud of their self reliance and independence.
What an interesting war-game scenario. Frightening, because Texas is the only answer, but I admit my bias.
There are more red counties in Kalifornia than blue. I believe many if not most in those counties would fight against their own state. I would.
Just as a guesstimate, my thought is that NY could barely make it across the Hudson before they started whining and getting their rumps roasted. Remember, NY’rs (not the upstate type - I am in fact a native upstater), the city flavor, are densly packed in with a constant influx of goods and materials to keep them going.
I just don’t see NY winning.
California has a problem. The same problem that doomed the Donner party. The rockies.
So cali is limited by having the greatest mobility being along the coast. The Rocky mountains are a natural defense mechanism/border that would keep Cali from going east.
So, in as much as I live in the Pacific Northwest, I would have to say my money would be on Texas.
Them boys know how to kick some butt!
I agree about this question; One of the most thought-provoking questions on FR here of late.
I have no idea who would win in a war, but if I had to return to the new USSA, I would head directly to my home red state of Tennessee, also known as the “Volunteer” state.
” the nickname the Volunteer State comes from the record number of volunteers the state provided during both the War of 1812 and the Mexican War.”
Tennessee would do the same in the war against the Obamination.
The State that Glenn Beck moved to.. Texas
NY, CA, and WA might have ports and things, but to suggest that the people that inhabit those states are even capable of fighting their way out of a wet paper bag is laughable.
Mexico is not a threat.
They don’t have the population. Or the guns.
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