Guest Post: THE UN-THOUGHT OF

Mordern Survival .com ^ | 11/30/12 | D.

[Kartographer]

Over the last year or so I have written a number of “reports” for our small group that have guided food and water purchase and storage, meds, weapons and ammo, finances, communication, etc. In each of these I have usually tried to look ahead, seeing both the disaster period, survival and then the recovery, if we are skilled and lucky enough to get to that shore. If you manage to survive but are not prepared for the long term recovery what are you going to do, wait for FEMA?

Some of the un-thought of items and ideas that I have addressed:

Water Meds Batteries Tools Materials Fluids

[greeneyes]

Would you please consider sharing that family recipe?

[RikaStrom]

Oh, absolutely!! I am sorry for not doing so when I first posted. I was focused on the containers. I'm pretty sure that many families have a similar recipe, especially those that came through the depression.

You just have to shake it up periodically on the shelves, and it's good to go.

Cream Soup Base - makes 4 to 6 cups as currently written

Base:
1 cup non fat dried milk powder
1 Tbls dried onion flakes
2 Tbls corn starch
2 Tbls chicken bouillon granules
1/2 tsp dried basil
1/2 tsp dried thyme
1/4 tsp black pepper

Mix all ingredients and store in an airtight container.

Main ingredients:
For a soup base, add 2 cups cold water and heat over medium heat. Stir constantly until soup thickens.

Anything you want making up to 4-6 cups including the base.

[Kartographer]

5-6 gallon food grade buckets come with very tight lids with ‘o’ rings.

The bags are good, but will eventually alow air in. I have also had a few come usealed. I’ve never hame a canning jar fail to seal and stay sealed.

[Sarajevo]

What are the foxfire books?

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Foxfire-Book-List/lm/R2QLIXHWUXZ6QT

[Sarajevo]

Tomatoes here need to be started indoors by Christmas.

My hydroponics tomatoes just started producing after sitting dormant all summer.

[greeneyes]

Thanks very much.

[greeneyes]

I have a question from one of the other threads. We were talking about using a can, toilet paper, and alchol to create a little stove.

So I had pored a little alcohol into a plastic container to sanitize a thermometer holder, and had some left over, so I made a really small one with some toilet paper and left over alcohol.

It worked great. Hubby came home and asked me why do you put toilet paper in it, since the alcohol will burn anyway. I just said, I have no idea. So does any one know the answer?

[gundog]

Long story short...we’re getting cookies?

[bgill]

Thanks, will do.

[bgill]

Thanks to Sarajevo for posting a link for the Foxfire books. They’re great for old time how to and lore. If nothing drastic happens, they’re fun to read. There are about a dozen volumes.

Another good book/s is/are the Tightwad Gazette by Amy Dacyczyn. Hers are directed more to frugal living but has basic recipes like Rika’s above posted soup base. FYI, the yogurt recipe, though not for hit the fan days, is foolproof.

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Tightwad-Gazette-Amy-Dacyczyn/dp/0375752250/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1354323309&sr=1-1&keywords=tightwad+gazette

[JRandomFreeper]

Scales. It's important sometimes to be able to weigh something. I've got my digital kitchen scales that go up to 2 kg, and for me, that will handle most things.

/johnny

[Iron Munro]

Stanley Thermos Lifetime Warranty

Do you know that Stanley and Aladdin stainless steel thermos bottles have a lifetime warranty. Older bottles were marketed under the Aladdin brand name. Newer bottles are branded Stanley.

If a Stanley or Aladdin thermos fails to keep the contents hot or cold Stanley will replace it at no charge.

You simply call the company and they will ask for the information stamped on the bottom of the thermos, ask a few questions about possible damage (voids the warranty) and to make sure you are using it correctly (that you pre-heat or pre-cool it).
No proof of purchase is required and you do not have to send the old one in as proof it is bad.

Of course they do not warranty just the plastic stopper so if that is the only problem you will have to replace it yourself.

The bottles generally run about $30 to $50 so it is worth the time to call for a replacement.

After at least 25 years I had an old one quart Aladdin thermos go bad a few years ago.
I finally got around to calling the company about a year ago and a new one arrived in about 10 days.
The one they sent lists for $35 and sells for $30 on Amazon.

Recently I just had a very old 2 quart with a handle go bad, called the company and a new one is on the way.
This one lists for $50 on the Stanley site and sells for $34 on Amazon.

Here is the site and contact info:

http://www.stanley-pmi.com/about-us/contact-us

Consumer Inquiries and Warranty Support
Toll free: 1-800-251-4535
Monday – Friday (closed on public holidays)
7am – 5pm PST
Email: info@stanley-pmi.com

[TexasTransplant]

Low cost and no electronics required Security...

It may not work for everyone, I just hung 3 mirrors... 2 in my living room, when I walk in to the living room now I can see both sides of my front door (I have a big window in the living room), I don’t need to look through the peep hole. I put another mirror in the kids room that lets me see through their window another angle of the front door... all from a distance.

Of course the shades need to be open for this to work

TT

[TexasTransplant]

I also just went through all of my canned goods to check expiration’s and condition... found some with dents, some with rust and a couple of bulged cans ... moved them to where they needed to be and made a list of what I need to replace.

Long Term Water is my biggest concern ... I have a well on site but a broke pump and now it is just a $ problem... I want both a manual pump and the electric pump ... what I want and what I end up with may be a tad different.

TT

[TexasTransplant]

Almost to where you are at ... if I could just find the time to go through 100 rounds per day and still have time to clean my Arms.

TT

[TexasTransplant]

*****” I find myself going through last year’s seed catalogs over and over for no reason at all.”*****

I’m doing the same thing... but with Chickens

;^)

TT

[TexasTransplant]

Just got my Dehydrator and my adapter for my “Seal a Meal”

I was wanting to make packs of meals where I just add water, cook and eat.

My first batch of dehydrating is going to be Onions and Celery then I will see what is on sale...

Anyone dehydrated Squash?

TT

Wish I could dehydrate beer ... sure gonna miss it

[WhirlwindAttack]

bump

[Kartographer]

Put more alcohol in it and use it again and again and......

[greeneyes]

Well, the toilet paper was all burned up, but he could smell the burnt paper odor.

So my question is, do you have to put the toilet paper in the can, or can you just pour some alcohol in the can and light it up?

Another issue - I am so excited! I found the sterno stove on Amazon for just under 10 bucks. Years ago(1975 IIRC) we bought a collapsible sterno stove which we used when backpacking. Some where along the line it got misplaced and Walmart never seemed to have any more.

I always keep a stack of sterno packs around in case of power failure and coffee withdrawal/craving. So I had rigged up a gizmo to use. It was a little unstable, but now that I am looking at bug out and get home bags, I wanted to get some more.

These little stoves are the greatest. Fold up into a very little package and will slip right into your backpack. Gives a very stable small cooking base that works great on the trail(and that coffee can will fit just fine). You can use lots of differnet fuel besides sterno, even charcoal, thought it will tarnish the finish.

So glad to see they still make them and the cost is so reasonable. I’ll be adding these to the kids auto kits as well as getting mine for the auto and in home.