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If Every U.S. State Declared War Against the Others, Which Would Win?
Slate ^ | 11/29/2012

Posted on 11/29/2012 5:27:14 PM PST by djf

This question originally appeared on Quora. It was taken from Quora's "hypothetical battles" topic, where readers "can ask questions and get answer on fighting that wouldn't likely or ever happen in real life."

Answer by Jon Davis, veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom, sergeant in the U.S. Marine Corps:

These are the accounts of the Second American Civil War, also known as the Wars of Reunification and the American Warring States Period. ... Here are the states that held the greatest strategic value from day one. They have the ability to be self-sufficient, economic strength, military strength, the will to fight, and the population to support a powerful war machine.

California Texas New York

Others that have many of the qualities that gave them an advantage are also listed.

Washington Colorado Illinois Virginia Florida Georgia

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To: djf

I think all the old Confederate states would link up again, quickly. I think we (CSA2) would have more trouble with the East Coast than the West.

Lots of the Northeast wouldn’t put up much of a fight, they’d be too busy whining about not getting their food stamps.

Most of the West Coast population would be high and munchin on Cheetos.

41 posted on 11/29/2012 5:55:34 PM PST by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: djf

“California has a problem. The same problem that doomed the Donner party. The rockies.”

That would be the Sierra Nevada, not the Rockies. OTOH, it would make California’s eastern border much easier to defend from a land invasion, at least from north of Barstow or thereabouts. Also, it has the Colorado River between itself and Arizona.

But I probably don’t have to tell anyone here how porous California’s southern border is.

42 posted on 11/29/2012 5:56:21 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Democrats are evil. Republicans are stupid.)
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To: djf

North Dakota. Fourth largest nuclear power on the planet....

43 posted on 11/29/2012 5:57:10 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: djf

Potato guns.

Unlimited ammo.

44 posted on 11/29/2012 5:57:26 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: yawningotter
Could California or New York turn their masses into an effective army using liberal leadership? Sure they can create mobs of people, but what happens when a bunch of Texans starts shooting at them?

I put my money on NY

You are thinking of just New York City

Just go 30 Miles North of the city people are just as armed as they are in Texas, the land is just as vast and rugged (The largest park in the lower 48 is not Yellowstone, Yosemite, The Grand Canyon or the Everglades, it's the Adirondack Park in NY which is bigger than all of them combined!!!)

And if somehow you did get up here, our brutal winters will take you out.

Upstate NY has no Alamo; Saratoga, Ticonderoga, French-Indian, Lake Champlain, we won them all

45 posted on 11/29/2012 5:57:52 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: djf

I wrote “Surviving Civil War II” to address what a second civil war would look like - nothing like CWI. In fact we are in it now.

46 posted on 11/29/2012 5:58:44 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (
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To: JRandomFreeper

Who cares if the power is on just as long as the wind is blowing the stink of the dead bodies away from ya’ll?

47 posted on 11/29/2012 5:59:19 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: South40

It’ll be a producers vs. takers shootout, as you indicate.

48 posted on 11/29/2012 5:59:42 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: djf

Logistics, logistics, logistics, logistics.

California would win eventually.

49 posted on 11/29/2012 6:00:48 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: snowrip

All it would take would be 10 flights per day out of McChord AFB and Washington state could take over just about everything west of the Mississippi river!

And lets not talk about Bangor... or Bremerton, where they park some serious naval assets.

If Washington was a country, it would be like the 8th largest military in the world...

50 posted on 11/29/2012 6:01:48 PM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: South40

Texas... Big State, lot of financial resources, was previously a country, lots and lots of people with guns, succession mindset is widespread in the populace, very spread out - difficult for anyone to subdue, Texas has a huge water border and borders another country - Mexico. Texas has a state sponsored militia already (no not the NG we have the National Guard also)... Bring it on !!!

51 posted on 11/29/2012 6:03:15 PM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: djf

Colorado is too stoned to care ! California, Washington and Oregon on the West coast and all the north eastern states are full of Liberals who typically want others to do the work for them.

People in Louisiana have to be rescued after a little water fills their back yard. Some but not all. Some of those good ole boys rock !

I’m thinking Texas. I would move there but the backwoods of Nebraska is still a fine place to ride this out. People looking for a handout won’t stay around here long. They freeze to death in winter.

52 posted on 11/29/2012 6:03:23 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: South40

Speaking of “ME”, I would love to see northern, Down East and western Maine push all the liberals in the southern part of the state back into Assachusetts.

53 posted on 11/29/2012 6:04:10 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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Donate here!

It’s nearly Turkey destruction time ,again.
Let’s give Jim an early CHRISTmas and finish this thing! Eh?

54 posted on 11/29/2012 6:04:21 PM PST by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

California is a really interesting place.
The way districts are drawn, the liberals control everything but that is not California.
They are very self reliant and hardy.
CA is so plush they could feed the whole world in the central valley.
Anyway, if there were wars it would be the central valley folk and coastal ranches who would pull the asses of the coast lib towns out of the fire.

55 posted on 11/29/2012 6:04:56 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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56 posted on 11/29/2012 6:06:05 PM PST by Drew68
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To: cripplecreek

I’ll meet you on the beach.

57 posted on 11/29/2012 6:06:40 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: djf

I was commenting more on the fighting spirit of the inhabitants; my guess is that the .mil folks in WA and CA would just as soon join the Conservative Union and toss all the liberals into a compound somewhere.

58 posted on 11/29/2012 6:07:23 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: GoldwaterCountry

>>Blue states are more densely populated. Urban warfare could pose a challenge. Then again, most of the guns in blue states are in the hands of gangbangers and other criminals who aren’t the most disciplined.

All of which can be turned against them. “More densely populated” = more mouths to feed. Target their infrastructure and food supplies, then sit back and watch them war with each other.

59 posted on 11/29/2012 6:10:16 PM PST by vikingd00d (chown -R us ./base)
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To: djf

I think Mexican (illegal alien) insurgency in the United States IS a problem. Mostly focused in California, Arizona and Texas.

60 posted on 11/29/2012 6:10:52 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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