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'The Hobbit' premiere: Peter Jackson's fantasy epic is eye-popping (FIRST REVIEW)
New York Daily News ^ | Thursday, November 29, 2012, 7:47 PM | Ethan Sacks

Posted on 12/02/2012 10:56:54 AM PST by Eurotwit

WELLINGTON, New Zealand -- There’s only one real wizard in Middle Earth - and it’s director Peter Jackson.

The auteur from Down Under unveiled “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey” - the first installment of his prequel trilogy to his “Lord of the Rings” series - in his native New Zealand Wednesday.

It was an eye-popping night, from the celebrity-filled red carpet to, more important, the action on screen.

Based on J.R.R. Tolkien’s 1937 children’s tale which set the stage for the author’s much darker and heavier later books, Jackson’s “The Hobbit” harkens back to a more innocent time when men were men and gold-hoarding dragons were the biggest evils plaguing the land.

Martin Freeman stars as the titular reluctant hero, who’s tricked by the wizard Gandalf (Ian McKellen) into accompanying 13 dwarves — led by Thorin (a square-jawed Richard Armitage) — on a quest to reclaim their ancient homeland from the worst of those dragons.

The movie offers technological wizardry, thanks to a 48 frames-per-second format, twice the industry standard. Critics who saw a trailer earlier this year were unimpressed, but after a minute or two of adjusting, the higher resolution is eye-popping, similar to discovering HD television for the first time.

Gollum, voiced by Andy Serkis, makes a cameo in Peter Jackson's 'The Hobbit.'

Alas, the higher resolution has one downside: it really makes you wince when you see the obscenely corpulent Goblin King in such crystal clarity.

Lighter and funnier than its “Lord of the Rings” predecessors, “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey” remains faithful to the fantasy world last seen in the 2003 Academy Award-winning “The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King.”

The connections abound through the two-hour-forty-minute epic, including important cameos from Andy Serkis’ Gollum and Elijah Wood’s Frodo.

The result runs rings around most special-effects driven blockbusters.

The movie opens Dec. 14 on this side of the Pacific.


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KEYWORDS: hobbit; hollywood; moviereview; thehobbit; tolkien
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Seems like mr. Sacks is the only one to break the review embargo so far.
1 posted on 12/02/2012 10:57:05 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: All

New clip of Gandalf giving Sting to Bilbo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XMkb1gp6KsQ

Enjoy :)


2 posted on 12/02/2012 10:57:59 AM PST by Eurotwit ("Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.")
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To: Eurotwit; Tax-chick; Monkey Face

ping


3 posted on 12/02/2012 11:02:04 AM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: Eurotwit

Looks sucky.


4 posted on 12/02/2012 11:06:32 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Eurotwit

Peter Jackson did such an amazing job with LotR, I was floored at how silly and pathetic his King Kong was. I guess he needs to stay in the Tolkien world.


5 posted on 12/02/2012 11:06:38 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Eurotwit
A little song about a little person.

Mr Baggins 3:28

6 posted on 12/02/2012 11:07:52 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Eurotwit

Quite a few years ago, I bought the cartoon version of “The Hobbit” on what was called a CD back then. It was actually a really big record which was totally enclosed by it’s plastic container until you inserted it into the player.

The player actually worked by a needle just like a vinyl LP record album. The quality was no where near the modern Btu-ray or even a video tape but was still good enough to watch.

The cartoon version was actually very good. My little daughter really liked sting. I had a Gerber Mark II knife and she would call it “sting”. It did actually look a bit like that small sword.

The music was pretty good too. It will be interesting to watch the new movie.


7 posted on 12/02/2012 11:08:35 AM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Here is another one for you -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGF5ROpjRAU


8 posted on 12/02/2012 11:13:47 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Eurotwit
I read the Hobbit in 1967, I think, getting old, when I grabbed a book from a Red Cross care package in Viet Nam, hooked.

I introduced the book to my coworkers at a power plant in 1969 most were enthauled, we even had a coworker who is still known as Frodo, 43 years later.

I hope they haven't screwed this up as they did the Lord of The Rings.

9 posted on 12/02/2012 11:14:15 AM PST by Little Bill (A)
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To: Eurotwit
I read the Hobbit in 1967, I think, getting old, when I grabbed a book from a Red Cross care package in Viet Nam, hooked.

I introduced the book to my coworkers at a power plant in 1969 most were enthauled, we even had a coworker who is still known as Frodo, 43 years later.

I hope they haven't screwed this up as they did the Lord of The Rings.

10 posted on 12/02/2012 11:14:27 AM PST by Little Bill (A)
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To: rawcatslyentist

I have a dial-up connection so can’t download the video.

Have you seen Mr. Spock singing “Bilbo Baggins” If you do, your first impression will likely be “What was he thinking?”.

It is so bad that it is good.


11 posted on 12/02/2012 11:16:00 AM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Eurotwit
Just re-read the Book
First read ~1970
In “preparation” fro the Movie

For hoot, read Bored of the Rings
by Harvard Lampoon!

http://www.amazon.com/Bored-Rings-Parody-Tolkiens-Lord/dp/0451452615

12 posted on 12/02/2012 11:21:15 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: yarddog

“Quite a few years ago, I bought the cartoon version of “The Hobbit” on what was called a CD back then. It was actually a really big record which was totally enclosed by it’s plastic container until you inserted it into the player.”

LOL. Our ages are showing. I remember the short-lived video discs well.


13 posted on 12/02/2012 11:21:53 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: FerociousRabbit

I still have a player and maybe a dozen of the discs. Around 5 years ago I tried to play one and the rubber drive belt had turned to goo.

I replaced it with a rubber band and to my surprise, it worked. I am sure if I get it out again, it will need another belt.


14 posted on 12/02/2012 11:26:26 AM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: HangnJudge

I read that back when I was in middle school.

Can still remember picturing the “elven goodies” back then...


15 posted on 12/02/2012 11:28:09 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I was going to do a countdown...something like "Here comes the nagging naysayers of negativity in 3...2...1..." OR " Here comes Debby downer in....5...4...3...2..."

But you beat me to it. Welcome to the thread. I'm sure there will be plenty glass half-empty/down on life types to follow you. Seems like there always are. Always seems like there is someone who wants to let everyone else know they think something sucks. So far...you are it. :-)

16 posted on 12/02/2012 11:28:31 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: yarddog
The Spock tune was funky, bebop hoppin synth bass. I remember it from way back, 69 or 70.

Do you have firefox and download helper? The music and vid files are a lot smaller today than 20 years ago. Maybe 4-5 mb. on dial up 30-45 mins tops.

17 posted on 12/02/2012 11:31:06 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: NELSON111

When you are slow, you blow. ;)


18 posted on 12/02/2012 11:36:06 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Yeah...I could see how one can make that judgment from a 50 second clip in a 3 hour movie...LOL


19 posted on 12/02/2012 11:39:37 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: Eurotwit

The first part of the prequel TRILOGY?

I had been under the impression that The Hobbit was only being broken up into two parts. I am still deciding if I am happy to have three more movies in Middle Earth, or if I am wondering how that little story can get stretched so far.


20 posted on 12/02/2012 11:42:22 AM PST by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: Little Bill
I hope they haven't screwed this up as they did the Lord of The Rings.

Having read the LOTR probably six times over the last 35 years...I thought the movies were very well done

I think Jackson did a outstanding job taking the book form into a movie format

Granted he left many important details out of the movies, but you are talking probably six movies to put everything in...

My biggest beef was he left out the the most important moral aspect of the story..

"The Scouring of the Shire"

21 posted on 12/02/2012 11:43:36 AM PST by Popman
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To: NELSON111
LOL. You'll really hate the Daily News now...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2241758/Hobbit-film-wizardy-left-feeling-sick--Cinema-goers-complain-camera-speeds-3D-effects-caused-headaches-queasiness.html

Cinema-goers have complained of feeling sick and dizzy after watching early screenings of The Hobbit. Peter Jackson's eagerly awaited new film is the first to be shot using high-speed 3D cameras that capture twice the normal number of frames per second. But some viewers said the filming techniques made them feel nauseous and even caused migraines. etc.

22 posted on 12/02/2012 11:43:45 AM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: NELSON111

Sorry I insulted your religion. LoL!


23 posted on 12/02/2012 11:44:18 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: null and void

YES!!!!!THANKS NULLY!!! *HUG*


24 posted on 12/02/2012 11:46:42 AM PST by Monkey Face (It's not easy taking problems one at a time when they refuse to get in line.)
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To: Lancey Howard

King Kong is a great movie if you watch the movie within the movie, or Adventure on Skull Island as I like to call it;-)


25 posted on 12/02/2012 11:46:55 AM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: Chipper

I love sci fi and fantasy epics and special effects, and have no problem making leaps of faith and “suspending disbelief”. But when I saw the girl getting flung around the jungle like a freaking toy rag doll only to emerge unscathed, and when I watched a pack of people running and talking as a herd of mammoth dinosaurs stampeded over their heads, it was all I could stand. My son looked at me and said, “I think I have homework.” I turned the movie off.


26 posted on 12/02/2012 11:53:24 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: FerociousRabbit
“Quite a few years ago, I bought the cartoon version of “The Hobbit” on what was called a CD back then. It was actually a really big record which was totally enclosed by it’s plastic container until you inserted it into the player.”

LOL. Our ages are showing. I remember the short-lived video discs well.


???
Played using a needle? I am not familiar with such a CD.

Video Compact Disc format is still around, and remains a very common format in the far east. I have gazillions of Asian movies and tv series on VCDs, which play in nearly all standalone DVD players and computers, no needle required.
27 posted on 12/02/2012 11:58:06 AM PST by Nepeta
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To: Lancey Howard
I also love the end of King Kong when he falls off the empire state building and hits the ground...still in one piece, no blood, no splatter, and the pavement is unbroken...

Sort of like he just fell over from a standing position..

I'm sure if I fell 1,454 feet to the ground...I would be basically a big red spot...

28 posted on 12/02/2012 12:01:12 PM PST by Popman
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To: Little Bill

Peter Jackson did an excellent job on LOTR. Anything that wasn’t included either would have distracted from the main storyline or would have left most movie goer confused.


29 posted on 12/02/2012 12:01:22 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Explorer89

I’ve never read Tolkian but liked the movies until the end of Return of the King or some such. What did it have, 25 endings?


30 posted on 12/02/2012 12:08:02 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Eurotwit

bookmark


31 posted on 12/02/2012 12:13:57 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Popman
I enjoyed Jackson's LOTR trilogy. Very hard book to film, and he did a pretty admirable job. Sure, I missed Tom Bombadil, but I can see what that character was left out. I wasn't thrilled by Arwen's expanded role, but I could see why that decision was made. There were certain scenes that I thought might have been done better, but isn't that true of any movie?

No, I don't really feel I have grounds for complaining about Jackson's LOTR. But if I were to say one thing -- I would say that the character of Aragorn was too conflicted, too unsure of himself, and not nearly committed enough to Arwen. The whole point of the story of Aragorn and Arwen -- and the story of Beren and Luthien -- is that real love allows mortal men to achieve greatness beyond anything that might be reasonably expected of them. I think Jackson felt compelled to show "character growth and evolution" of Aragorn across 3 movies, and I think that this was regrettable.

32 posted on 12/02/2012 12:17:31 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: yarddog

Lol.. I still have the VHS of that cartoon/movie..


33 posted on 12/02/2012 12:18:52 PM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: Jonty30; Popman
He broke the continuity of the story, each part makes the whole, they are all relevant.
34 posted on 12/02/2012 12:19:53 PM PST by Little Bill (A)
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To: Popman
My biggest beef was he left out the
the most important moral aspect of the story..

“The Scouring of the Shire”

Or the Tom Bombadil / Withywindle / Goldberry sequence

But I guess, it just didn't fit.

The LOTR movie was a rare instance where, to some degree, the Movie was better done than the Book
Tolkien really didn't do female characters well
The Movie fixed this without doing violence to the books

35 posted on 12/02/2012 12:23:09 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Eurotwit

Can’t believe they broke “The Hobbit” into three parts.


36 posted on 12/02/2012 12:28:45 PM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Nepeta
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37 posted on 12/02/2012 12:43:12 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: HangnJudge; null and void

I first read the books in 1970 as well. They came in a four-book boxed set and I had to get them at an office supply store, since they were “underground.”

I’ve read them on average of once every 14-17 months since then, and I’m reading them again. I just finished The Hobbit, and have started on The Fellowship.

:o])


38 posted on 12/02/2012 12:47:21 PM PST by Monkey Face (It's not easy taking problems one at a time when they refuse to get in line.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Gee. Don’t be shy. Tell us what you really think. And remember: No one is forcing you to see the movie(e), read the book(s) or take part in the discussion of same.

Kinda like voting: If you didn’t vote, don’t complain.


39 posted on 12/02/2012 12:53:21 PM PST by Monkey Face (It's not easy taking problems one at a time when they refuse to get in line.)
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To: Explorer89

They need to go back and do the last half of the third movie. They cut half of the last book out entirely.


40 posted on 12/02/2012 12:59:58 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Little Bill

I agree. They are all relevant in the books. Not all information relevant in the books would work well on film. They are two different mediums.

However, for example, the Ring was supposed to have an unyielding temptation to whomever holds it. Tom Bombadil was able to play with that ring and it had no effect on him. How could it be explained, so the movie goer could understand that Tom was another force of nature, which is why the Ring had no effect on him?

Probably the only storyline missing that could have been told in a way that movie goers would understand was the scouring of the Shire. This could have been told in small ways, across the three movies, until their was a big buildup towards the end.

But that is really the only story line that could have been worked into the film, I think.


41 posted on 12/02/2012 1:06:12 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: yarddog

Wow, that brings back memories! RCA SelectaVision video discs, or CEDs as they were called, had great technical promise. Unfortuneately, RCA’s market timing was poor - delays caused them to go head-to-head with Laser Disks, which had the “wow” factor of being read by an ultra-cool device, a laser (OMG!!), as well as video tape, which offered home recording along with playback, and had a small but rapidly growing infrastructure of video tape rental businesses. CEDs just couldn’t compete.


42 posted on 12/02/2012 1:14:00 PM PST by TrueKnightGalahad
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To: yarddog
Everything CED! Probably anything you ever wanted to know about this format:

http://www.cedmagic.com/home/cedfaq.html
43 posted on 12/02/2012 1:14:06 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: FrdmLvr
Can’t believe they broke “The Hobbit” into three parts.
Based on the run time for the first movie of 166 minutes,if they hadn't, the complete Hobbit movie would have run for about 8 hours and 18 minutes. Tha tis a very long time to be sitting in a theater.
44 posted on 12/02/2012 1:18:04 PM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: jmcenanly

When they released the Return of the King, my theatre offered tickets to see all three movies, in the extended version, for $50.

Thirteen hours and many minutes, with just a few minutes breaks between each movie so you could reload up with pop and popcorn.


45 posted on 12/02/2012 1:21:26 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Little Bill

They only screwed up a few things. One was the way they got their swords. The second was Tom Bombadil. The third was Arwen rescuing Frodo instead of Glorfindel. The fourth was the reforging of Aragorn’s sword. Other than that they were fairly true to the story.


46 posted on 12/02/2012 1:38:22 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Explorer89

They added a third one because they didn’t want to take anything out and they added Gandalf’s encounter with the with of Angmar in Mirkwood.


47 posted on 12/02/2012 1:39:39 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Explorer89

My main complaint with LOTR was that entirely too much was cut out in the understandable interest of fitting it into three movies, one for each volume. A much lighter and less thought provoking Hobbit still has enough complexity to fill two or three episodes. JMO


48 posted on 12/02/2012 1:39:48 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: ClearCase_guy

Quite agree with you about Aragorn’s character.

By the time of LOTR, he was 87 years old, he’d been in love with Arwen since he was 20, and engaged to her since he was 49. He’d been consciously working to gain the thrones of Arnor and Gondor for at minimum 38 years.

He might have gone thru the crises of confidence shown in the films, but certainly would have worked them thru long before the time shown by the movies.

In PJ’s partial defense, he may have been trying to show the arc of Aragorn’s life story compressed into the few months of the story.

A bigger personal pet peeve is the distortion of Faramir’s character. He was the sole Man (or indeed Elf or Hobbit) in the story shown as immune to the lure of the Ring, presumably because he was devoid of the lust for domination of others that the Ring keyed in on.

The Faramir of the book was a completely admirable character, the Faramir of the movie not so much. And I cannot see why this distortion was necessary to the story.


49 posted on 12/02/2012 1:43:04 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: ClearCase_guy

Oh, and don’t get me started on The Dead.

Since he had this unbeatable, indeed unfightable, army it turned the Battle of the Pelennor into a one-sided massacre rather than a hard-won victory by (mostly) Men fighting in defense of their countries and homes. In the books all The Dead really accomplished was to gain him control of the Fleet of Umbar, and they did that simply by the terror they induced in the Corsairs.

That said, I am astonished at how effectively he filmed this essentially unfilmable story. He kept almost all of the plot elements and improved on a few.

The Arwen as warrior bit really wasn’t that outre, and I wonder if Tolkien might not have used it himself had he thought of it. In some of his other writings he mentions that some of the female elves went into combat, notably Galadriel, Arwen’s grandma, who fought to defend her mother’s people at the First Kinslaying, if I remember correctly.

Agree with the complaints about too many “endings” in ROTK, but that was built into the book, where it was not as distracting as in the movie.

Also REALLY wanted to see the Scouring of the Shire.


50 posted on 12/02/2012 1:54:35 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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