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CBC trashes homeschooling mothers as incompetent, uneducated, and sexually irresponsible
lsn ^ | 11.30.2012 | Peter Baklinski

Posted on 11/30/2012 7:11:40 AM PST by Morgana

TORONTO, November 29, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) – Homeschoolers are incensed after Anna Maria Tremonti, host of CBC’s The Current, decided to air what she called the “last word” on her show discussing homeschooling.

Following her November 14 show, a two minute skit cast homeschooling mothers as incompetent, uneducated, and sexually irresponsible.

The home-schooled teenage male—who was cast as unchallenged, resentful, rebellious, and delinquent—suggested at one point that he would rather not have been created than homeschooled.

“OK, so I’m supposed to learn geometry from a lady who never graduated college and wasn’t smart enough to use condoms?” rants the teenager in the skit.

The St. Augustine Classical Lutheran Co-op from the Kitchener-Waterloo area in Ontario slammed the show as “play[ing] to the tune the establishment likes to hear.”

“The only problem,” the group pointed out, “is [that Tremonti] described a fictional scenario quite divorced from reality. Masked in humour, her message in this segment was all the more insidious.”

In her segment prior to the skit, Tremonti interviewed Paul Faris, president of the Home School Legal Defence Association of Canada. She wanted to know why Faris’ association had supported the removal of a section of the first version of the Alberta Education Act that brought in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the Alberta Human Rights Act.

Tremonti attempted to corner Faris into saying that parents compelled the Alberta government to remove the controversial section so that they could teach their children religious teachings on homosexuality. Faris would not take the bait.

Finally, Tremonti suggested: “If you believe religiously that homosexuality is a sin, do you believe that if [homeschoolers] were teaching their child that, that [they’d] be vulnerable?”

Faris pointed out that a “broad public act” such as the Alberta Human Rights Act was not made to “apply to private life in a home,” where homeschooling parents have “private conversation[s] in their own home with their own children”.

Prior to the proposed Education Act failing it third reading due to an election call, parents across the province had expressed grave concern over section 16 of the act, which they saw as an infringement on their parental rights to raise and educate their own children as they saw fit.

Tremonti then brought Kent Hehr onto the show, Liberal MLA for Calgary Buffalo and education critic for his party. Hehr accused the Home School Legal Defence Association of Canada of being “anti-gay” and spreading “misinformation to move a political agenda.”

But Garnett Genuis, executive director of Parents For Choice in Education (PCE), told LifeSiteNews.com that it was not homeschoolers alone who were concerned about language in the original Alberta Education Act.

“A wide spectrum of stakeholders had concerns about some of the language in the original version of the education act. These included the Alberta Catholic School Trustees Association and various alternative schools and programs.”

“From our perspective, people should have a right to hold differing opinions about moral and religious questions, and to pass those opinions on to their children before those children reach adulthood,” he said.

Genuis pointed out that the revised Education Act has “support of virtually all education stakeholders” since the “government fixed and clarified the language” that threatened “many people - not just home schoolers”.

The St. Augustine Classical Lutheran Co-op criticized the CBC for not taking the “opportunity to engage in a real debate about the state of education in this country.”

“Homeschooling families, as a rule, think about education much more than the average parent, and they tend to take their responsibility of raising the next generation of thoughtful, contributing citizens very seriously,” the co-op stated. “Far from being dysfunctional as portrayed in the skit, homeschooling families are a model of normalcy. Because the parents spend a great deal more time with their children than the average, the relationship between parent and child is most often one of mutual understanding, honour, and respect.”

“The kind of conversation this segment portrayed would be unlikely to occur in a homeschooling family,” it concluded.

The group accused Tremonti of demonstrating “exactly the kind of ‘close-minded’ and ‘prejudiced’ thinking of which she believes others to be guilty.”

“Is committing this kind of logical fallacy not an embarrassment for a nationally-broadcast radio host?”

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"“OK, so I’m supposed to learn geometry from a lady who never graduated college and wasn’t smart enough to use condoms?” rants the teenager in the skit."

So the kid wants to attend public school where he still wont learn geometry (or how to read for that matter) but will learn how to use a condom from the teacher who will demonstrate it with him?

1 posted on 11/30/2012 7:11:47 AM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana
OK, so I’m supposed to learn geometry from a lady who never graduated college and wasn’t smart enough to use condoms?”

OK, so using condoms is the ultimate definition of "smart"??? Really? Apparently, this demonically inspired "Tremonti" creature thinks people are bad, and only idiots make more people.

2 posted on 11/30/2012 7:15:02 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Morgana

Sounds like typical lib logic. If the ingrate thought about it, if the parent had used a condom, the kid would not even exist. In this kids case, that might not have been a bad outcome.


3 posted on 11/30/2012 7:21:51 AM PST by ABQHispConservative (Only fake Christians vote or are Democrats.)
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To: ArrogantBustard; Morgana

Remember that the teenager is reading from a SCRIPT! These words might never have been spoken except in the skit writer fervid imagination.


4 posted on 11/30/2012 7:22:56 AM PST by Wingy (Don't blame me. I voted for the chick. I hope to do so again.)
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To: Morgana

Beam me up Scott


5 posted on 11/30/2012 7:23:28 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Morgana

“OK, so I’m supposed to learn geometry from a lady who never graduated college and wasn’t smart enough to use condoms?”

Bet you that you still eat her food and sleep under her roof with no problems, right?

And maybe she could have just exercised her “right to choose” on you if you found her stupidity so grating?


6 posted on 11/30/2012 7:25:36 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Wingy

Probably written in text-ease, I doubt he can read the written word well enough to orate.


7 posted on 11/30/2012 7:25:56 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Morgana

Kids aren’t doing much learning from an “education” degree holding bimbo or bimboy with 1000 SATs and a complete inability to understand anything beyond Dick and Jane.

Yup, those “eddicatin” degree holding folks are real providin’ the learnin’ to our kiddos, not?


8 posted on 11/30/2012 7:28:31 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Morgana
In short: "We continue to use the fags, dikes, and trannys as weapons to eradicate Western Civilization from the current culture along with free enterprise from the fiscal mercantile public arena so that economic and cultural Marxism can bring us to Utopia."

Liberty was great while it lasted I guess. Hope they are ready to die for their cause because in their prison, death will be a welcome relief to any sane individual (And I plan on taking as many as possible along the death ride with me when if the shooting eventually begins).
9 posted on 11/30/2012 7:29:59 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Morgana

Liberal humor = oxymoron.


10 posted on 11/30/2012 7:32:22 AM PST by DManA
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To: Wingy

Sounds like this skit was mental masturbation on the part of Tremonti - not based in anything real at all, but just liberal fantasies of what home-schoolers must be like. Heaven forbid they act like genuine journalists and actually take the time to listen to some homeschoolers and base their judgments on that, rather than on their pre-judgment (the definition of “prejudice”).

The irony? That kind of talk is what you get from kids who are educated by liberal morons or a system run by liberal morons - not what kids who were actually homeschooled are likely to say. And if homeschooled kids did end up saying stuff like that it would fly right into the premise that this chick is trying to make anyway: that parents want to brainwash their kids to be unthinking homophobes.

Of course, the liberals are too stupid to see that their own argument destroys their own argument. That would require an understanding of logic, and while condoms are big on priorities for these people, logic isn’t.


11 posted on 11/30/2012 7:35:25 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Wingy
Remember that the teenager is reading from a SCRIPT!

That's RIGHT! And the SCRIPT has an AUTHOR! And the AUTHOR is sending MESSAGES!

And not all those messages are the obvious ones ... leftist ideologues and propagandists are very practiced at burying their most damaging messages in the hidden or presumed premises of their arguments and assertions. "Not smart enough to use a condom" implies that using condoms is smart.

Obvious message: "Homeschooling mothers are dumb."

Hidden message: "Using condoms is a smart thing to do."

12 posted on 11/30/2012 7:36:30 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: metmom

Arth ping


13 posted on 11/30/2012 7:38:35 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Morgana

...ever heard of military school, kid?


14 posted on 11/30/2012 7:41:56 AM PST by madison10 (“Obama’s fools and Stalin’s fools share the same drink of illusion.” ~~Pravda)
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Abnsolutely no surprise from this tax payer-funded left-wing money pit.


15 posted on 11/30/2012 7:43:05 AM PST by Moose47 (Cooper's photo)
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To: Morgana

Lots of Commies in Canada.


16 posted on 11/30/2012 7:47:56 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Morgana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3IkMFeE0nE

This is the skit (Whitest Kids u Know)


17 posted on 11/30/2012 7:51:19 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: madison10

“...ever heard of military school, kid?”

Hey! I dated a dude once who graduated from this school. He was alright!

http://www.forkunion.com/


18 posted on 11/30/2012 8:10:03 AM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

They’re using public school teachers as their educational standard.


19 posted on 11/30/2012 8:20:42 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral.)
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To: Morgana
My grandchildren are home-schooled, read three-grade levels above their age-peers, know geography and are learning to read the New Testament in the original Koine Greek language. Oh, and my daughter-in-law had to go through special medical procedures in order to have our grandchildren. So I'm not REAL concerned about what a liberal Canadian says.

Oh, and our friend's son, also home-schooled, has graduated magna cum laude with an MBA from a major university. He has a real job, so he didn't have to turn to radio broadcasting to make his living, a living that likely produces eight to 10 times the income that the talky Canuck makes.
20 posted on 11/30/2012 8:23:18 AM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: righttackle44

The libs know homeschooled kids are better educated so they have to put them down. Down to the level of public school kids just to make the libs feel better.


21 posted on 11/30/2012 8:27:37 AM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

Hell with these bastards. Nothing redeeming about Canada - bunch of whiny little snots. Couldn’t defend their own damn country if ever confronted.


22 posted on 11/30/2012 8:34:39 AM PST by lesko
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To: Morgana

The key part of the word “homeschooled”, is “schooled”.

With the level of criticism from the “end-justifies-the-means” liberals it’s funny when the homeschooled makes higher scores on the SAT than many in public schools, especially the inner city schools.

I have nothing but admiration for parents who care enough to take the time to homeschool their kids, and those parents are proving that they really care for their kids and their education.

There are way too many “professional educators” with rubber stamped diplomas stumbling their way through, concentrating more on teaching the liberal agenda than the three R’s.

I wouldn’t call any one who teaches “incompetent” if the product of their efforts produced higher scores than most of the publically educated ones.

These “professionals” are union entrenched and afraid that their jobs are being somehow threatened. They see people teaching kids the basics without all of the brainwashing and the liberal agenda is being threatened.


23 posted on 11/30/2012 8:45:03 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: lesko

You’re painting with too broad a brush FRiend. As a Canadian who adores the USA, I’m of the opinion that the residents of DC “wouldn’t defend their own damn country if ever confronted” either, but that proves nothing. It’s the remnant of people who do take their patriotism seriously, and their child-rearing seriously who will make the difference in the coming years.
My wife home-schooled 2 of our kids during middle school and the amount of solid learning they received prepared them well to enter and succeed in the rather large state university they attend now.
I say, more power to those Canadian families who do homeschool, considering the amount of persecution they will continue to have to put up with because of leftism. Pray for them.


24 posted on 11/30/2012 9:07:43 AM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: Morgana

They’re just trying to prep the public for a total ban on homeschooling. The education establishment doesn’t like competition.


25 posted on 11/30/2012 9:39:57 AM PST by I want the USA back (Obama is the new Christ. We're doomed.)
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To: Morgana
The solution to this is simple. If a parent wants the responsibility of teaching their child then they should have to take a test in the basic core subjects to prove that they have the ability to do so. I'm talking english, math, science, geography, history, and physical education. We will leave the social crap out of it. I would not expect the parent of a first grader to take a test in advanced high school math but they better be able to comprehend and teach the above subjects on a grammar school level. They would need to take another test for middle school and high school when the time comes.
Do not even try to convince anyone that your ability to sit in a church an hour a week and read your bible at bible study makes you qualified to teach the required school subjects to the expected standards. I know some public school teachers with years of college who can't get the job done. Yes I would have them retake these tests as well. I'll even go one further and give you the learning standards for the next test so the potential home teachers can learn the material and prepare for the tests. If the true goal is to make sure you child has the best education possible then no teacher, home school or public, should not want to clearly establish their ability to teach all required subjects to standards.
26 posted on 11/30/2012 9:47:32 AM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: ColoCdn

You are right - sorry. Wish I had the courage to home school my child. Glad to see that home schooling was a benefit for your family.


27 posted on 11/30/2012 10:12:09 AM PST by lesko
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To: Morgana; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; adopt4Christ; Aggie Mama; ...

HOMESCHOOL PING

This ping list is for articles of interest to homeschoolers. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping List. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added or removed from either list, or both.

The keyword for the FREE REPUBLIC HOMESCHOOLERS’ FORUM is frhf.

Well, since they can no longer criticize homeschoolers for poor quality of education, they have to go after them for something.

This goes to show how little they really have in opposition to homeschooling and its phenomenal success.

28 posted on 11/30/2012 10:12:22 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Morgana; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; adopt4Christ; Aggie Mama; ...

HOMESCHOOL PING

This ping list is for articles of interest to homeschoolers. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping List. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added or removed from either list, or both.

The keyword for the FREE REPUBLIC HOMESCHOOLERS’ FORUM is frhf.

Well, since they can no longer criticize homeschoolers for poor quality of education, they have to go after them for something.

This goes to show how little they really have in opposition to homeschooling and its phenomenal success.

29 posted on 11/30/2012 10:13:19 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Morgana; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; adopt4Christ; Aggie Mama; ...

And we’re supposed to take seriously someone who writes a *skit* that doesn’t even know that WOMEN don’t use the condom?


30 posted on 11/30/2012 10:14:35 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: oldenuff2no; Morgana
The solution to this is simple. If a parent wants the responsibility of teaching their child then they should have to take a test in the basic core subjects to prove that they have the ability to do so. I'm talking english, math, science, geography, history, and physical education.

The solution to public education's problem is simple.

If a parent teacher wants the responsibility of teaching their child then they should have to take a test in the basic core subjects to prove that they have the ability to do so. I'm talking english [sic], math, science, geography, history, and physical education.

In Buffalo, NY every few years they give the teachers a competency test to see if the teachers have enough of a mastery of the subject material to graduate from the high school they teach.

Without fail, many teachers fail. The resultant screams of *Racism* would be funny if it weren't so sad.

They don't deny that the teachers failed, that they could not graduate from high school THEMSELVES. Nope, they make it a race issue.

To pretend that teachers actually have a mastery of the subject is ludicrous.

Do not even try to convince anyone that your ability to sit in a church an hour a week and read your bible at bible study makes you qualified to teach the required school subjects to the expected standards.

Issues with Christians, eh? That shows through loud and clear.

You just disqualified yourself from being taken seriously on the issue because you just demonstrated your absolutely abysmal ignorance about homeschooling and homeschoolers.

31 posted on 11/30/2012 10:27:18 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: oldenuff2no
If the true goal is to make sure you child has the best education possible then no teacher, home school or public, should not want to clearly establish their ability to teach all required subjects to standards.

Socialist.....

All you need to know to teach someone something, is to know more than them. Since virtually all parents have graduated at least high school, they are qualified to teach to AT LEAST 8th grade.

What you fail to recognize is that most homeschool parents have college educations. And that having a teaching degree does not qualify someone to teach, as is evidenced by the horror stories we hear constantly about teachers.

In addition, you fail to recognize that a one on one education is far superior to a classroom setting and you don't allow for the fact that they parents can learn along with the kids if necessary.

Not to mention that by the time homeschool kids are in high school, they are self-teaching at that point. They have learned to teach themselves and are motivated to do some, something precious few public school kids ever master.

32 posted on 11/30/2012 10:33:01 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Morgana
There is a young girl who is a sophomore in high school that works part time for a Chinese guy in his little take out restaurant. Polite as all get out, also takes care of pets and works part time in a daycare center. When I asked her how she's doing in school, she told me that she is home schooled but is way ahead of her grade's requirements.......

But you can tell by the way she talks to the customers that she's being taught proper at home......I always manage to leave her a nice tip

I once told her that she obviously has a desire to work and that she should take some classes in finance and investing....she said she'd love to if she could.

33 posted on 11/30/2012 10:37:06 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: ArrogantBustard
"OK, so I’m supposed to learn geometry from a lady who never graduated college and wasn’t smart enough to use condoms?”

My daughter home-schools her four. They will do fine learning various branches of mathematics from a lady who scored a 5 in AP Calculus.

34 posted on 11/30/2012 10:46:25 AM PST by jimfree (In November 2016 my 12 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Morgana

Lets put that teenager up against the average homeschooler in a test of academics, logic, physical skill, any category.


35 posted on 11/30/2012 10:47:28 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: oldenuff2no
The solution to this is simple.

Yes, it is. It is a matter of recognizing legitimate authority.

Parents have the primary responsibility and authority to determine where, when, how, and what their children shall be taught. The State does not have any such legitimate authority, and certainly the self-appointed masterminds in the professional education establishment do not.

It is long past time for separation of school and state; education is far too important to let government bureaucrats and union members screw it up.

36 posted on 11/30/2012 10:59:12 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: oldenuff2no
I am opposed to any government involvement. I may be obstinate redneck conspiracy nut or whatever. The answer is NEVER more government regulation. Your message makes my stomach turn.
37 posted on 11/30/2012 11:16:04 AM PST by st.eqed
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To: metmom; oldenuff2no; WVNan

I have been told that in the state of West Virginia one has to at least have a college degree in anything to be able to homeschool. I do not know if this is true. Others have told me one can homeschool up to the grade one completed. Ie if you completed up to the 10th grade then you may homeschool your child to that level.

Nan do you know?


38 posted on 11/30/2012 11:50:27 AM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: metmom; oldenuff2no; WVNan

Either way I know homeschooled kids at Wal Mart. They don’t act like a bunch of nimrods in the check out line.


39 posted on 11/30/2012 11:52:40 AM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: oldenuff2no; st.eqed; ArrogantBustard; madison10

“Do not even try to convince anyone that your ability to sit in a church an hour a week and read your bible at bible study makes you qualified to teach the required school subjects to the expected standards.”

It would just so happen that I have seen a situation as you described. Yes they failed at trying to teach and had to quit. I will agree the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I will agree their best bet would have been to send their child to a private Christian school that had certified teachers. Due to the situation however this was not an option. Looking back now I think the best bet would have been what madison10 suggested and that is send the boys to military school.

st. eged thing about the Bible is, our schools were set up to teach the it in the early days. Now it is banned and the schools are not even teaching them to read much less read the Bible.


40 posted on 11/30/2012 12:02:57 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana
"put them down"

As has happened quite frequently, a few years ago a home-schooled student won the National Spelling Bee. This time it was a girl from Wisconsin. So a reporter from one of the state's rags decided to ask some clown with the state public school association how he felt about her winning. The jerk was contemptuous and dismissive of her feat and said it didn't amount to anything. If I had the power, I would fired that major-league idiot on the spot. You can be sure if she had been a public-school student, the guy would have been singing her praises as a great example of what the public school system produces.

41 posted on 11/30/2012 12:40:15 PM PST by driftless2
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To: Morgana

My wife is a teacher and our son goes to a private catholic high school. I see the teachers side, have made my decision as a parent, and also listen to my wife who often ends up with home school failures. This is a complicated question but whom ever teaches these kids has to be able to do the job. If they have to learn the material themselves to get it done so be it. Learn it and teach it. They can not effectively teach what they don’t know and you can not sit down and learn all of this at the same time you are trying to teach it.
We need to keep the goal of well educated children first. Social/religious aspects of their growth should be left to the parents. We need some new answers.


42 posted on 11/30/2012 3:04:15 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: metmom
Socialist.

OK please read what I am typing.
My wife is a teacher. She primarily deals with special needs children and the children who are far behind grade level so we have a birds eye view of what is real, true, and factual. The children who are far behind are most often the result of home schooling failures. They are mandated back into the public schools and written off the books on the home schooling organization as if they never existed. What a way to keep a good average.... Most of the parents who teach their kids at home are not college educated. That is a myth.
What you say about high school kids teaching themselves has some truth to it but you have ignored the fact that many of them take a lot of adult supervision to keep them on track. They lack the self discipline to work independently. This is not the fault of the teachers it is the fault of the parents for not teaching them to sit down, shut up, respect others, and pay attention to the teachers. If they can not or will not teach their children these things makes you think they can teach high school math or science?
We are very connected to the UC Calif college system. I don't mean to break your bubble but the kids who do the best in college are not the home schooled kids. The Asian kids who go through the public schools you are putting down far out score and out perform all the rest. What does this indicate? The Asian kids have far more structure, supervision, and much better goals established than their peers. So it is all about parenting not so much about the teachers. There is value in home schooling if the person doing the teaching is qualified and able to teach. There are a lot of teachers out there who have the education but are really crappy teachers. The goal has to remain that our kids get a good education. When you stray from that goal to support your religious beliefs or ego you are making a huge mistake and it is the children who will pay the price. All parents should be able to teach their kids a belief system but few of them can teach chemistry or trig.

43 posted on 11/30/2012 3:30:43 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: driftless2

The jerk was contemptuous and dismissive of her feat and said it didn’t amount to anything.

What a moron. Again the most important issue here was over looked by both sides. Wherever she was educated it worked well. Her education and knowledge is the important thing and should be to all involved.
I would have fired him on the spot if he worked for me.


44 posted on 11/30/2012 3:34:35 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: metmom

If a parent teacher wants the responsibility of teaching their child then they should have to take a test in the basic core subjects.

It this state they do. It is the CBEST test and they must pass it before they can even be a substitute teacher.

Issues with Christians, eh?

Not at all but just because someone can quote the bible chapter and verse does not indicate in any way that they can teach chemistry or trig. Can you really argue with that. We can both take these tests to find out the truth. I’ll even take a test on bible knowledge with you. You just might get a big surprise.


45 posted on 11/30/2012 3:41:40 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: oldenuff2no

“They would need to take another test for middle school and high school when the time comes.”

Who develops and administers these tests? The same people that I won’t let teach my children?


46 posted on 11/30/2012 3:46:16 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: oldenuff2no

“If a parent teacher wants the responsibility of teaching their child then they should have to take a test in the basic core subjects.”

So, should they be required to take a test to even become parents? Parents are teaching their children every day - you want the government to regulate who can and can’t have children?


47 posted on 11/30/2012 3:50:58 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: oldenuff2no

Some school districts have a 40% attrition rate, 40% of the kids do not even graduate.

So what do we do about the public school failures?

Are they mandated to be homeschooled?

What makes you think that most of homeschool parents are not college educated? Got stats for that somewhere?

Because that sure isn’t what I’ve seen in my 12 years of homeschooling with involvement with three different homeschool support groups.


48 posted on 11/30/2012 4:00:01 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: oldenuff2no
If a parent wants the responsibility of teaching their child then they should have to take a test in the basic core subjects to prove that they have the ability to do so.

Why? Teachers aren't held to that standard.

I was watching "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire" once and they had a braindead "teacher" who was asked what the largest percentage element was in our "atmosphere". He used a life line to call his friend, a SCIENCE teacher at his school. They both agreed it was Oxygen! WRONG!

Don't preach how f'ing smart "teachers" are.

49 posted on 11/30/2012 4:03:23 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: oldenuff2no

Liar. You don’t even use proper grammar or understand the usage of paragraphs.


50 posted on 11/30/2012 4:05:51 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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