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Lansing-area residents say wolf-like creature prowls neighborhood
Mlive.com ^ | November 29, 2012 | Brandon Howell

Posted on 11/29/2012 7:44:32 PM PST by cripplecreek

LANSING, MI -- There's something very, very strange in these old woods.


That's what some neighbors in the area of St. Joseph Highway and Upton Road in Delta Township say, at least.


Brad Wallen has encountered what he described as a wolf-like creature six times in the past three months, and as recently as Wednesday when it darted through his backyard. He said he's never seen anything like it before.


"I'm guessing this thing is between 65 and 80 pounds," he said. "It's not afraid of humans. It walks right out into the yard and lays down."


Wallen said the beast has made several trips onto his property. On one such occasion, Wallen was able to snap a couple pictures. Even then, the creature wasn't scared away.


"That's the thing that worries me the most -- I walked out back and it just sat there looking at me, and it's not afraid of me," Wallen said. "It psyched me out. For it not to be running or hiding, it alarmed me.


"I'm 225 pounds, and it just kind of looked at me like, 'Why don't you come a little bit closer, old man, and see how fast I can catch you?'"

(Excerpt) Read more at mlive.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: coyote; michigan; outdoor; wolf
They say coyotes and wolves don't breed but I don't know...

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1 posted on 11/29/2012 7:44:43 PM PST by cripplecreek
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To: SJackson

Looks like a slightly wolfie version of a coyote to me.


2 posted on 11/29/2012 7:47:05 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
I don't know who says that. Coyotes and wolves interbreed quite readily. The southern red wolf, eg, has virtually disappeared as a genetically pure species because of extensive population wide breeding with coyotes. The northern coyote has also gained in size due to interbreeding.

They are all genus Canis and theoretically could breed with dogs if they were so inclined.

3 posted on 11/29/2012 7:53:12 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t know who says that but they’re wrong, eastern coyotes are wolf/coyote hybrids. That said they are pretty elusive unless it’s a pet turned loose or it’s rabid.


4 posted on 11/29/2012 7:54:14 PM PST by Varda
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To: cripplecreek

The eastern coyotes are descended from the wolves that migrated down from canada eons ago. So it’s quite possible to have one that large or to have a hybrid.


5 posted on 11/29/2012 7:55:47 PM PST by gotribe
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To: cripplecreek

Wild dogs have a cat like look to them. The look in this guy’s eyes makes me think of a cat.


6 posted on 11/29/2012 7:56:03 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: cripplecreek

Gorgeous animal. Wonder if there’s a female in heat near by.


7 posted on 11/29/2012 7:56:03 PM PST by rintense
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To: hinckley buzzard

Yeah I can’t understand why the DNR told him that wolves can’t breed with coyotes. A canine is a canine is a canine.

Its like saying that whites can’t breed with asians.

I know I’ve seen some damn big prints in the woods around here south of Lansing.


8 posted on 11/29/2012 8:01:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Looks like an interesting wolfdoggie project...


9 posted on 11/29/2012 8:06:03 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: cripplecreek

It’s Lassie! Pull Timmy out of the well!


10 posted on 11/29/2012 8:10:20 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t think it unheard of for a wolf to breed with a coyote (or dog), but their heat cycles make it unlikely from what I have read. I had what I thought were coydogs around for a while. Turned out they were just huge, healthy coyotes.

This guy is really beautiful. The fact that he doesn’t seem to show any fear of humans makes me wonder if he was initially a “pet”?


11 posted on 11/29/2012 8:12:28 PM PST by berdie
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To: Mamzelle
Like this cat?

12 posted on 11/29/2012 8:14:11 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: berdie

There are a LOT of coyotes in Michigan these days. I was out with the dogs a bit ago and could hear them yipping just a few hundred yards away just outside town.


13 posted on 11/29/2012 8:15:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Lucky for the coyotes them Jack Russell’s didn’t find them!


14 posted on 11/29/2012 8:19:39 PM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: cripplecreek
I've seen wolves up here several times, they're not scruffy like the coyotes and they're bigger. They look like they're groomed, walk around like they own the place (coyotes kind of skulk), and I'm glad I've never seen more than one of them together at a time.........
15 posted on 11/29/2012 8:22:07 PM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: cripplecreek

So, from your post, it sounds like you are tracking unusually large Asians in the woods south of Lansing. Are you sure thats legal?


16 posted on 11/29/2012 8:25:20 PM PST by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: cripplecreek

Could be a Gray wolf but more than likely a Coyote in full winter coat. People can get confused on the weight because of a good coat.
The best way to tell is by the size of the tracks. Wolf 3.5” W 4.5” L Coyote 1.5” W 2.5” L

If I knew how to post photos I could show you pictures of my neighbors pet Coyote playing with a Boxer. Even being around people for 3 or 4 years it was still very skittish although I could pet it when it was in a good mood.


17 posted on 11/29/2012 8:43:06 PM PST by fudimo
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, and its Mother was so cute in the moonlight - - - - .


18 posted on 11/29/2012 8:50:32 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: cripplecreek
Looks like a Coyote, they will stare you down with the yellow eyes , Very creepy .
19 posted on 11/29/2012 9:05:49 PM PST by opentalk
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To: cripplecreek

Obviously a werewolf.


20 posted on 11/29/2012 9:11:23 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: cripplecreek

One of these ran in front of our car three weeks ago. My family had been watching him play in the field near their home. Gorgeous. Bet it’s just the winter coat. (We think he was why my sister’s cat disappeared four weeks ago. MMMMMM...cat for lunch.)


21 posted on 11/29/2012 9:30:15 PM PST by madison10 (“Obama’s fools and Stalin’s fools share the same drink of illusion.” ~~Pravda)
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To: cripplecreek

Looks like a Red Wolf or Red Wolf hybrid.


22 posted on 11/29/2012 10:15:19 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: cripplecreek; TurboZamboni
"It's not afraid of humans. It walks right out into the yard and lays down."


23 posted on 11/29/2012 10:43:57 PM PST by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: hinckley buzzard
They are all genus Canis and theoretically could breed with dogs if they were so inclined.

Coydogs are quite common and have been known to domesticate fairly well but not to the point a pure dog does.

24 posted on 11/30/2012 1:17:18 AM PST by calex59
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To: cripplecreek

That’s a coyote, and most coyotes are not very afraid of humans unless they have been hunted.


25 posted on 11/30/2012 1:18:25 AM PST by calex59
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To: When do we get liberated?
So, from your post, it sounds like you are tracking unusually large Asians in the woods south of Lansing. Are you sure thats legal?

They're a lot rarer north of Lansing so a special permit is required and you can only get it if you can prove they're a nuisance.

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26 posted on 11/30/2012 4:03:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: calex59

Coydogs are a myth that seems plausible on first glance. Various people have studied this and all the coydogs turned out to be regular wild canines or their crosses (genetic studies). Although the two species can cross, the studies concluded that the problem was that dogs and their crosses don’t provide for pups in a way that ensures survival in the wild.

Here in Pennsylvania, the first eastern coyotes were thought to be coydogs but they turned out to be wolf/coyote hybrids.

In the south,Red wolves are also hybrids. There is no evidence that they ever were anything else.


27 posted on 11/30/2012 4:23:58 AM PST by Varda
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To: cripplecreek

Looks pretty healthy. If I didn’t know better I’d say it once was somebody’s pet since it has no fear of the guy taking the picture.


28 posted on 11/30/2012 4:30:26 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Varda

Gee, that’s strange, I knew a guy who owned one of those “myths”. Coyote made one of his bitches pregnant, she had one pup that looked exactly like a coyote, was evil tempered and finally had to be put down when it was about 3 years old. Nice to know it was just a myth however.


29 posted on 11/30/2012 5:40:47 AM PST by calex59
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To: calex59

The myth is that they’re in the wild.


30 posted on 11/30/2012 2:45:15 PM PST by Varda
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To: cripplecreek

Well shoot the sumbitch and be done with it. Cripes.


31 posted on 11/30/2012 2:49:40 PM PST by jwalsh07
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